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  1. #1
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    Geil Golden Dragon or Geil Ultra pc3200

    Geil 2*256 pc3200 Golden Dragon


    or


    Geil 2*256 pc3200 Ultra ( no UltraPlatinum )



    as to buy being the same price, more or less



    thx

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    Get 2 x 256 Twinmos PC3200 with WInbonc chips
    Golf is a good walk spoiled! ( Mark Twain )

    Abit NF7-S rev2 Barton Mobile 2500+ IQZFA 0349RPMW 11 x 210 1.8 Vcore
    w SLK900A & 92mm, 56 cfm fan 32/42C
    2 x WD400JD--Gainward Ti4200 8x AGP
    Buffalo PC3700 Winbond BH5 2 x 256 11-2-2 at cas 2.0--2.8 V
    Lite-On CD-RW / 600 watt dual fan power supply
    Win XP Pro--SP1--nVidia 3.13--NEC 19" LCD

    Abit NF7-S rev 2.0 Barton Mobile 2600+
    AQYHA0346XPMW 11.5 x 220 = 2535.7 MHz 1.725 Vcore
    SLK900A with 92mm 56 CFM fan 34/42C
    Gainward FX5200 128 Mb DDR
    2 x 40 Gb Maxtor ATA 133 drives
    Twinmos PC3700 2 x 256 4.3ns chips 11-3-3 cas 2.0--2.9v
    650 watt dual fan power supply
    WinXP Pro, SP1, nVidia 3.13

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    I haven't tried the Geil Golden Dragon yet, but I did get the opportunity to test the Geil PC3200 ULD Dual DDR Kit. I could obtain the highest fsb w/ it. It ran 230fsb w/ 5-3-2-2.0 timings.
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 (230*10.5)
    Thermaltake Crystal Orb on NB, stock heatsink on SB
    Athlon 2500+ @ 2.415
    Thermalright SLK900U w/ AS3 and 92mm YS Tech
    Palit Daytona Geforce 4 Ti4200 8X @ 290/575
    512mb(256mbX2) Twinmos w/ Winbond CH-5 11-2-2-2.0 DC
    WD 40G ATA100 8MB cache
    Cheiftec Case Antec True 430w PS
    52x24x52 MSI Dragon CDRW
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    Thanks


    Geil PC3200 ULD, is the same that, Geil PC3200 Ultra ???

    as it is the difference?


    ULD is ready for dual channel ¿?....different chip ¿?



    http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=18

    http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=10

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    Geil does not fair so well with all motherboards.

    Just hit the search button at the top and enter "Geil".



    TwinMos Memory

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    ULD mean Ultra Low Density. It comes in a dual channel kit at newegg.com for 99.00 plus 4.00 for shipping
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 (230*10.5)
    Thermaltake Crystal Orb on NB, stock heatsink on SB
    Athlon 2500+ @ 2.415
    Thermalright SLK900U w/ AS3 and 92mm YS Tech
    Palit Daytona Geforce 4 Ti4200 8X @ 290/575
    512mb(256mbX2) Twinmos w/ Winbond CH-5 11-2-2-2.0 DC
    WD 40G ATA100 8MB cache
    Cheiftec Case Antec True 430w PS
    52x24x52 MSI Dragon CDRW
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    thanks


    thanks,


    i ordered Abit NF7 2.0 and Barton XP2500.


    now only the memory....., i only can to buy that models, is a shop friend of my father, i cant other shop





    as by price it is one better option, taxes including ???




    PC3200 2*256 Twinmos ( twinmos chip)------------------------113€

    PC3200 2*256 Corsairs 2-3-3-------------------------------------150€

    PC3200 2*256 GEIL Ultra-------------------------------------------122€

    PC3200 2*256 GEIL Value------------------------------------------108€

    PC3200 1*512 Corsairs 2-3-3--------------------------------------129€




    PC3500 2*256 GEIL Ultra Platinum------------------------------146€




    PC3700 2*256 GEIL Platinum-------------------------------------178€

    PC3700 2*256 Twinmos (MTec chip)----------------------------162€






    i like to do some O/C but not a lot..................




    thx

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    Im using Geil PC3200 Ultra memory as of now. My first time using a Geil product, and I really like how they package their products. Cust. support OTOH isn't their strong suit. So if you're a newbie maybe not so good then.

    Anyway, I'd recommend the PC3200 Ultra memory, but just be forewarned that it requires lots of voltage. Make sure that your motherboard has this option and can do so upto 2.8volts minimum.

    My Soltek maxes @ 2.8 VDIMM but that's just enough for me to get the RAM up to 210 MHz CAS 2.0 3-3-11 stable. It's very good memory for the money- make no mistake!

    See my sig- I run @ 166 FSB since it kinda bothers me that my BIOS reports as some unknown "Athlon XP" when I run @ 200x10. Reports as XP 2400+ when @ 166 FSB.
    AMD "T-Bred" 1700+ @ 2.00 GHz
    1.625 volts
    ThermalTake TR2-M1 HSF
    Soltek 75FRN2-RL Ultra-400
    2x256MB Geil PC3200 Ultra DDR RAM
    Dual-Channel
    2x120mm Everflow case fans
    Antec SLK3700AMB case
    Achieve 500 watt PSU
    PNY GF4 Ti4200-8x 128MB DDR
    Hercules Digifire 7.1
    Intel Pro1000MT Gigabit NIC
    Maxtor DiamondMax+9 60GB 8MB
    Maxtor DiamondMax+ 40GB 2MB
    LiteOn LTD-163 DVD
    LiteOn LTR-48125S CDRW
    NEC 18.1" 1860NX LCD
    . . .

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    neither. geil sucks hard.
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    Geil works fine on the NF7-S v.2.0.
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 (230*10.5)
    Thermaltake Crystal Orb on NB, stock heatsink on SB
    Athlon 2500+ @ 2.415
    Thermalright SLK900U w/ AS3 and 92mm YS Tech
    Palit Daytona Geforce 4 Ti4200 8X @ 290/575
    512mb(256mbX2) Twinmos w/ Winbond CH-5 11-2-2-2.0 DC
    WD 40G ATA100 8MB cache
    Cheiftec Case Antec True 430w PS
    52x24x52 MSI Dragon CDRW
    3Dmark01

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    Neither, go with another brand.

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    Most people that say Geil sux has never owned any. They go on the opinion of a nOOb overclocker that can't get it to run 200mhz on an old motherboard that won't support 266fsb. I've built at least 40 systems using Geil PC3200 and the NF7-S. The slowest one would hit 221mhz w/ 6-3-3-2.0 timings in Dual Channel. The only problem I've had out of Geil is one bad stick out of what, 80? I believe that's a pretty good ratio.
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 (230*10.5)
    Thermaltake Crystal Orb on NB, stock heatsink on SB
    Athlon 2500+ @ 2.415
    Thermalright SLK900U w/ AS3 and 92mm YS Tech
    Palit Daytona Geforce 4 Ti4200 8X @ 290/575
    512mb(256mbX2) Twinmos w/ Winbond CH-5 11-2-2-2.0 DC
    WD 40G ATA100 8MB cache
    Cheiftec Case Antec True 430w PS
    52x24x52 MSI Dragon CDRW
    3Dmark01

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    Originally posted by Shayne68
    Most people that say Geil sux has never owned any. They go on the opinion of a nOOb overclocker that can't get it to run 200mhz on an old motherboard that won't support 266fsb. I've built at least 40 systems using Geil PC3200 and the NF7-S. The slowest one would hit 221mhz w/ 6-3-3-2.0 timings in Dual Channel. The only problem I've had out of Geil is one bad stick out of what, 80? I believe that's a pretty good ratio.
    ive had experience with geil..once was enough. i bought the 2x256MB Goldeb dragon pc3200 dual channel kit at newegg, and it took me 6 hours just to get the darned thing to boot up in dual channel mode. i got it to run OK at 200mhz fsb, however, it wasnt entirely stable..it couldnt run at its rated timings stable enough, so I had to increase the T(ras) to 9. I also contacted geil tech support 2 times, neither which was replied. needless to say, I sold the sticks to another guy, disappointed at the way geil treats their customers. Incidentally, that guy cannot get his board (kt333) to boot up with the ram, in single or dual channel. He has RMAed the ram, which I am sending back to him. I certainly hope he has better luck this time.
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    Chaintech AE6800 Apogee Turbo
    Enermax EG565AX-VE(W) (24P) 535W
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    I don't know anything about the Golden Dragon ram bro, your experience w/ it may not have been pleasant and I can't give an opinion either way since I've never tried it. I've never had to contact Geil over any of their products therefore I don't know how their customer service is. The only bad stick I've ever gotten was RMA'd through newegg.

    I was refering to the Geil PC3200 Dual DDR Kit as being good ram for me on the NF7-S board. I was thinking about trying the Dragon, but I don't see the point w/ all the trouble everyone is having w/ it.
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 (230*10.5)
    Thermaltake Crystal Orb on NB, stock heatsink on SB
    Athlon 2500+ @ 2.415
    Thermalright SLK900U w/ AS3 and 92mm YS Tech
    Palit Daytona Geforce 4 Ti4200 8X @ 290/575
    512mb(256mbX2) Twinmos w/ Winbond CH-5 11-2-2-2.0 DC
    WD 40G ATA100 8MB cache
    Cheiftec Case Antec True 430w PS
    52x24x52 MSI Dragon CDRW
    3Dmark01

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    Shayne, I have owned it. Same experience here with 3200 Ultra dual in A7N8X Deluxe, ran fine single but not over 175 FSB in dual regardless of voltage to 2.9. Each stick tested fine with Memtest.
    Geil owns up to a problem with nforce2 boards but says nvidia has a fix. Your mb manufacturer may or may not have implemented the fix. Check their Taiwan site user forum for an idea of the issues. They have not tested to 200 FSB on A7N8X that I know of.

    Newegg rma'd it even after 30 days with no restock. I popped in two Corsair XMS 3200 C2 and can run over 200+ FSB with no issues. You pays you money, you takes you chances.To each his own.
    Last edited by jcv; 08-06-2003 at 10:17 PM.

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