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    Question What's the deal with RAID being "not so popular"

    Back in the AMD761 / KT333 days, there was seldom a member that didn't have raid 0. Now looking at people's siggs, only a handfull run raid. WHAT HAPPENED??????

    Also, it seems as if motherboard makers did away with IDE raid.
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    It seems these days a lot of ppl are actually happy with their 7200 RPM, 8 meg cache HDDs. Think about how fast these drives are compared to the 5400 RPM, 2 meg cache drives back in the day. A lot of ppl knew they were slow and I guess felt RAID was a great solution. The ppl who have experienced a RAID 0 (1+0) config are starting to get back in it because of all the SATA excitment and ppl are ranting and raving about the speeds with RAID 0. More and more ppl are understanding the benefits of a RAID config and manufacters are starting to make setting up a RAID array easy as cake. That is my take anyways. . . anyone else ?

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    In addition to that, there are also those who have experienced the agony of a RAID-0 crash. Many of them swore it off at that point. Fortunately some of them switched to RAID-1 and some of them have had their arses saved by it. The now RAID-1 folks will probably stick with it. RAID-0 enthusiasts, hopefully having learned a valuable lesson, may give it another try but they won't be caught with all of their eggs in the same basket again either. Then of course are those who are now learning that STR speeds are not the end-all of RAID-0. A new kid on the block has proven that quite a few times.

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    In addition to that, there are also those who have experienced the agony of a RAID-0 crash. Many of them swore it off at that point. Fortunately some of them switched to RAID-1 and some of them have had their arses saved by it. The now RAID-1 folks will probably stick with it. RAID-0 enthusiasts, hopefully having learned a valuable lesson, may give it another try but they won't be caught with all of their eggs in the same basket again either. Then of course are those who are now learning that STR speeds are not the end-all of RAID-0. A new kid on the block has proven that quite a few times.



    I dont see why people are so worried about raid 0 crashing on them...the way I see it (just my opinion) If all you had was 1 HD and it crashed...it would be the same as a raid array crashing...again that is just the way I perceive it.

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    Grinch, I agree with you as well, but with RAID 0, you really have twice the likelyhood of it crashing.

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    Nothing wrong with that bro. I just don't like seeing folks get nailed when much more convenient backup options for home users are so easily had.

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    roll the dice and let the good times roll....and lots of speed...if i get a lil worried about something I make a CD and dont sweat the small stuff! I can not worry myself about the possibility of my raid crashing...thats why my raid is used for gaming mostly....

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    Originally posted by Grinch on 11-17-2003 at 07:58 PM
    roll the dice and let the good times roll....and lots of speed...if i get a lil worried about something I make a CD and dont sweat the small stuff! I can not worry myself about the possibility of my raid crashing...thats why my raid is used for gaming mostly....
    I'm certainly glad you are in a position to be able to take it so lightly!

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    I don't think it's taking it lightly, but think of how many people per day have a hard disk crash...I mean, if you are doing important things are your computer, you should have the common sence to back it up, like Money for example, or whatever programs you are using.

    I don't really think that it is too much to ask from people, and these aren't even advanced users. Daily backups are essential, regardless of what configuration you are using and what computer system you are using.

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    Absolutely. I agree. I'm just trying to paint what I hope is a rounded picture of RAID in general for the average home PC user. Risks, lessons, options, that kind of stuff.

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    what happenned to RAID 0
    I think people realized that under desktop use the ~15% performance gain wasn't woth the cost of another HDD and the RAID controller along with the increased risks and headaches.

    A single fast disk or 2 disks use seperately is probably better for most people.

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    I try to live by the rule: never have anything on a computer that you can't live without. I've had dead hard drives, bad backups, dead psu's. I've seen computers completely fried by surges.

    I definitely learned that rule several times over. I used to think backups were the way, but when the 16th CD of a major backup was corrupted I gave up that idea too.

    Though it would be sweet for manufacturers to start including RAID 5 on their boards.
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    SIL3112 SATA Raid controller + 2 WD Raptor (pure) SATA drives = cut your boot time in half + cut your cable modem download time by 20% + zone faster than everyone else in EverQuest ...

    Seriously, folks, the above RAID0 configuration will flat out beat any single IDE drive ... hands down. The response time when reading from or writing to any file is visibly obvious.

    Of course, I do keep a 60G 75GXP IDE drive around to backup the important stuff on my RAID0 array ...

    Something to remember is that many of the current "SATA" drives are no more than IDE drives with some additional "translation" circuitry to adapt their interface. This is not the same as running a (pure) SATA drive designed from the ground up to work that way.

    And it definitely helps to put any hard drive into a case that has at least two fans blowing air over the drive area to keep the drives cool (Cooler Master and Lian-Li are two obvious choices)
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    Lol, might want to keep a backup for the IBM drive as well, the 75 wasn't one of their best...

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    Lol, might want to keep a backup for the IBM drive as well, the 75 wasn't one of their best...

    Later,
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    **********VERY TRUE....I had a 75gxp and it went bad and had to get 60gxp as replacement.

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