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  1. #1
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    Talking Interesting SATA Opinion Needed!!!!

    As you can see from my signature I have 3 hard drives. One is an IDE WD Caviar 40 GB and the other two are Serial ATA drives. What I would like is an opinion, or to come to some consensus after reading multiple opinions.....

    Which of these options should I choose in order for the fastest gaming/benchmarking performance

    A. Leave my install of WinXP Pro as it is on the 40 GB Drive with multiple applications installed and just use Disc Wizard to move it onto the SATA drives. (this has worked for me, but I'm not sure if it's the best)

    B. Install WinXP fresh on the IDE drive and then use Disc Wizard move it to the first SATA drive and then install applications on one of the other drives (I've partitioned it into 4 drives of equal size for now)

    AND (thanks for your patience and/or answers) if I do either of those what would be the fastest partitioning setup for all three drives? Mind you, I'd like to just keep using the IDE drive with a running OS just as a backup and I'm willing to format and repartition.
    Should I make a small partition for Windows- and if so how big?
    How many partitions should I have on 2 SATA 120 GB drives for fast performance etc. Feel free to be as specific in your answers as possible, NTFS 16 or 32 etc, striped or mirrored etc....
    Please show me the speediest path...
    Keep in mind I have my comp running smooth and fast now, I'm not big into storage devices and I want to know more, MUCH MORE!!!!
    Please don't refer me to sticky links because I've read most of them and I want specific opinions about my specific hardware. Basically, what would you do if you had my same setup.

    And as a side note, I have a Hercules Game theater XP sitting around and I was wondering if installing it would be an improvement over onboard sound in gaming/benchmarking performance or if I'd be better off conserving power.
    Last edited by *Frankenchrist*; 07-24-2003 at 01:53 AM.
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    Welcome *Frankenchrist*,
    Since this is pretty much a Drive only question, I will copy it into the Storage Forum to get more opinions.

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    BuMP!
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    Did you see your reply at Asus?

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    Sorry SP, I should have probably responded to this one since you moved it.

    Let me paste it here:

    Hmmm.best configuration for gaming/benchmark.

    Do a fresh install of XP on SATA RAID. Use the 40GB for important data.
    Try a cluster size of 32 or 64, but if you don't like your benchmarks go to default of 16.

    Set partitions to your personal preference. It would be better for you to experiment with differnet partitions. Some people hate partitions and others partition everything.

    Striping or mirroring? Using the onboard Sil controller you will have a choice of either. If you use striping (in this case RAID 0), the set will be treated as a single drive (120GBX2=240GB). If you mirror (in this case RAID 1), the set will be treated as a single 120GB drive but will backup data.

    For overall performance and data capacity, RAID 0 might be your preference. Just back up important data.

    Add: I hope this helps, it may seem vague, but RAID 0 will likely be your performance preference. Cluster size will depend on the files you use. Most people will just keep to 16 but you may see better performance at 32 or 64 at the cost of lower benchmarks. I have found NTFS and FAT32 to perform similar with this controller, but slightly better with FAT32.
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    Thanks for the reply!
    How much of a difference between NTFS & FAT32?
    AND- What's YOUR choice if this was your machine?
    I'm not lettin' ya off that easy!
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    IMHO, the slight (arguable) increase in performance with FAT does not negate the obvious stability and security benefits of NTFS.

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    lol...ok

    I use NTFS, but not because of performance issues, but for security and sharing.

    I have seen slightly higher scores with Fat32 especially with the ICH5 chipset, but these are benchmarks from a new install with Asus A7N8X-D, 2500+, 2X512 Corsair 3200LL, 2X Raptors (RAID 0), WD 120GB for backup and storage.







    The first one is NTFS and the second one is FAT32 on same system doing clean installs. I saw slightly higher scores on FAT32 with .29 & .33 drivers and similar with NTFS. These are default 16K cluster.

    EDIT}}}}}Sorry rdgrimes I posted in between yours.

    Performance is similar, though if you are only a gamer you may not care for using NTFS. If not sure, try both and see which file system you prefer.
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    Thanks, Tony!
    I also live in Seattle....
    Where do ya shop for parts?
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    It depends.

    I order many things online. Usually newegg.

    I do sometimes shop locally. I try to support the small local shops some. More expensive items, specialty products and sales tax make online shopping more practical sometimes.

    Compucare, Computerstop, Compusave, Fun-key, etc...

    Alot of Mom and Pop shops out here, very competitive.

    Most of those shops will price match with the other local shops (not online web sites), so if you find one you like, you can usually stick with dealing with just one. If you go to Bellevue, you can check out many shops all a short distance apart.
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    Bump?
    Sata? Soundcard...Anyone?
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    Not sure what you are asking.

    For sound card it would depend on use. Try onboard sound first if not an audiophile.
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    Bump!
    You guys still haven't told me what you'd do with my setup...
    Really all I'm lookin' for is an opinion and I'm gonna try it out and see how it works...then I'll try someone else's opinion...I'm persistent and patient like that- But that's just me, that's how I roll...
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    Yeah, more or less how you would partition the three hard drives for best performance/stability? I realized that Tony answered my question, but that's essentially what I'm doing now already. I was hoping for other opinions.
    Last edited by *Frankenchrist*; 07-31-2003 at 11:34 PM.
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