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  1. #1
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    HELLSPAWN187

    Has any person dealing with this person heard any ting lately and his excuse is he doesnt have a machine to email back cause he has mine that got shipped back to him midway for some odd reason i gave this TROLL a ultimatum and this is what i said

    As of 30 mintutes ago it has been 6 days without word form you and u cant say u dont have a system to email me back beacause u have MINE and as of right now im giving you a ultimatum Eiter u reply in 72 hours thats until monday 8am cst to reply with a email showing your willingness to end this ordeal and if not im calling the district attorney (prosecutor) and filing charges of fraud, international fraud and grand larcany and since its over international lines that's a federal charge and is VERY serious u have not payed back 2 people that i know of that u have promised to pay back and have not replyed in 6 days i have more then help up my end of the bargain and kept in constant contact with you this is how it is This weekend ship 500$ or my system to my Front Door with a tracking number that i can verify WITH your REAL name, address, Identification number, date of birth , and ne other pertenant information like your telephone number ect im sorry this has come to this I'm not this kinda person but u dont lie to me Or dont steal email me back
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    Last edited by tenax; 06-08-2003 at 03:35 PM.

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    yes me and pakman...

    He makes a lot of bs promises and never fulfills them..

    Also we have two addresses so who knows which is his or if those are a friends or whatever.


    btw I think this should be moved to bad traders

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    Nevermind, different guy
    Antec True430 PSU
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    Abit IC7 motherboard
    Intel Pentium 4 2.4c @ 264*12 = 3.17 GHz, mem * 4/5 divider = 210 MHz
    Zalman CNPS-7000 AlCu CPU cooler
    2x256 MB TwinMos/Winbond CH-5 PC3200 DDR RAM, 6-3-2 cas 2, 2.8v (from marmaduke!)
    Gainward GeForce4 Ti4200 128 MB video card @ 290/515
    M-Audio Revolution 7.1 soundcard w/ Klipsch ProMedia 5.1 speakers
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    IDE 1-1 WD 80 GB, 8 MB cache | IDE 1-2 n/a
    IDE 2-1 Sony 16x DVD-ROM | IDE 2-2 Lite-On 52x24x52 CD-RW
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    my heatware

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    he's been banned on this forum already under that username and email addy:rgabby@telus.net. unless he's prowling around under a different name...

    thomas/virtuosity - you've probably already seen my emails to you both.

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    Thumbs down rgabby???

    pakman,...

    YHEM!

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    agreed to it being moved here..and i've said it before..i'll say it again.whomever has been ripped by him should contact the calgary police service if you have not already..if they get the story from 3 different people all about the same guy, it's your best shot at getting your money or goods. i provided the info in the other thread. if you haven't used it, it's time to.

    as per the guidelines of this section, this thread is closed unless there is more useful info to add, in which case contact tigsman or i to have it added rather than posting in the trading post side.

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    Update On Troll

    Mr. Robert gabinet (hellspawn) has "threatend" to resell my PC that i so called rightfully bought about 2 weeks ago. Yet he has not refunded my money and, or sent me my system so heres some specs as well and pics of what u might "see" on other "trading" forums if u do see this Pc call this ****** out and tell evryone that this man IS a troll and this system already belongs to me(virtuosity/david Taylor)

    As for taking care of this troll the National consumer bureau (fraud investigation unit) has this case and is coordinating with the calgary police to return the persons money that hes done buisness with and Get the items purchased as a show of good faith im compiling a printout of all the emails between him and me and sending them off in printed form to FIU and then one copy to the calgary mountys if u Have been trolled by this person please email me a zip of the following item:

    All email between this troll and you
    any Money order copys credit card recipts ect (photo copy with number scratched out is best)
    And or a inventory of the trolled items and or money any ways heres the images and specs








    Specs are as follows


    Gigabyte GA-7VAX kt400 Mobo
    Amd Athlon XP 1600+ Processor (AGOIA stepping)
    MSI GeForce 4 Ti4200 128mb Video card
    Twinmos PC 3200 (2x256) sticks
    Maxtor 60 GB HD (new)
    Enermax 350 Power supply
    LG Combo CDRW/DVD
    Logitech Elite cordless duo (keyboard & optical mouse)
    Volcano 7+ /w speed select
    Plus case, and case mods and a bunch of case modding supplies



    Also my email is Virtuosity(at)new.rr.com
    Last edited by ViRtu0Sity; 06-05-2003 at 02:24 AM.

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    holy **** .. is this hellspawn by any chance the guy who barked in the forum asking about cleaning his reputation like a month ago ..??

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    same guy yet i defened him i guess its time for a good ole justice *** kicking

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    I am sorry to hear about your misfortune ViRtu0Sity. I do hope you get your money or your product in the end.

    There is a lesson to be learned here though. I have seen this a hundred times now. More often that not once a TROLL always a TROLL.

    They do not just come back from the dark side overnight. Here is a tip. If you see them on the List at Trollhunters or on the Bad Traders List, STAY AWAY from them at all costs. Even if they want to ship first you never know what to expect in the end, better to just deal with an honest person and sleep better at night.

    Again good luck to you ViRtu0Sity.

    Cr@zy

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    SHHHHH.....be wery, wery quiet, I'm hunting twolls.........

    As a system security analyst, I have some Gov't contracts with TRW, as well as some other "known" places. I do data encryption and virus binary decoding for these guys. Lately I have brought the subject matter of "trolls" to a "co-worker" who is in the "law enforcement/protection" area of one of the places I do work for, and he blatantly said if the person were within the hemisphere of the US Gov't people from offices can be sent from local/field offices to investigate discrepencies in the law. Basically I believe he was trying to say,"let me know a location, name, and problem, and we'll send a field official out with local authorities and check out the problem".

    After explaining that some of these people are scamming us out of either cold hard $$, or hardware worth cold hard $$, he grouped it in with embezzlement, theft, mail fraud, and identity theft (for those who are utilizing other people's hard worked for heatware accounts, and references). He did say that this was a problem he was not aware of (hardware forums that have trading/selling area's), but he would be speaking to his superiors about the problem to find an enforcement solution, and/or an general tel# we could call as a hotline/tip line for those who are practicing "trolling".

    As for those "outside" the US Gov'ts area of enforcement, he said not to worry, Canadian Law Enforcement Official's have always helped and cross trained with the US offices that "across the border cooperation is not unheard of".

    So beware Twolls....we are getting cwoser to a sowution.....hehehehehe.......

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    Originally posted by dbuck1031
    SHHHHH.....be wery, wery quiet, I'm hunting twolls.........

    As a system security analyst, I have some Gov't contracts with TRW, as well as some other "known" places. I do data encryption and virus binary decoding for these guys. Lately I have brought the subject matter of "trolls" to a "co-worker" who is in the "law enforcement/protection" area of one of the places I do work for, and he blatantly said if the person were within the hemisphere of the US Gov't people from offices can be sent from local/field offices to investigate discrepencies in the law. Basically I believe he was trying to say,"let me know a location, name, and problem, and we'll send a field official out with local authorities and check out the problem".

    After explaining that some of these people are scamming us out of either cold hard $$, or hardware worth cold hard $$, he grouped it in with embezzlement, theft, mail fraud, and identity theft (for those who are utilizing other people's hard worked for heatware accounts, and references). He did say that this was a problem he was not aware of (hardware forums that have trading/selling area's), but he would be speaking to his superiors about the problem to find an enforcement solution, and/or an general tel# we could call as a hotline/tip line for those who are practicing "trolling".

    As for those "outside" the US Gov'ts area of enforcement, he said not to worry, Canadian Law Enforcement Official's have always helped and cross trained with the US offices that "across the border cooperation is not unheard of".

    So beware Twolls....we are getting cwoser to a sowution.....hehehehehe.......
    hmm --- very cool
    i assume your friend is pretty high up if he can actually get services going like that..
    Good stuff, keep it goin


    Good luck virtuosity damn trolls.

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    David,

    you might want to have tenax or tigs put this in the bad trader section...

    good work. I've already contacted and the calgary police about my case and have filed a report with my local police who are in contact with their Calgary counterparts.

    Tenax had been nice enough to fwd some links to this guys criminal activities on other websites he's hounded up. In one, he was accused in April by a local Calgary PC store of trying to sell "stolen goods". I don't have the full details on this, but you can find the thread here.

    http://forum.lanageddon.com/index.ph...5&t=1298&st=0&

    (you may need to register with that forum to view that thread...)

    This guy needs to be shut down asap!

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    He's actually an ASAC (Assistant Senior Agent in Charge) of a regional FBI office. We did some network upgrades and port scanning/security tests for their office when this was brought up. I also told him about www.trollhunters.com, and it was mentioneed that he would personally look into this, and/or have one of his more net/computer savvy counterparts look into it. Basically he said if people were getting ripped off, they needed to beware.

    It was also mentioned that scam artists and con men have made the internet the "wiseguy" of the computer age, and that gov't offices are becoming more aware of crime being commited "behind closed doors" so to speak, over the net. He said some/most people never report "I-Crime" (Internet Crime), due to the fact that they believe nothing can or will be done.

    Now we did get into the "big-brother" debate, and I admitted to having some pirated software, what he told me was actually shocking. "Software piracy and music piracy is going to happen, no matter what. We do not look at the person who copied a buddies pc game because he really liked it, we are looking for the individuls who are reproducing MASS quantities of bootleg items and reselling at flea markets, conventions, and other out of the way places." I mentioned that I didn't want the Gov't looking into everything I look at online, what sites I may browse, basically I thought it was wrong to "track" someone's internet usage. He responded that he agrees, that we have personal freedom's that should not be infringed upon, HOWEVER, when you KNOW a junkie/hooker/thief by sight on the street, you keep an eye on them. He said that registered sex offenders, child pornographers, identity thieves, and the like were put under scrutiny, but the casual home user, even hacker, if doing nothing illegal, has little/nothing to worry about from "big-brother".

    As for future "Troll" crimes, well, let's just say they are going to be looking into the matter. So, as I said before, Trolls had better start hiding back under their bridges....

    P.S. Tenax, if you read this, I didn't have time to PM you about it, but I did let him know that you may/may not be interested in setting up some type of e-mail/phone correspondence to get the ball rolling. I told him about our little PM session, and he said it sounded like you knew what needed to be done, but may want some outside help as to how and when it gets done. Thanx to Tenax and all the others who not only protect us from Trolls, but also from ourselves when dealing with potential Trolls.
    Last edited by dbuck1031; 06-05-2003 at 05:22 PM.

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    David,

    can you email contact information on that nat'l consumer bureau as it will probably help that I also file my complaint with them as well.

    rgds,

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