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  1. #46
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    Originally posted by tristeno
    Update.
    A friend tested both memory at a Abit IC7 mb and had the same results! DIMM recognized as DDR333 with AIDA, and crapping at the early 200's FSB (even worse than mine). Didn't pass mem test at over 200fsb frequencies. I will have them back on Friday, just to RMA them and I will take pictures and post AIDA results.
    I will also try a mem test (which I didn't do the first time- I was very frustrated!) and see what happens. I am even thinking of removing the heat spreader of one dimm just to see whats underneath!!
    It's definitely RMA time.
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  2. #47
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    Here is the link to the pictures I have taken of my memory. Any comments?
    http://users.in.gr/ndaskas/page_GREEK_1.htm

    I have included a high resolution pict should you want to see any more details.
    I looks much like the original to me, but after my friend testing it on an Intel platform I have no doubt that the problems are memory related and not motherboard.
    ASUS P4P800
    P4 2.6@3.6
    Thermalright SP-94
    Mushkin DDR3500 Level II
    PSU: Q-TEC 550W
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  3. #48
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    That stick looks authentic. I don't know how prevalent the practice is, but any retailer could easily swap the sticker on a module of PC3500 with a sticker that came from a PC2700 module. This goes for all RAM too, not just OCZ. That's what might have happened. In any case, you need to get it replaced ASAP.
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  4. #49
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    thanks tritium for the support!
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    PSU: Q-TEC 550W
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  5. #50
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    One of the biggest misconceptions is that OCSYSTEMS memory is OCZ memory...and as we all know OCSYSTEMS is a company of thieves...

    OCZ IS NOT OCSYSTEMS....remember that!

    "AAaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!"
    - Sen. Howard "Chucky" Dean (New Wack-Job Chairman of the DNC)
    "Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, 'Thank God, I'm still alive.' But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again."
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  6. #51
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    Originally posted by FrizzleFried
    One of the biggest misconceptions is that OCSYSTEMS memory is OCZ memory...and as we all know OCSYSTEMS is a company of thieves...

    OCZ IS NOT OCSYSTEMS....remember that!
    Thanks for stating that. I've been saying that for what seems like ages and people still don't seem to understand.
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  7. #52
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    Hey Guys,

    This is Bhulinder from OCZ Technology. I just wanted to first post here and let you guys know I am here in case you have any questions or concerns, and are free to e-mail me at bhulinder@ocztechnology.com.

    In regards to the memory Tristen has, the problem with the SPD most likely arose from the module either not being programmed or being misprogrammed. The possible reason the FSB was set to 166 and asynched the memory to 200 is because you could have a 166FSB processor, but the BIOS recognized the memory as DDR400, which is the farthest auto setting the motherboard would be allowed to auto set at because it is the latest industry standard released by JEDEC. Programming of the module is an after build and after test process that puts information about the memory into an EEPROM chip. The BIOS and third party programs such as AIDA32, SiSoft Sandra, and CPUZ read this information and provide the information to you. Most of the SPD just holds information about the module. Can you e-mail me the details of who you bought the product from, and when, so I may be able to track the problem and get things fixed up for you. As for the compatibility side, I will talk to our tech support guy on Monday and find out if he has any information in our database about the motherboard you have.

    Our PC3200 and PC3500, should be recognized as PC3200 in AIDA32, and their respective speed ( 3200/3500 in CPUZ ). This is resultant of how each program reads the EEPROM. Some parts of the SPD are programmed to the JEDEC specification for DDR400 as this is the newest industry standard release information JEDEC has provided, other parts are programmed with our part number and the speed the product has been tested for. By the looks of the picture you provided, you have one of our older modules which don't have our part number programmed into them, as AIDA32 would show with our newer products. Thanks for your time.

  8. #53
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    Thanks for the update. For some reason, Cpu-Z isn't reading the SPD info, while AIDA32 isn't having any problems. BTW, I'm using a single 512MB stick of OCZ PC3500 EL on an Abit NF7-S Rev 2.0 motherboard.
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  9. #54
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    I am impressed...the guy came over and explained the situation...not many companies would do such a thing...

    "AAaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh!!!!"
    - Sen. Howard "Chucky" Dean (New Wack-Job Chairman of the DNC)
    "Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, 'Thank God, I'm still alive.' But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again."
    - Sen. Barbara Boxer (Ultra Socialist Twit from CA)

  10. #55
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    Originally posted by FrizzleFried
    I am impressed...the guy came over and explained the situation...not many companies would do such a thing...
    Thats why all of us were saying they have the best tech support around

  11. #56
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    "This is resultant of how each program reads the EEPROM. Some parts of the SPD are programmed to the JEDEC specification for DDR400"
    it seems though that this specific module was programmed as ddr333 and i can't explain why a module running at ddr433 was programmed like this while older ddr400 memory are recognised as ddr400.
    I believe that everything will come to a happy end with the only problem being a delay in setting up my new system.
    ASUS P4P800
    P4 2.6@3.6
    Thermalright SP-94
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  12. #57
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    ok this is waht aida 32 says for me :
    [ 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
    Module Type Unbuffered
    Memory Type DDR SDRAM
    Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz)
    Module Width 64 bit
    Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
    Error Detection Method None
    Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
    Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (4.6 ns @ 217 MHz)
    2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)

    Memory Module Features:
    Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
    Auto-Precharge Not Supported
    Precharge All Not Supported
    Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
    Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
    Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Differential Clock Input Supported
    Redundant Row Address Not Supported


    this is supposidly ocz 3500 EL....can any one verify that it really is????

  13. #58
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    ok this is waht aida 32 says for me :
    [ 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
    Module Type Unbuffered
    Memory Type DDR SDRAM
    Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz)
    Module Width 64 bit
    Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
    Error Detection Method None
    Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
    Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (4.6 ns @ 217 MHz)
    2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)

    Memory Module Features:
    Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
    Auto-Precharge Not Supported
    Precharge All Not Supported
    Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
    Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
    Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Differential Clock Input Supported
    Redundant Row Address Not Supported


    this is supposidly ocz 3500 EL....can any one verify that it really is????

  14. #59
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    Originally posted by boardsportsrule
    ok this is waht aida 32 says for me :
    [ 256 MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM ]

    Memory Module Properties:
    Module Size 256 MB (1 rows, 4 banks)
    Module Type Unbuffered
    Memory Type DDR SDRAM
    Memory Speed PC2700 (166 MHz)
    Module Width 64 bit
    Module Voltage SSTL 2.5
    Error Detection Method None
    Refresh Rate Reduced (7.8 us), Self-Refresh
    Highest CAS Latency 2.5 (4.6 ns @ 217 MHz)
    2nd Highest CAS Latency 2.0 (5.0 ns @ 200 MHz)

    Memory Module Features:
    Early RAS# Precharge Not Supported
    Auto-Precharge Not Supported
    Precharge All Not Supported
    Write1/Read Burst Not Supported
    Buffered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    Registered Address/Control Inputs Not Supported
    On-Card PLL (Clock) Not Supported
    Buffered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Registered DQMB Inputs Not Supported
    Differential Clock Input Supported
    Redundant Row Address Not Supported


    this is supposidly ocz 3500 EL....can any one verify that it really is????
    this is 2700 memory?1 my 3500 appears as 3200 mem but has the right name....ie the cas latency and highest only show the 200 and 166 bus
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  15. #60
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    so it isnt ocz 3500 EL...it runs at 217 with the advertised timings now but if its 2700 oc'd that hight i am sure it wont go much higher.....should i cut and paste that aida32 and send it to ocz....

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