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    Smile Burn In Process ?

    I recently purchased a 512 stick of PC2700 by samsung and I notice that "Burning" it in will produce better results. I haven't actually read anywhere on here how long you should burn it in for, what settings to burn it in with, and all the nitty gritty details. I current have it running at 166 after burning it in at 160 for 10 loops of the memory test on Sandra. So now what, can I burn it at 166 and expect to hit 175 or so? Someone needs to detail out this process, with memory timings and sandra settings for each step of the way so it's more clear on what needs to be done to maximize our memory overclocks. Anyone out there feel like writing something up? It would also be helpful to know what multipliers are best for people with unlocked CPU's such as myself. Thanks in advance.
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    Cool

    Burn-in is a myth. There are a couple of reasons why it might work with a CPU (to do with paste flowing under heat) but no realistic reason why it would work with RAM. Don't waste your time.

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    I agree with Meridian.

    I think the whole purpose of burn-in has been lost in recent years. Burn-in is supposed to test hardware to make sure it doesn't fail... it doesn't do anything to improve its ability.

    But if you believe that burn-in will improve your overclock, then just use your computer normally for a few days (play some games, burn some CDs etc.) and then overclock.

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    Well I think you guys might be wrong on this. When I got this ram I right away tried to run it at 200 mhz X 6 to make sure the CPU wasn't the limiting factor. I have been burning it in for 3 days in 10 mhz increments. With my current cooling I can maintain about 40C and reach 1700 mhz with my athlon XP 1800+ (unlocked ofcourse). I also tried this at 2.8 voltage, the system would not even post. I am now currently, as I type this running this thing at 8.5 X 195 multiplier and running totally stable as far as I can tell. Gotta run 3dmark for about 10 loops to satisfy me on that one. Burning in may be a myth to some types of hardware, but I think in this case, I've proved it. I have to say this too, this memory is KICKASS!

    Update, ran 3Dmark through 4 loops of each test and no problems. Thought I would add that I had mushkin memory before this and it had all it could do at stock speed (133) to make it through this benchmark even 1 time. It was not pc2700 however, but I wasn't impressed to say the least.
    Last edited by f0sgateman; 05-17-2002 at 11:42 PM.
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    Re: Burn In Process ?

    Originally posted by f0sgateman
    I current have it running at 166 after burning it in at 160 for 10 loops of the memory test on Sandra. So now what, can I burn it at 166 and expect to hit 175 or so?

    The principle is correct.
    10 loops isn't gonna cut it. You may have to burn-in varying from a number of hours to Weeks. I knew there's no way in hell I could burn-in my Samsung memory in one day and expect to get better result.. cauze I was so impatient. I knew I have to burn-in a lot longer than that.

    Set the Sandra memory burn-in to "High Stress" level and at 100% utilization. Try 1000 loops. If it passes it, try burnin for a day or two. Then try and see if you can OC higher. There's no guarantee and only way is to try it. I'm still burning-in my memory as we speak. It is still early for me to tell my RAM OC has been improved. Time will tell.


    And about the multiplier part, yes, set it to lower multiplier to ensure that you won't run into CPU bottlenecking. Keep the multiplier low and up the FSB for memory OC'ing.

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    Wow! This is the first time hearing any substantial argument for burn-in! Most people just say "it works" without going into much detail. Can you please explain how you do it? Clear steps would be best for these tired eyes.

    I'd like to try this myself and see if I can get my memory past 200MHz.

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    Update: I've been running my memory at 196X8.5 now for a couple of days and so far no problems at all. [OC]_This, maybe this burn in thing is a myth? I only ran the burn in for like maybe 50 loops total with no troubles at all. I've also run 3Dmark repeatedly and not a glitch. I did notice that at higher levels my other cards cannot handle it, and I'm already getting bandwidth = to RDRAM so I'm pretty happy with it. I am mostly concerned with total stability, I can sacrafice a few mhz if I know it will NEVER crash. Going to LAN parties and having an OC'd machine is great, but having it crash is more embarresing then anything else. I'm going to stick with 195X8.5 for a while until I get a watercooling system. Oh yeah, for those out there thinking your ram needs ramsinks, think again. I ran the burn in wizard for 20 loops and touched the ram chips and they were cold to the touch at 2.7V, so the only thing they do is make it look cool.
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