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    Re: Rolleyes News of The Day

    :sigh: I suppose there are worse ways to spend 20 minutes...

    SouthPark vs 9-11 conspiraci... conspiricys... conspyra... oh heck. South Park vs 9-11 nuts. In three parts.



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    The regime in the north is so short of electricity that the whole country is switched off at 9 p.m. - apart from the capital of Pyongyang where dictator Kim Jong-il and his cohorts live in relative luxury. But even there, lighting is drastically reduced.


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    Wha-wha-What?!? They told me that was just lies spread by Michelle Malkin!



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    Libertarianism & America [Jonah Goldberg]
    There is a great deal of truth in what Matt Yglesias has to say about the political prospects of libertarianism in America. Quite often, on the left and right, libertarianism means "the government shouldn't be involved in the things I don't want it to be involved in" and little more. This is why, for example, a weak-tea socialist like Bill Maher thinks he can call himself a libertarian. He knows nothing about libertarianism as an intellectual tradition, I'd wager. What he is is a libertine, which means he thinks the government should be silent about drugs and his sex life but that it's censorship when a network cancels his TV show and it's the height of enlightenment when the government imposes an egalitarian vision on the economy.
    The trick for liberals and conservatives as well as Democrats and Republicans, is to win over the people who want to limit the government in ways consistent with their larger agendas. The trick for libertarians is to explain to these various would be co-optors why they should think more broadly about where and how to limit government. But the idea that a major political party in this country can be built on serious libertarianism is just fanciful nonsense.
    Anyway, an excerpt from Yglesias :
    Meanwhile, I don't see any reason to believe it would be smart for a major political party to deliberately aim at the votes of some libertarian constituency. The reason is that, to a decent first approximation, about zero percent of the electorate is primarily motivated by a principled opposition to state coercion. We're not literally talking about zero people, I know some of them, and some write blogs, but it's genuinely a rounding error in the scheme of things. You do have some people who adhere to the Economist-style center-right politics of the American elite consensus, and this view has some similarities with libertarianism, but this genuinely is an elite consensus voting bloc rather than a libertarian one. It's also not seriously accessible to the Democrats over the long-run because a core element of the consensus is a fairly deep-seated loathing of progressive activism and progressive activists. It's worth understanding that, at the end of the day, there's much less libertarianism in American society than people sometimes think.
    For one thing, a lot of the views liberals tend to think of us libertarian-ish liberal positions aren't actually especially libertarian at the end of the day. For example, liberals, like libertarians, don't think the coercive authority of the state should be deployed to discriminate against gays and lesbians. Unlike libertarians, however, liberals generally think the coercive authority of the state should be deployed to prevent discrimination against gays and lesbians. We think that landlords shouldn't be allowed to refuse to rent houses to gay men, that bartenders shouldn't be allowed to refuse to serve them, that employers shouldn't be allowed to fire them, etc. Liberals believe in a certain notion of human liberation from entrenched dogma, prejudice, and tradition, but this isn't the same as hostility to state action, even in the sex-and-gender sphere.
    Similarly, it's often said that the interior west manifests a libertarian or proto-libertarian politics. I see, however, very little support for this view. We're talking about a portion of the country that derives its economic viability largely from huge levels of subsidy from the rest of the country. From the Universal Service Fee that makes telephones in the rural west cheap, to the way highway money disproportionately flows to sparsely-populated states, to agricultural subsidies and protectionism, to cheap exploitation of natural resources (lumber, coal, metals, grazing) on federally-owned land, these are people who very much enjoy sucking on the federal teat. A principled libertarianism would sell horribly in Montana.

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    I concur.
    Promote then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangutan View Post
    I concur.
    Dont get me wrong. The issue is pretty interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    "DARFUR IS JUST RWANDA IN SLOW MOTION:"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    "DARFUR IS JUST RWANDA IN SLOW MOTION:"
    It's shameful that we do not intervene there. Of all the things in the world that might be subject to military action, genocide is perhaps the most just cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangutan View Post
    It's shameful that we do not intervene there. Of all the things in the world that might be subject to military action, genocide is perhaps the most just cause.
    In the run up to the recent UN General Assembly, US and Britain upped the pressure on Khartoum to allow the UN intervention force to avert the humanitarian crisis in Darfur. The AU mandate was set to expire last month, but it has now been extended by three months with support from the UN and funding commitment from the Arab League. Khartoum had indicated readiness to fund the mission if only to keep away the UN force.
    The diplomatic coup was a big blow to the US and Britain which recently pushed other UN members to approve the deployment of 22,000 troops in Darfur. But Khartoum saw the UN Resolution Number 1706 as a conspiracy to settle old scores with its leadership. Fears were expressed that the US could use the presence of the force to instigate a regime change and arrest senior government officials named in a UN report as masterminds of alleged genocide in Darfur.
    Khartoum has succeeded in painting the US push for UN troops as targeting an Arab State. The US and Britain now find themselves isolated diplomatically - they ate humble pie and supported the extension of the AU mission in Darfur.
    Analysts have said the 7,000 AU troops have done little to restore calm in the region since their deployment more than three years ago. Lack of resources and a clear mandate are cited as the reasons for this. The problem is that the AU mandate in Darfur is to monitor and report, but not keep peace.
    A commander lamented: "We are too few and not well equipped. We just patrol, show our faces and come back to our base. We only investigate and report when something happens, but we don't do anything about it."
    It would make sense if AU member states changed the mandate of the peace monitoring force and provide adequate resources to enforce a ceasefire agreement. Considering past missions, there is no guarantee that the UN will succeed where the AU has failed. The difference between the two is the resources and personnel at their disposal and the goodwill or lack of it from powerful nations.

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    Most everyone here likes to describe me as some dove, but you know what? I think we ought to kick some ass in Sudan. You want to talk about regime change? Let's start there. There's no excuse for allowing this sort of thing to happen.
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