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    New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    See this article for details: http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=2093&p=1

    It seems that the new Celeron is much better then the old one.
    (Though this won't change anything for me)

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Intel need a better low end CPU as the Celeron is naff. The old PIII one was good (the one that’s just a PIII renamed). The older PIII and PII Celeron with only half the cache were ok ish and the old one with no L2 was useless.

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Screw the Celery, The Duron kicks ass!


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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    celly is and wil lremain crap,cuz intel wants it that way..

    lol @ : http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=2093&p=10

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Yeah, better than the 2.6Ghz that ran about as fast as my Overclocked to 1.45Ghz Tualatin-Celeron!!! Not hard to pull off...

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    So now we have a Celeron that still performs poorly and runs at 800 degrees

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Quote Originally Posted by _dangtx_
    celly is and wil lremain crap,cuz intel wants it that way..
    I'd never buy a Celeron, but it is a quite succesful CPU, in terms of market share. Intels low-end market approach is very succesful, despite the fact that low-end Athlon XPs have been quite faster that the Celeron chips so far

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Quote Originally Posted by orion24
    I'd never buy a Celeron, but it is a quite succesful CPU, in terms of market share. Intels low-end market approach is very succesful, despite the fact that low-end Athlon XPs have been quite faster that the Celeron chips so far
    yea, its successful because they are screwing un-educated consumers out of their money! if people knew that the celeron was a castrated pentium 4 that was missing both of its arms i dont think ANYONE would buy it!


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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    what a bunch of fanboys! I am amd supporter as well but i wouldn't make one sided remarks. What you mean they sucks? Don't you understand the review? I am sure in an INTEL forums, they are saying directly the opposite things.

    It's a fair review that praises intel's making more effort to add performance to celeron. You can't deny that the gap is definitely closing between amd and intel in the lowend section.
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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Quote Originally Posted by abubin
    You can't deny that the gap is definitely closing between amd and intel in the lowend section.

    Do you know have any idea how long the AMD Athlon XPs have been out for? At least 4 years now (Bartons only 3). Or maybe you are talking about the Athlon64 2800+ which is considered low end in its class.

    Sure this is an imporvement over the old celerons, but intel is still cheating customers by selling them crappy CPUs.

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    I think they are closing in, AMD is still better though. We shall see what the future will bring.

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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    Yeah, Intel is making an effort at improving Celerons now that there are lawsuits

    Gimme a break. A little late in my book. Seriusoly, how long has the celeron been out? And they are just now trying to improve?!?
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    Re: New Celeron "Prescot" D is much better

    The fact that this particular incarnation of the Celeron performs better than it's predecessors is, in my view, incidental. Intel did not actively set out to make a better Celeron -- it is simply a Celeron based off the core of the current Pentium, as has always been the case with Celerons.

    What makes this incarnation unique, however, is that it performs better than it's predecessor, while it's corresponding Pentium (Prescott) performs worse than it's own predecessor (Northwood) at the same clock speed. The bulk of this Celeron's performance boost comes from having double the L1 (16k) AND L2 (256k) cache and a 33% higher FSB (533 Mhz). The low FSB and tiny 128k L2 have held Celeron back for a long time, so it's no surprise that increasing these as much (percent wise) more than makes up for a longer pipeline and lower IPC. The Prescott P4 was hurt by this much more.

    Again, Intel didn't have to do anything special, just make a Prescott core and *not* disable quite as much cache, and allow it to run at a higher FSB.

    The title of this thread was "New Celeron Prescott D is much better", not "New Celeron Prescott D best thing since sliced bread". I don't think anyone here (myself included) would seriously consider buying a Celeron-based system. However, I just wanted to point out that Intel will sell Celerons, and people will buy them. Nothing wrong with that. Power users of course won't, but for the rest of the populace how much power do you really need to browse the Web, send email, IM, and download music? Maybe a few people who buy them will later feel like they've been cheated when their system won't run their latest game so well or what have you, but you get what you pay for. There's a reason P4 systems cost more, and there are AMD based systems for sale as well. An attentive buyer will notice this, and a respectable salesperson will explain the differences and let the customer know which will fit his or her needs.

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