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  1. #76
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    Originally posted by nameless
    Speaking of FDB, does anyone know if WD has any plans to begin using it? Or have they?
    WD's model numbering system suggests that there are, but I've never seen one yet.

    http://www.westerndigital.com/en/lib...001028-005.pdf

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    Red face

    Well I just got stuck with a real lemon, a three platter wd 120 se-its brand new not refurbished-this should make the most noise, I am going to put it on ide master and see what lovely sounds it makes , the last time I did this a Wd made plenty of noise-a two platter version , clicking on and off all the time when I put the wd on the highpoint raid-it stopped,but this is not the grinding niose your talking about-I always thought that ball bearings were very good and last a long time-look at fans-all the good fans have them-some have newer tech-but does this make them better-I am not sure, my quantums 7200 AS were some of the first drives with fluid bearing and I still like them-my backup drives-they still work perfect after four years and are not noisy. But so far the three disks I am running in a raid zero-are not making any niosy bad grinding sound, I hope they do not wake up one day and start grinding away I am just glad the lights are back on because this is not a problem-at least right now-and I am running three wd at a time should make a lot of niose-they donot.

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    OK, so I got the new 120gb sata seagate cuda 7.

    First impression - WOW silent..

    then i notice the seek noises are loud as hell


    WHY me!!

    I think I'd rather have a whiny drive rather than a clicky one.

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    Talking

    I notice you are only ruuning 512mb of memory,you should have a gig of memory-less hard drive usage.Maybe buy a hard drive cooler to bury some noise, some extra cooling could not hurt either. Don't feel bad, a bad feel is when you have to rma a drive.

  5. #80
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    512 is all i want and need

    im talking about any type of harddrive usage is audible

    click click like old computers
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    well just a little update...

    I got my seagate 160gb 7200.7 today and its absolutely silent. Idle noise is non existent compared to the WD. And this is in a shuttle xpc case with case fans running dead silent and passive cooled vid card. I'm never going back to WD. Even compared to my Maxtor +9 set with acoustic mgt at quiet, the Seagate is quieter. (edit: FYI seagate seek/write noise is on par with the maxtor with the quiet setting)

    now who wants to buy my WD160gb?

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    where is the quiet setting, lol
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    I just rma'd my brand new wd120gig special edition back to western digital. It just died after one day. Stopped posting in bios and everything. WD's rma process is pretty painless and they did an advanced replacement. Now the new drive works but I keep hearing this loud clicking every now and then from the drive. Should I rma this one also? The sound is making me nervous. Any one else have this happening with their special editions?
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    Well, I just got a Maxtor 200GB DM9+... Impressed so far.

    As for clicking... Didn't happen with a JB drive (or a WD at all, for that matter) but I had a 9.3GB HDD in a Compaq crap out on me once. I was playing Starcraft, then it sounded like a needle was hitting a scratch in a disk. It sounded like the needle was bouncing... The thing died later that day. So yeah, I'd RMA it and ask em to pay shipping. If #3 dies, buy a MAxtor or Seagate.
    Last edited by Atheist; 08-19-2003 at 12:30 AM.



  10. #85
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    Originally posted by Halide
    OK, so I got the new 120gb sata seagate cuda 7.

    First impression - WOW silent..

    then i notice the seek noises are loud as hell

    WHY me!!

    I think I'd rather have a whiny drive rather than a clicky one.

    REALLY? Wow, I am surprised. I am sorry you're having such a bad time with hard drives.

    And aren't they crap? I was just sitting here thinking what a total pain in the neck they are. Last night, my "old" Maxtor 100-GB 536DX--which I only threw in while my whiny WD1000BB's were being RMA'd--decided to make WinXP freeze up. And after that happened, I realized that this drive was the cause of all the freeze-ups I'd suffered through with my former system--and NOT realized it (I'd always thought it was a bad board). How aggravating is that? Now, WD's utility says that Maxtor drive is bad, IBM's utility says it's bad, my S.M.A.R.T. utility says it is "pre-failure", Windows freezes up, but--what a surprise--Maxtor's crappy PowerMax utility says the drive is 100% fine.

    So, I'm sitting here wondering which hard drive manufacturer I didn't hate, and I'm coming up blank. They've all aggravated me, from IBM's awful 75GXP experience, to Maxtor's multiple failures, to WD's bizarre behavior and whiny aggravation.

    But I can honestly say that normal seek noise would be much less bothersome to me than a whine. If you feel the opposite, your drive must not have been as bad as mine was!

  11. #86
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    Well, I heard about AAM and setting quiet seek settings, but I also searched and found the 7200.7 drives no longer support AAM (acoustic management). I had no idea that the seagate drive would be 10 times louder than the WD JB drive. My old 80gb WD JB drive had a very faint whine, very high pitch, and easy to ignore. But, loud clicking/grinding noises are sooo annoying to me. I would hate to have to return the drive just because of it...There is absolutely NO whine at all. If I put my ear ON the seagate drive, I hear a slight hum, which is actually soothing
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    10x louder than a WD?? wow... must have gotten a bad seagate. mine is as quiet as the WD in seek/writing without the annoying whine... I'm the opposite, high pitch noises drive me nuts...


    slightly off topic, what is up with Western Digital's RMA service? I requested the advance replacement RMA, got confirmation email awhile ago, and I'm still waiting over 1 week for the new drive to arrive. maxtor sent me rma replacements in 2-3 days!

  13. #88
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    Well, for starters... My computer fans are very slow and everything else idling on my computer is almost silent. So, maybe it's just my imagination. But, the grinding noise after I login is very loud. The fast seeks should not be that loud IMO. I know really old maxtor drives that sound somewhat clunky, but I expected a softer tone to the seagate.
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    Originally posted by nameless
    Last night, my "old" Maxtor 100-GB 536DX--which I only threw in while my whiny WD1000BB's were being RMA'd--decided to make WinXP freeze up. So, I'm sitting here wondering which hard drive manufacturer I didn't hate, and I'm coming up blank.
    Well, my opinion of Maxtor just skyrocketed. For the RMA of my two-year-old 100-GB drive, they gave me a new 160-GB drive! How cool is that?

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    agreed, maxtor rma service is top notch. meanwhile, after nearly 10 days, I had to remind Western Digital that I was expecting the express rma HDD and THEN they finally ship it after my complaint... maxtor had sent me a replacement drive in immediately (shipped in 3 days) after I filed my rma. whereas WD has sent it by snail UPS which is taking over a week from CA to WA!

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