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  1. #46
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    Originally posted by JungleMan
    Agree, Audigy is a better card than the TBSC, IMO Considering both are the same price, I'll take the Audigy...

    And no, nobody would be caught dead using a Creative for sound work...but they wouldn't be caught dead using a Santa Cruz either. Probably something like the stuff Fuzzy has is what they'd be using.
    I never said they would use a Santa Cruz

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    I do not know why some people think that the Santa Cruz is a good card. I bought one to check out what this hype was all about. What I found is that the windows based sounds and MP3 sound pretty good on my Z560s But when I started playing games such as Sof2 and Bf1942, the sound was completely terrible. I reinstalled windows xp, made sure the current drivers updated because this sound didnt not match what people were saying about it. Unfortunatley had the same bad sound. The sound is tinny, dull and very dirty sounding. Audigy and even SBlive blows Santa Crua away as far as game sound quality. I took that crappy card back where it belongs, on the store shelves.

    So if you listen to MP3 only, this is the card for you, and if you have a card like sblive and later versions of it to compare to then dont bother with it because you will be disappointed.

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    Originally posted by Inf
    I do not know why some people think that the Santa Cruz is a good card. I bought one to check out what this hype was all about. What I found is that the windows based sounds and MP3 sound pretty good on my Z560s But when I started playing games such as Sof2 and Bf1942, the sound was completely terrible. I reinstalled windows xp, made sure the current drivers updated because this sound didnt not match what people were saying about it. Unfortunatley had the same bad sound. The sound is tinny, dull and very dirty sounding. Audigy and even SBlive blows Santa Crua away as far as game sound quality. I took that crappy card back where it belongs, on the store shelves.

    So if you listen to MP3 only, this is the card for you, and if you have a card like sblive and later versions of it to compare to then dont bother with it because you will be disappointed.
    There are way to many people that disagree with you on what you just posted. Maybe the card didn't get along well with your system, that happens sometimes. But with my system the card sounds better than both an SBlive and an Audigy. The TBSC must suck because it didn't work in your system.....yeah right.

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    Originally posted by liquidsoul
    But with my system the card sounds better than both an SBlive and an Audigy.
    Jim is a Santa Cruz fan and just picked up two Audigy cards today...can't wait to see his take on it
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    we will see what jimz says.
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    I agree.

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    Of course his testing results won't be as detailed as he'd like since he doesn't really have any games to test the EAX3 with. I think there are some demos on the Audigy CD. Not sure.
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    Come to think of it.....................There are not that many games that use EAXHD which was suppost to be the most incredible thing since grilled cheese let alone support for the new EAX3

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    Originally posted by liquidsoul
    Come to think of it.....................There are not that many games that use EAXHD which was suppost to be the most incredible thing since grilled cheese let alone support for the new EAX3
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but EAX Advanced HD is another name for EAX 3 isn't it?

    I haven't looked into it much, but I do know that GTA3 supports EAX3.
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    Here's some popular games which use EAX3

    http://eax.creative.com/gaming/gameindex.asp
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    Im sure Jimz review will be more comprehensive and talk about non game sound qaulity, but if anyone wants to see an early review

    GamePC Audigy2 Review

    But be sure to look forward to Jimz's since he is good at focusing on non gaming aspects of cards

    I just picked up the Audigy2 msyelf after selling some stuff but I wont have time to imstall it and test it out til closer to the weekend

    As for peopel who already are using the Audigy2 the feedback seems positive so far. There are some folks in the 3DSoundsurge forum that already have the card and are saying the sound difference is noticeable from Audigy 1 to Audigy2. Supposedly Creative went and used the Cirrus logic DACs that are in the SAnta Cruz in an attempt to improve sound quality.

    Sound quailty of non games like a Santa Cruz and Games with EAX 3.0 plus 64 voices? This may end up being a really great sound card! Lets just hope theres not lots of driver problems

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    I don't know. I think I would rather just use a digital out, and let my receiver do the decoding. Regardless if Audigy, TBSC, Etc. Better components in the receiver.
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    SC worked fine in my system. My post didn't say anything about me having problems with it. I am comparing 3 sound cards. Sblive/Audigy/SC.

    By no means I am a creative fan, I know people have driver issues with them. But thats not an excuse to say that SC sounds better if you can not compare the two.

    LIke I said you play mp3's it works great, but the games is another story. Its just terrible comparing to the other cards that I have to compare with. I think people who have problems with their Sblive cards are in denial that they say SC is great because thats the only thing that works in their system or they have low end speakers.

    I might be wrong but if anyone who doesn't have any problems with Sblive or Audigy cards and who had a chance to play with SC on the same system and have decent speakers please reply and share your experience.

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    Originally posted by sopclod
    I wonder if Turtle Beach is even working on a successor yet. It seems like the Santa Cruz has been around for ages (in computer time) but at the same time I've heard absolutely nothing about a new PC sound card from them.
    I read an article, and I've been looking for it, I think I read something on this forum about a successor to the Santa Cruz line. I think it was scheduled for a late 2002/early 2003 release, but when I try and get more information on it, I come up with a lot of dead ends.

    I hope it's true because I want one real bad. Like I said though, the Audigy 2 sounds real nice, and when more people get it, and have VIA boards, I will see if the problems still exist. If not, more power to Creative.

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    Talking

    Ordered my aud2 yesterday.

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