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    Originally posted by Susquehannock on 01-13-2004 at 06:21 PM
    Some of those '+' values you listed in the post at the
    top of this page are entirely too low.
    They should remain within 5% at the very least.
    (12v = 13.600 - 12.400
    5v = 4.750 - 5.250
    3.3v = 3.465 - 3.135)

    ... just ignore the negative (-) values ....
    That's why I used the dmm -- to verify that mbm was reading lower than the actual voltages, which it was.

    What is running to stress the PSU?

    How many HDD's, Opticals, fans, and lights are running
    during the gaming and Prime95?

    You might want to list all the components again.

    For instance when I tested my PSU, including these
    300w Fortron units this is what was running in
    the Soltek rig listed below:

    1700 dLt3c OverClocked to 2.5ghz (210X12)
    Prime95 & WinAmp playing music from HDD
    1gb pc3200 RAM in DC mode
    Two 7200rpm 40gb HDD's in RAID array
    Two 12" Cold Cathode lights
    One CD/RW burning a CD
    Copy files to Floppy
    Nine fans - three 80x25mm, two 120x38mm,
    one 40mm, one 92x25mm, & two 45x15mm

    I must say, I didn't have nearly that much stuff running, but I would think enough to see if the unit was stable. Let me see if I can remember . . . I think 8 fans in all:
    2 80mm intake fans
    2 80mm exhaust fans
    2 80mm fans built into the PSU
    1 cpu fan
    1 NB fan
    Prime 95 torture test
    1gb Corsair pc3200 RAM in Dual Channel mode
    WD 80gb 7200rpm 8mb buffer HDD
    I don't think my dvd drive was doing anything at the time.
    I know I had at least one or two hardware monitoring programs open, as well as my task manager. Maybe a few IE windows etc. I think that's it. Do you really think more stuff would have a big effect, or that I shouldn't trust these results?
    Thanks for your input.

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Has any one gotten any more info on AGPB PSUs here is a REVIEW of
    their AGPB-P4ATX50F 500W unit which sells for $48 shipped from NewEgg
    It sounds like a good unit, I want to replace a new vantec stealth (PC Toys)470 because it is louder then my dishwasher The AGPB also has a 110 outlet like the vantec which is great for water pumps.
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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Hey guys, I am looking for a new PSU to power my rig:

    • P4 3.2C - running stock
    • Thermalright 947U Heatsink - on the way from SVC
    • ABIT AI7 - on the way from Newegg
    • 2x 512MB CH-5 Winbond Chip PC3200 RAM
    • Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
    • ATI Radeon 128mb 9800 np flashed to pro - Cooled by Arctic Cooler
    • 2x 36GB Ultra 320 10k RPM SCSI HD in Stripped Array (RAID 0)
    • LSI Ultra 320 SCSI Controller Card
    • Leadtek XP2000 TV Card
    • Chenming Aluminum Blue Dragon Case with window
    • LiteOn 52X CDRW
    • LiteOn 8x Dual Format DVDRW
    • Floppy
    • 5x 80mm Case Fans
    • 1x 92mm HSF
    • 1x 120mm Top Blower - after I cut the blow hole on the top
    • 2x UV CCFL
    • 2x UV Blue CCF


    I am pretty much down to two choices:

    TTGI 550W with 14cm Fan
    • I had great experience with TTGI 520SS, it is a well known brand,
    • 14cm fan = lots of cooling with minimal noise (noise reduction is a high priority in this rig).
    • Absolutely smoking price, 69 + 6 = $75 shipped from Directron.com
    • I am worried about the fan adjuster that causes instability of the rails - pointed out in recent power supply round up by Anandtech.com
    • Lack of PFC (less efficient at least thoeratically)
    • Lack of review on this particular PSU unit.


    Fortron 550W with Active PFC and Noise Killer for $85 shipped.
    • Awesome reviews everywhere
    • Active PFC
    • Quiet operation
    • Great price, 79+6 = $85 shipped from Directron.com


    I listed the pro and con of each PSU that I gathered so far, and I wish that the knowledgable you here can help me out by sharing some ideas on the above PSU units.

    It will be best if you can pick one of the two and give a short reason why you picked it .

    Thanks a TON in advance!
    Rig Specs:

    SLK-800 with SF2 + Coolmod
    Soltek SL-75FRN2 RL
    XP 1700+ JIUHB DLT3C (1.5vcore)0310 WMPW
    1x 512MB Kingston HyperX 3500
    ATI Radeon 9800np modded to 9800Pro @ 425/360
    TTGI 520SS PSU
    Lian Li PC-65 Plus
    2x 80GB Maxtor Diamond Plus9 8mb cache HD (Raid 0)
    HP 300i DVD+RW
    Lite-On 48X CDRW

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    I've read a review or two on these PSU's. SVC has em on sale. Seem
    pretty decent for what they are..If ya go to the site, it'll call for a language
    pack. Just click cancel and it'll go right into the site.
    www.seasonic.com/product/pc_atx.jsp
    www.svc.com

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerardjg
    Has any one gotten any more info on AGPB PSUs here is a REVIEW of
    their AGPB-P4ATX50F 500W unit which sells for $48 shipped from NewEgg
    It sounds like a good unit, I want to replace a new vantec stealth (PC Toys)470 because it is louder then my dishwasher The AGPB also has a 110 outlet like the vantec which is great for water pumps.
    I would be wary of that psu for one reason. If you are ont running a server board you will hhave to use the 24 to 20 pin adapter. Using an adapter has the potential for degredation. It is definitely a good price though, and if it sux you could ship it back to Newegg and get a different psu.

    Personally, I just got a Sparkle 530w for $75 from Newegg. It has adjustable pots for the voltages and fans so you can control the dba of the fans, plus it has noisekiller. Very, very solid psu.
    Last edited by brewzer; 05-21-2004 at 04:26 PM.
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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ri3eboi
    Hey guys, I am looking for a new PSU to power my rig:

    • P4 3.2C - running stock
    • Thermalright 947U Heatsink - on the way from SVC
    • ABIT AI7 - on the way from Newegg
    • 2x 512MB CH-5 Winbond Chip PC3200 RAM
    • Turtle Beach Santa Cruz Sound Card
    • ATI Radeon 128mb 9800 np flashed to pro - Cooled by Arctic Cooler
    • 2x 36GB Ultra 320 10k RPM SCSI HD in Stripped Array (RAID 0)
    • LSI Ultra 320 SCSI Controller Card
    • Leadtek XP2000 TV Card
    • Chenming Aluminum Blue Dragon Case with window
    • LiteOn 52X CDRW
    • LiteOn 8x Dual Format DVDRW
    • Floppy
    • 5x 80mm Case Fans
    • 1x 92mm HSF
    • 1x 120mm Top Blower - after I cut the blow hole on the top
    • 2x UV CCFL
    • 2x UV Blue CCF


    I am pretty much down to two choices:

    TTGI 550W with 14cm Fan
    • I had great experience with TTGI 520SS, it is a well known brand,
    • 14cm fan = lots of cooling with minimal noise (noise reduction is a high priority in this rig).
    • Absolutely smoking price, 69 + 6 = $75 shipped from Directron.com
    • I am worried about the fan adjuster that causes instability of the rails - pointed out in recent power supply round up by Anandtech.com
    • Lack of PFC (less efficient at least thoeratically)
    • Lack of review on this particular PSU unit.


    Fortron 550W with Active PFC and Noise Killer for $85 shipped.
    • Awesome reviews everywhere
    • Active PFC
    • Quiet operation
    • Great price, 79+6 = $85 shipped from Directron.com


    I listed the pro and con of each PSU that I gathered so far, and I wish that the knowledgable you here can help me out by sharing some ideas on the above PSU units.

    It will be best if you can pick one of the two and give a short reason why you picked it .

    Thanks a TON in advance!
    I justg received my Sparkle 530w psu from newegg for $76. It is the exact same psu as a Fortron 530w, but it is like $7 less. I would definitely recommend the Sparkle 530w. It has adjustable pots for the voltage and fans so you can control the noise from the fans as well as the voltage. The 550 is a server psu with an adapter for regular boards. Since you will be using the Abit board you will have to use the adapter, which may not cause any problems, but it definitely has the potential to.
    Last edited by brewzer; 05-21-2004 at 10:36 AM.
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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerardjg
    Has any one gotten any more info on AGPB PSUs
    Made by Topower. Other known Topower brands are Tagan, Vantec, and Aerocool. IIRC they tend to be the most well built and reliable at higher wattage levels, but don't quite have the build quality of Fortron or CWT/Antec.

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Hey guys:

    I read that Fortron 550W has a 24 pin connector which isn't for ATX boards... Does anyone know if it comes with a 24pin to 20pin adaptor so I can use it on my Abit AI7? Thanks a lot in advance.
    Rig Specs:

    SLK-800 with SF2 + Coolmod
    Soltek SL-75FRN2 RL
    XP 1700+ JIUHB DLT3C (1.5vcore)0310 WMPW
    1x 512MB Kingston HyperX 3500
    ATI Radeon 9800np modded to 9800Pro @ 425/360
    TTGI 520SS PSU
    Lian Li PC-65 Plus
    2x 80GB Maxtor Diamond Plus9 8mb cache HD (Raid 0)
    HP 300i DVD+RW
    Lite-On 48X CDRW

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by ri3eboi
    Hey guys:

    I read that Fortron 550W has a 24 pin connector which isn't for ATX boards... Does anyone know if it comes with a 24pin to 20pin adaptor so I can use it on my Abit AI7? Thanks a lot in advance.
    Yes, it comes with an adapter. However, IMO, an adapter has the ptoential to cause degredation or fluctuation in the lines so I would go with the 530w. I know the 530 has adjustable pots, but I have no idea if the 550w does.
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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Anyone have any info on the Linkworld PSUs? I picked up a 430W model for +/-$45 (I think) at Fry's in January. No problems yet - 3 ball bearing fan model. (I removed a 300W Enermax (EG301P-VB) from the case I bought and am saving it for any future use that pops up.)

    Their website isn't helpful at all.

    http://www.linkworld8.com/

    Any idea who makes them or performace concerns anyone knows of? Seems to be a decent budget PSU.
    Last edited by Warhawk71; 05-21-2004 at 11:02 PM. Reason: punctuation, model #
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    Best Data 56k Internal Modem
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    Enermax CS3071-S3A Case (removed 1-fan Enermax 300W PSU)
    Linkworld LPG8-43-P4 430W 3-fan PS, (3x) 80 mm case fans

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    most TT psus are awesome and low price too

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Warhawk71
    Anyone have any info on the Linkworld PSUs? I picked up a 430W model for +/-$45 (I think) at Fry's in January. No problems yet - 3 ball bearing fan model. (I removed a 300W Enermax from the case I bought and am saving it for any future use that pops up.)

    Their website isn't helpful at all.

    http://www.linkworld8.com/

    Any idea who makes them or performace concerns anyone knows of. Seems to be a decent budget PSU.
    According to the UL database, Linkworld makes their own PSUs - no idea how good they are.

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Oklahoma Wolf
    According to the UL database, Linkworld makes their own PSUs - no idea how good they are.
    Thanks for checking. Anyone else have experience with them?
    DFI NFII Ultra Infinity Rev. A (Taiwan) 10/15/2003 Bios
    AMD Athlon XP 2500+ w/ stock fan/HS
    1 GB (2x 512 MB) Crucial PC2700 CT 6464Z335.16T
    BFG Asylum GFX 5700 Ultra 128 MB
    WD Caviar SATA 120 GB, Lite-On 16x DVD, Lite-On 52x CD-RW
    Best Data 56k Internal Modem
    On-board audio and Klipsch ProMedia v.2-400
    Enermax CS3071-S3A Case (removed 1-fan Enermax 300W PSU)
    Linkworld LPG8-43-P4 430W 3-fan PS, (3x) 80 mm case fans

    WinXP Pro SP1, nForce 3.48, GeForce 56.72, DX 9.0b

    No overclocking - fast enough for me....for now.

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Warhawk71
    Thanks for checking. Anyone else have experience with them?
    Bump
    DFI NFII Ultra Infinity Rev. A (Taiwan) 10/15/2003 Bios
    AMD Athlon XP 2500+ w/ stock fan/HS
    1 GB (2x 512 MB) Crucial PC2700 CT 6464Z335.16T
    BFG Asylum GFX 5700 Ultra 128 MB
    WD Caviar SATA 120 GB, Lite-On 16x DVD, Lite-On 52x CD-RW
    Best Data 56k Internal Modem
    On-board audio and Klipsch ProMedia v.2-400
    Enermax CS3071-S3A Case (removed 1-fan Enermax 300W PSU)
    Linkworld LPG8-43-P4 430W 3-fan PS, (3x) 80 mm case fans

    WinXP Pro SP1, nForce 3.48, GeForce 56.72, DX 9.0b

    No overclocking - fast enough for me....for now.

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    Re: The PSU Thread

    AGPB, aka eagle lol aka vav lol i sware this company needs to make up its mind, anyway, i used my eagle/agpb PSU until 1 day ago ran 7 months with no problems at all now im usin whats in my sig

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