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  1. #31
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    Do you really need more than 36 gigs for a drive that really shouldn't contain more than the O/S and apps?

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    Originally posted by BWM
    Do you really need more than 36 gigs for a drive that really shouldn't contain more than the O/S and apps?
    good point BWM...

    Anyways, I went ahead and made the WD1600JB my primary HDD and put the Maxtor as slave (data/backup). I do have to admit, notwithstanding that slight WD whine, the seek is so quiet compared to clanky maxtor... (meanwhile, will try to train my ears to block out the whine..., lemme get my gf to scream/nag at me for weekend)

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    Originally posted by pakman
    (meanwhile, will try to train my ears to block out the whine..., lemme get my gf to scream/nag at me for weekend)
    I think I'd rather take the HD whining

    At least it won't follow me out of the pooter room

  4. #34
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    Originally posted by pakman
    well the drive passed the diag tests but the high pitch whine continues... might just return it to compusa... found this tidbit in the western digital support site. [tidbit snipped]
    For reference, the WD article can be found here. The reason I searched for it is that I have a WD1000BB drive that has recently started whining, and it is driving me nuts. So far it seems to work fine, but I want to RMA it anyway.

    I would definitely return that WD1200JB.

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    always my luck... now the maxtor appears to be acting up... locked up while transferring some DVD files this evening.. As the WD whine is borderline bearable, I'm going to hold on to it for the time being until I get this maxtor problem sorted. Fortunately that's still under warranty. and its comforting to know the WD special edition has a 3 yr warranty...

  6. #36
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    ARGH! I just got a new WD1200JB and it has a freak nasty whine and loud clicking.

    For perspective, I had a perfectly working WD800JB which was dead silent. My computer was dead silent as well. When I put it into sleep mode I couldn't tell different in "whine" with it off. That's how quiet it was.

    This sucks. I don't know if I should return for exchange or to get a new drive,
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  7. #37
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    I got a new WD1200JB from newegg, and the whine is loud an unbearable.

    For perspective, my old WD800JB which is months older, is SOO much quieter, I can't even hear it.

    BTW, my computer is quiet and I'd like to keep it that way.

    So, I'm probably gonna exchange it, and if the replacement is loud, then.....screw WD!!!
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  8. #38
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    Imagine my previous suffering... I had four 7,200-RPM Western Digital ball-bearing drives! One WD1200JB, one WD2000JB, and two WD1000BB drives. Awful!

    I sent the two WD1000BB drives back to NewEgg about a week ago. They may just offer me the "current market value" of those drives, which is (I guess) roughly $50 each. That's fine with me; I'll buy one Seagate drive, and although I'll have one fewer drives than before, maybe I'll escape with my sanity.

    The WD2000JB and WD1200JB are annoying, too, but nowhere near as bad as my WD1000BB drives were. I can't afford to RMA those drives, too. I will probably just buy a couple Smart Drive enclosures, and chalk it off as a bad experience.

    I said the same thing--SCREW WESTERN DIGITAL. They know that FDB drives are much quieter, and yet they didn't switch to them, while every other drive maker did. Live and learn.

  9. #39
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    Originally posted by Halide
    So, I'm probably gonna exchange it, and if the replacement is loud, then.....screw WD!!!
    The thing with these ball-bearing WD drives is that they may sound fine at first, but they will get louder after a period of normal use. My WD1000BB drives were fine until they had been used for about a year--and at that point, one of them started whining REALLY bad, and the other one was "bad enough". Both worked 100% fine, though. So, I'd very strongly recommend getting a different make and model drive. I'd go with a Seagate myself; check this reference for more info (it may not be 100% timely, but it's still a good reference).

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    Thanks for the info... I definately don't want my drive to start whining after a year or 2.

    I'm going to exchange(refund) and get the seagate 120gb version...oh well. Have to pay the fees 'cause i made a bad decision... I know the seagate is slightly slower with 2 mb cache..but I'm sure it's a worthy tradeoff for the silence
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  11. #41
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    Oh now, they have a new model with 8MB cache for the same price!!

    What was I thinking!!!!!!!!

    Oh well, I lost time and $16 restocking fee...but I hope it will be super quiet
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  12. #42
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    wow this is strange... the noise is much softer when sitting on carpet...

    but wtf?

    I didn't mount it differently than the other drive which never made the whine.

    there has to be something wrong with its balance ??
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  13. #43
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    What are you talking about? You removed the whiny drive, and it seemed quieter outside the case? That's to be expected; I noticed the same thing.

    I think that's because in the case, the sound resonates, and is amplified by virtue of the fact that the hard drive is bolted to the steel of the case. This is OK, in light of the fact that when you isolate the drive from the case (such as with one of those "rubber band" hard drive mounts), you make it run significantly hotter. The same thing happens with the "reduced noise" hard drive enclosures; that's why heat buildup is such an issue with them.

    The solution, then, is to get a quiet hard drive, like a Seagate Barracuda, and mount it normally--and not to get a piece of crap drive, like a Western Digital, and bend over backward trying to keep it quiet.

    So no, it's not a balance issue. No drive should be that touchy anyway. It's crap; get rid of it.

  14. #44
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    ok, I am returning to Newegg for a refund.

    I will get the Barracuda 7 series whenever they get in stock ...(hopefully when i get my refund)
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    I had a noisy120 wd too and it was on a ide controller, I now run three wd 120 in raid zero on highpoint and they are not bad at all, they only clunk when turned off.Getting one more wd 120 for raid 0+1 or four disk raid zero. In a raid for some reason they are not very noisy-my guess is they are not working as hard-which should make them last longer-I have a maxtor on the ide and that is not noisy-its only a 5400 rpm drive ,but it is nice. I had a seagate long time ago and like it-Next time maybe go with them. That rafter 10,000 rpm sounds like a nightmare with no hard drive space, but it must be fast

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