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    Lefties bashing the war doesn't make the soldiers feel like ••••. I don't envy their job, but it is a job. The US has a professional army. It also has a political system that needs people to represent both sides. Good of Dubya to head over there. I'm sure it cheered up a bunch of people over there.

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    Originally posted by afalzone on 11-27-2003 at 10:06 PM
    Lefties bashing the war doesn't make the soldiers feel like ••••. I don't envy their job, but it is a job. The US has a professional army. It also has a political system that needs people to represent both sides. Good of Dubya to head over there. I'm sure it cheered up a bunch of people over there.
    No its not a job its much more then that what JOB ask you to potentially die in defense of something? Or to leave your family
    "It is the soldier,not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
    It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
    It is the soldier, not the campus organizer , who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
    It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin
    is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
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    Originally posted by afalzone on 11-27-2003 at 08:06 PM
    Lefties bashing the war doesn't make the soldiers feel like ••••.
    Thats one of the most rediculous comments i've heard in a while. It been proven in the past, especially during vietnam that the bashing by politicians as well as the anti-war hippies, hurts moral. When soldiers know that there is a large movement back home who don't support what they are doing, its a downer.

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    Originally posted by Airmanv on 11-27-2003 at 10:47 PM
    No its not a job its much more then that what JOB ask you to potentially die in defense of something? Or to leave your family
    Law enforcement.

    Fire fighting.

    Defense Industry (my profession).

    Others, also lay it on the line every day.

    This isn't to take ANYTHING away from our Armed Forces. My highest honor was to wear the uniform - under a sworn oath to our president.....
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    Airmanv, Robert, SteveW... it sounds like all three of you either served or are serving in the armed forces. I just want to give y'all a big arsed heart felt thank you. Not just 'cause it's Thanksgiving either, but because your service is appreciated... big time.

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    Originally posted by afalzone on 11-27-2003 at 10:06 PM
    I don't envy their job, but it is a job. The US has a professional army. It also has a political system that needs people to represent both sides. Good of Dubya to head over there. I'm sure it cheered up a bunch of people over there.
    Obviously you have never been in the military. I challenge you to name one job that:
    • [1]Like Airmanv mentioned, asks you to potentially die in defense of something
      [2]Takes you away from your family for days, months, years
      [3]Has it's own judical system, police force, medical care system, and a jail/prison system.
      [4]Requires you to be physically fit and can terminate your eployment if you aren't
      [5]Has rules governing the type/way you have sex
      [6]Can fire you if you don't pay your bills
      [7]Has rules that govern your conduct/appearance/life style while at work as well as while not at work
      [8]Will send the authorities after you if you stop going to work


    I could go on, but it's late.

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    Oh and the fact that Bush spent Thanksgiving it Bagdad is cool...but IMO the way he did it was really cool.

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    Originally posted by Dutchcedar on 11-27-2003 at 09:55 PM
    Airmanv, Robert, SteveW... it sounds like all three of you either served or are serving in the armed forces. I just want to give y'all a big arsed heart felt thank you. Not just 'cause it's Thanksgiving either, but because your service is appreciated... big time.

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    for Dubya

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    I can't believe he did this... When I first heard about it I was shocked... I don't know how he got his protection detail to go along with it, man...

    Can you imagine? Sure it was the greatest thing in the world to do for the troops over there, but think of the damage to his security detail over here! The Security guys must've had a mass simultaneous heart attack when they got the word!

    It may just be a guy thing, but that just rocks my world... the only thing he could have done to make it more extreme is to fly the d@mned jet himself. Heh.... who knows, he may have taken a right hand seat for a few, too 'nStuff.

    But I tell ya, I'm still shaking my head in wonder. Full marks, W.



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    The president visiting his troops doesn't impress me all that much. The fact that a man choose to leave his family on the day when family means so much, over a gruelling possibly deadly voyage, for nothing more than an opportunity to understand the loneliness our troops are feeling today, and spent that day serving the men that spend their lives serving us, THAT means alot.

    Hey Fluff, that sig it's from Discworld? What book? I don't remember reading that one.

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    Originally posted by Robert3 on 11-27-2003 at 02:44 PM
    CNN report
    Having spent some time in uniform, I've got to give him his props for that. Knowing how such a trip can strengthen the hearts and resolve of the troops, I don't mind saying reading the report brought a tear to my eye. I've got to say "Damn good job!".
    But, this isn't enough to convince me we should reelect him..........
    Not being a fan George's presidency, but having spent time in the military, I think that what he did was nothing less than awesome. When he stood at the podium, welling up, fighting back tears, brought tears to my eyes. Job well done George.
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    Originally posted by mostholycerebus on 11-28-2003 at 02:22 AM
    Hey Fluff, that sig it's from Discworld? What book? I don't remember reading that one.
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    Hey on the flip side could ya see Bill Clinton doing this? HAHAHAHAHA
    "It is the soldier,not the reporter who has given us the freedom of the press.
    It is the soldier, not the poet, who has given us the freedom of speech.
    It is the soldier, not the campus organizer , who gives us the freedom to demonstrate.
    It is the soldier who salutes the flag, who serves beneath the flag, and whose coffin
    is draped by the flag, who allows the protester to burn the flag."
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    Originally posted by Airmanv on 11-28-2003 at 09:06 AM
    Hey on the flip side could ya see Bill Clinton doing this? HAHAHAHAHA
    Gore & Hillary over there with him........all getting laughed at!!!!!!

    Gore would come back and take credit for inventing "Low Observability Stealth Technology", "FLIR" and "Night Vision Goggles".......

    Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

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