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  1. #61
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    Thank you Metastock!


  2. #62
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    By the way, what was AMD:s marketshare before the original Athlon? Before Athlon came out all my friends had Intel processors but now almost all have switched to AMD, including I.

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    Originally posted by steven975
    no, i do not see a top forming. It is inconclusive.

    you CANNOT try to extrapolate a stock chart. I know they try to teach people to do this in beginner's/intermediate statistics but it is NOT a sound practice of applying trend principles to predict a stock.

    > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

    Of course it's not 100% conclusive.
    You want a Mystic? ... To read tea leaves? ... Technical charting is
    part of the BIG picture. ... one source of information among many.

    Anyone who totally dismisses technical charting as "hooey"
    or "hogwash" is overlooking a very valuable information source.
    Like I said above ... it's just one among many.

    Don't get me wrong. It's great to see that some of you made
    some ca$h (if you already sold) on this spike.
    But when someone comes here and tells everyone to buy
    quickly before it's too late because they made a few bucks in
    the past few weeks, it's time to step back and look at the
    situation objectively. The stock has already made nearly 100%
    rise in the last couple weeks. Do you really think it will do
    another 100% in the next two?

    Past performance is no guarantee of future potential.



    As always ..... just my humble two cents.
    Last edited by Susquehannock; 09-03-2003 at 03:44 PM.

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    yes, technical charting has its place.

    but too many use it wrong. they look at charts and try to apply what they learned in intermediate statistics to extrapolate. that IS hooey. Many if not most economist/statisticians laugh when finance people with *SOME* knowledge try to extrapolate something using trend data. Stocks are affected by factors external to the trend data. It is these factors that must be looked at and quantified to truly give one an edge. Quantifying qualitative events is more art than science, though.

    Now, trend data CAN be used to help predict revenues/profits by adjusting for seasonal and cyclical data. In a perfect world, stocks would be based on this, but they are not. Stock values are based on the opinions of numerous ignorant investors

    now, using charts and "overlaying" events into it can show what happens when certain events occur. that can help in predicting the future value of a stock.
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    caprid, good dicipline on your part. a lot of people would stick it out on hopes of getting that 2x-10x bagger... only to see it fall like a rock...

  6. #66
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    last vew days have seen some good volume and buying, looks pretty good and since this is the beginning of the month the bug funds dont need to take in the profits to make them selves look good and get the big bonus. all you can do is trail it up with a stop loss so WHEN they do go cashing in and that will happen soon its healthy for the stock to take a break....you can sell and buy back a little lower that is if you aggresive trader if not. the long term looks great and the economy is getting better kids are going back to school buying comps etc etc.

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    There are a good many very famous analysts that have done
    quite well with their TA skills.

    Sigh .......... probably shouldn't lock horns with someone who
    says something like : "Stocks are affected by factors external to
    the trend data."
    Of course stocks are affected by external factors!
    That is like saying my pizza is hot because it's in the
    oven. In one sentence TA is all hogwash, but
    a while later it's good in certain circumstances.
    It's obvious my technical chart post hit a nerve
    somewhere somehow Steven975. For that I am truely sorry.

    My intention was to show the trend forming.
    Indeed the stock has traded nearly sideways for
    days.

    Furthermore, anyone who has been in the markets for any
    length of time knows that not all strategies work for everyone. The best thing one can do is find and adapt a trading style that
    works best for them.
    And for me it's Charts & Chains.
    But do I use them exclusively? Of course not!
    Guess I'm more of a "Random Walker" instead of
    a "Technical trader". Then there's the other end of the spectrum,
    the "Fundamentalists".

    BTW ......
    .... you might be interested to know that the two stocks I
    mentioned earlier have recently spiked.
    Took some long term (since late '99 & early '00) money off the table.
    Slow and steady wins the race.
    Took a bit of the profit and bought some October 12.50 calls (AMDJS)
    @ 0.50 today. Lets see if she can break 13.00 before
    October witching day.


    Good luck with AMD all!
    Last edited by Susquehannock; 09-04-2003 at 11:44 PM.

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    Intel adjusted it's revenue forecast positively, this should bump up the chipmakers considerably.

    What's interesting about the future is AMD's ability to sell it's A64 to a consumer that expects to pay "less", where in fact AMD intends to price in more profitable ranges ala Intel, which if you think about it many will tell you one of the main reasons they buy AMD is because "it's cheaper", it (sales) can have a very bad effect on the stock, on the flipside if it were to sell at or better than expected you'd see a real good run-up.

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    OK i don't want to lock horns either. seems you understand what i'm saying, so we have some common ground at least.

    i was basically trained in economics then did finance for my mba. As a result, I tend to disagree with many analysts and their ways of doing things. A LOT of my classmates knew next to nothing; it just amazed me...and i know this is true for all mba programs. the stock analysts are all of this type. unfortunately, they really get their jobs through nepotism, not true talent


    I don't want to argue with the future of amd. obviously they will not be a market leader in the next year, BUT i really believe that their share will go up. remember there was a month (i think last year) that AMD actually outsold intel! the whole "64bit" thing may not have a lot of effect on intel diehards (a minority), but the less "knowledgeable" (ignorant) customers will see a 64bit computer vs. 32bit and see a premium product.

    amd doesn't have to take the lead for their stock to go up. if they take ANY share away from intel, that will improve the stock significantly.
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    Well im doing well right now , im up like 3600 dollars. Just from AMD and im up about 20 % since 2 weeks ago
    Buy AMD !

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    Well im doing well right now , im up like 3600 dollars. Just from AMD and im up about 20 % since 2 weeks ago
    Buy AMD !

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    I would agree that most analysts dont know anything, its the ones that know how to trade and actually know not have read the fundamentals about either a stock or commoditie that know anything.

    my favorite magazine is http://www.traders.com/ in aug issue a famous trader was featured. he turned 11000 into 18 million in 18 months, even more after that all done after he learned how to trade and read charts with little indicator use, thats technical analysis! It doesnt take a degree in economics to make yourslef rich but knowing how to trade will

    Dan Zanger is at chartpattern.com
    Last edited by Beerlover; 09-05-2003 at 07:30 AM.

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    Originally posted by Myself and I
    Well im doing well right now , im up like 3600 dollars. Just from AMD and im up about 20 % since 2 weeks ago
    Buy AMD !
    thats cool but my 2 week record is 4500. in gold and grains... after puting 2000 in my account. they were my first trades i was 25 and yes im bragging lol.

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    I'd have to agree.
    Any bit of market share that AMD can take away from
    giant Intel (INTC) would be plus. We may be out trending
    INTC in the short term. But we still have a way to go
    to break the long trend.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=AMD&...z=m&q=l&c=intc


    AMD is looking strong at the open this morning. Trading above
    12 a share for the first time in over 15 months is it not?

    The calls I bought yesterday have already doubled!
    13 here we come!
    Last edited by Susquehannock; 09-05-2003 at 10:15 AM.

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    i bought at 8 and change at the beginning of august.

    now 12 and change. can anyone say 50% gain
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