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  1. #451
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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by palmboy5
    i use PCP Flat (just checked, happens with others), with member info thingys for post set to left side..
    problem is.. different now... its like... pic shows, then it... lol remind me to post a screenie tommorrow ^^
    ok heres the screenies to the problem

    first of all, here is the full pic of what i sould be seeing, compare that to what you see in the screnies.
    http://www.angelfire.com/creep/cyber...l/bigal101.JPG

    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmb.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmbleg.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcp.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcpflat.jpg

    as you can see, screwed. btw same thing with the smilies when in the reply/new thread page.
    Last edited by palmboy5; 04-25-2004 at 03:21 PM.

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by palmboy5
    ok heres the screenies to the problem

    first of all, here is the full pic of what i sould be seeing, compare that to what you see in the screnies.
    http://www.angelfire.com/creep/cyber...l/bigal101.JPG

    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmb.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmbleg.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcp.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcpflat.jpg

    as you can see, screwed. btw same thing with the smilies when in the reply/new thread page.
    Thanks! I'll make sure this gets looked at by Tigs and Wise.

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Ok, 1 week later. I must admit that I'm getting used to a few things and actually like a few new additions.

    I like the new (real) amdmb skin.

    I still don't like the name change (amdmb/pcperspective).

    I got a question: If the Intel part of this forum expands, Will this expansion be in the AMD part (like the Gigabyte or processor forum be 1 forum for both Intel and AMD) or in a separate part?

    Sparks
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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by palmboy5
    ok heres the screenies to the problem

    first of all, here is the full pic of what i sould be seeing, compare that to what you see in the screnies.
    http://www.angelfire.com/creep/cyber...l/bigal101.JPG

    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmb.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmbleg.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcp.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcpflat.jpg

    as you can see, screwed. btw same thing with the smilies when in the reply/new thread page.
    can i have a link to that thread? and i see you are using mozzila...what version?

    thanks.
    hmm...

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks

    I got a question: If the Intel part of this forum expands, Will this expansion be in the AMD part (like the Gigabyte or processor forum be 1 forum for both Intel and AMD) or in a separate part?

    Sparks
    We haven't decided how we're going to handle the 'intel' content yet. We'll be doing some hard looks at what will be best for the forums and our members (both current and future). I'm also confident we'll be getting feedback from our current members before we make that decision.

    I'd rather not start into a debate on what to do about that now, so if you or others have opinions, I'd ask that you sit tight with them for a bit. We really want to focus on the forum suggestions and if we're all pulled into another debate over what to do with Intel, that's going to slow us down in working on implementing y'all's suggestions about vb3.

    If you feel you MUST comment about Intel right away, I'd ask that you send your comments to suggestions@pcperspective.com where they will be saved and reviewed when we start considering what to do.

    Thanks.

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by {Tigress}
    We haven't decided how we're going to handle the 'intel' content yet. We'll be doing some hard looks at what will be best for the forums and our members (both current and future). I'm also confident we'll be getting feedback from our current members before we make that decision.

    I'd rather not start into a debate on what to do about that now, so if you or others have opinions, I'd ask that you sit tight with them for a bit. We really want to focus on the forum suggestions and if we're all pulled into another debate over what to do with Intel, that's going to slow us down in working on implementing y'all's suggestions about vb3.

    If you feel you MUST comment about Intel right away, I'd ask that you send your comments to suggestions@pcperspective.com where they will be saved and reviewed when we start considering what to do.

    Thanks.
    I understand, time will come (later).

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    G.Skill DDR4 3600C15@4266MHz cas12 Nvidia GTX730, Samsung 850 Evo/OCZ Vertex 4
    and Seasonic Platinum 1200Wi, Dell Ultrasharp U2711 and 20-50 more systems...



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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparks
    I understand, time will come (later).

    Sparks
    Thank you! I (we) really appreciate it.

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by palmboy5
    ok heres the screenies to the problem

    first of all, here is the full pic of what i sould be seeing, compare that to what you see in the screnies.
    http://www.angelfire.com/creep/cyber...l/bigal101.JPG

    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmb.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/amdmbleg.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcp.jpg
    http://www.mylilsite.net/images/pcper/pcpflat.jpg

    as you can see, screwed. btw same thing with the smilies when in the reply/new thread page.
    im pretty sure its software...and not server related. tried it on another vb3 board and it does the same thing with mozilla...

    ill have to get with Tigsman on this one as im not sure why its doing it.
    hmm...

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by The Wise One
    can i have a link to that thread? and i see you are using mozzila...what version?

    thanks.
    Mozilla 1.4
    http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...65#post2761965
    can you link me a vb3 board? ^^

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by palmboy5
    Mozilla 1.4
    http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.p...65#post2761965
    can you link me a vb3 board? ^^
    Here's one. If you need/want more to compare issues, please let us know and we'll post up some more.

    http://forums.bit-tech.net/

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    strange thing is i checked that thread earlier, it was fine... o.O, then i checked now, its not fine.... uhhhhhhhhhhh

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by palmboy5
    strange thing is i checked that thread earlier, it was fine... o.O, then i checked now, its not fine.... uhhhhhhhhhhh
    i checked the thread you linked to. doesnt happen to me there. im running IE6/xp pro/1280x1024

    tried with mozilla as well...didnt happen. but i was able to replicate the problem on another vb3 forum (same version as this one). IE6 displayed as it should...streched post but everything was visible...but with mozilla...the info was cutoff...

    not sure why its doing it at this point...the issue is noted...and we willl look at it as soon as possible.
    hmm...

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Ryan, Tigsman, Tigress and et al.,

    I haven't seen any responses to my earlier post in this thread (right here) so I figure I should repeat it until you guys acknowledge it.

    More posters on this thread who have dial-up have complained of slowness on downloading these pages on pcperspective. Despite suggestions of browsing around some more to cache as much of the site as possible, they are still getting slow downloads. My suggestion #2 in my post linked above is one solution that definitely would help them.

    But that help doesn't end there. It can be helpful to pcperspective.com and I'll show you why.

    Suppose the hosting company carrying this forum has a bandwidth package on a sliding scale: $50 per month up to 200GB, $1.95 per GB past intial limit (up to an additional 30 GB) and then $2.75 for any GB after that.

    Let's say you have an average of 500K page views per day and with a rough average of 18KB per page download (not including advertisement downloads) that is around 9 GB per day. With an average of 30 days per month, that is around 270GB per month.

    On that sliding package, the costs would be:
    -$50 for 200GB
    -$58.50 for next 30 GB
    -$110.00 for last 40GB

    That's a total of $218 per month. I don't know what kind of bandwidth package you guys get at your hosting company, or how many pageviews you get each day and month, so all of these numbers are just speculation, but they help me bear out the following argument.

    By taking that css styles code out of each page download and into an external stylesheet which can be cached, you save 8.5KB on each pageview at least 95% of the time. I picked 95% since this forum gets so many regulars and few first-time visitors. Be advised that figure is very liberal.

    With that in mind, the new figures would be:
    -nearly 5GB per day(4.5GB for regulars and .45 GB for first-timers)
    -around 150GB per month
    -Total cost: $50 (within 200GB limit).

    With that hypothetical situation, you could save around $168 per month *just* by moving that CSS styles code into an external stylesheet. Not to mention, each pageview download would be perceived as quicker due to the cached stylesheet.

    If you guys have a sweet bandwidth deal (500GB/month for $80, etc.) then all this "saving money" argument is moot, but it doesn't discount the perception of faster pageview downloads, especially for users on dialup.

    I now resume my lurking.
    -Monk

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    Re: VB 3.0 -- The Constructive Criticism / Member Suggestions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by MonkCyclop
    Ryan, Tigsman, Tigress and et al.,

    I haven't seen any responses to my earlier post in this thread (right here) so I figure I should repeat it until you guys acknowledge it.

    More posters on this thread who have dial-up have complained of slowness on downloading these pages on pcperspective. Despite suggestions of browsing around some more to cache as much of the site as possible, they are still getting slow downloads. My suggestion #2 in my post linked above is one solution that definitely would help them.

    But that help doesn't end there. It can be helpful to pcperspective.com and I'll show you why.

    Suppose the hosting company carrying this forum has a bandwidth package on a sliding scale: $50 per month up to 200GB, $1.95 per GB past intial limit (up to an additional 30 GB) and then $2.75 for any GB after that.

    Let's say you have an average of 500K page views per day and with a rough average of 18KB per page download (not including advertisement downloads) that is around 9 GB per day. With an average of 30 days per month, that is around 270GB per month.

    On that sliding package, the costs would be:
    -$50 for 200GB
    -$58.50 for next 30 GB
    -$110.00 for last 40GB

    That's a total of $218 per month. I don't know what kind of bandwidth package you guys get at your hosting company, or how many pageviews you get each day and month, so all of these numbers are just speculation, but they help me bear out the following argument.

    By taking that css styles code out of each page download and into an external stylesheet which can be cached, you save 8.5KB on each pageview at least 95% of the time. I picked 95% since this forum gets so many regulars and few first-time visitors. Be advised that figure is very liberal.

    With that in mind, the new figures would be:
    -nearly 5GB per day(4.5GB for regulars and .45 GB for first-timers)
    -around 150GB per month
    -Total cost: $50 (within 200GB limit).

    With that hypothetical situation, you could save around $168 per month *just* by moving that CSS styles code into an external stylesheet. Not to mention, each pageview download would be perceived as quicker due to the cached stylesheet.

    If you guys have a sweet bandwidth deal (500GB/month for $80, etc.) then all this "saving money" argument is moot, but it doesn't discount the perception of faster pageview downloads, especially for users on dialup.

    I now resume my lurking.
    -Monk
    I will say this, the old site was coded very similarly to the point our code for forum browsing only increased about 10%, a minimal uptake considering the added content we can now provide. However there are some BW issues we are trying to address, not only for you the viewer, but for as as the host.

    I can only say we are looking at the setup of the forums and how best to optimize them for you and for us.



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