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  1. #16
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    Originally posted by sebvanaaken
    yes i agree, there are a lot of times when the US is asked to step in and, kindly, it does. And yes the US is allowd to defend its own interest as it did/ is doing for the war on terror.

    Iraq comes under neither of these. I have not understood the reason for the attack yet and thus i will not give my support.
    Actually it does, the resolutions ending hostilities did so as long as Iraq disarmed WMD's, they have not, and had continually researched and pursued them. Another thing about those post war resolutions was its unconditional terms to ceasing hostilities, Iraq has been caught in non-compliance from that day forward to present and has been actively seeking to impose terms. The US and it's allies can restart hostilities based on those resolutions alone, 1441 and/or any new resolution is not needed. Being a Former Marine from Desert Storm I would not want nor need support from ANYONE who's sole purpose is to oppose the US, especially seeing how skewed the world is against the US generally, nor would I want it from the mushroom chewing generation in the US, as they have NO idea what they stand for and are continually searching for a "cause".
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    sorry cannot reply now- have to go out
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    Originally posted by Palandri
    [B]This is unbelieveable - now you are drawing a comparision between Adolf Hitler and Hilary Clinton.

    Shame on you for doing that
    The comparison is on their idealistic and philosophical views as it pertains to the collective versus the individual - which are not only comparable, but very much alike - and most scholars agree. On a moral level Hitler was a monster, and in no way shape or form comparable to Clinton - and I would never suggest as much.

    Mordeth
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    Originally posted by Mordeth
    You have hit the nail on the head. But lets call it what it is. It is a socialistic encroachment on our individual rights, expoused by so called "liberals" and hidden in so called "human rights/animal rights/peace groups" etc. It is Communism through and through, and Marx would be proud.

    "The common good comes before the private good."
    -- Nazi slogan (Adolf Hitler)

    "We must stop thinking of the individual and start thinking about what is best for society."
    -- Hillary Clinton
    Nazis were anti-Communism...
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    Originally posted by JungleMan
    Nazis were anti-Communism so Marx would not be "proud" of anything they have to say, nor the Democrats. Use a better comparison.

    Have a nice day.
    It is just a tad more complicated than that. Marxism is in fact communism, in fact Marx wrote the famous book: "The Communist Manifesto", which is really scientific socialism. Now, Nazism is simply national socialism. The National Socialist Party of the early 1900's in Germany accepted much of the same socialistic ideals expounded on by Marx - including mechanically governing all movements of individuals, totalitarian control of the state, elimination of democratic opposition, one party rule and all private organizations of business, labor, and agriculture, as well as education and culture to be subjected to party(government) control and direction.

    Whilst the Nazi's rejected so called "Communism" and accepted "National Socialism", there were still many similarities on systems of government and economic policy(and acceptance of collectivism). The primary(and major) differences come from Nazism's association with Fascism, with its hostility to rationalism, liberalism, and democracy and the belief that they were physically, intellectually and morally superior to other races.

    Mordeth

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    Originally posted by Palandri
    This is unbelieveable - now you are drawing a comparision between Adolf Hitler and Hilary Clinton.

    Shame on you for doing that

    yea, even Adolph doesnt deserve that Palandri. Shame on you indeed!

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    Originally posted by Mordeth
    Hitler was a monster, and in no way shape or form comparable to Clinton - and I would never suggest as much.

    Mordeth
    I beg to differ Mordeth. Hillary is a monster of a different kind. How would you like to married to that? No wonder Bubba was hitting that fat chick. What a awful mental image im getting right now. Damn, time go play BF1942 or something

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    Originally posted by DanteInCali
    Damn, time go play BF1942 or something
    Please do so. I wish we all would...Maybe it would relieve some stress.

    Anyhow..this discussion is degrading very quickly..and now I will lock it and let it fall off the page.

    I'm tired of locking threads people...this has either got to stop or something has to break.

    Namek

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