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  1. #136
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    i think i've seen BH-4 before. it's wasn't DDR i think, i think it was SDRAM, thought it was pretty cool myself or if it was DDR it was PC2100 or something like that.
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  2. #137
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by kaotic
    i think i've seen BH-4 before. it's wasn't DDR i think, i think it was SDRAM, thought it was pretty cool myself or if it was DDR it was PC2100 or something like that.
    Can't be, cuz BH-4 would be DDR500. It must of been something else!

    Imagine BH-4....default FSB of 250 with 2-2-2-11 timming at lets say 2.9 volts max!
    I think with 3.3 Volts it would do 260 or even 270 with 2-2-2-X timming!
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  3. #138
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by rmanaudio
    Can't be, cuz BH-4 would be DDR500. It must of been something else!

    Imagine BH-4....default FSB of 250 with 2-2-2-11 timming at lets say 2.9 volts max!
    I think with 3.3 Volts it would do 260 or even 270 with 2-2-2-X timming!
    Nice dreams, unfortunately, they are never going to come true.

    Anyway, some OCZ EBPC3700 are capable of 250fsb 2.5-2-2 at 2.9Volts and that's very very close.

    too busy to overclock

  4. #139
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrlobber
    Pretty much an agreement that Anandtech received very special handpicked sticks because no real user so far has been able to duplicate the results.
    Let's give it a chance before we jump to conclusions. If I recall, many people complained about the same thing when the BH-5's were first discovered by several review sites. Until people learned they responded quite well to long burn in periods and high voltage. Maybe the same thing needs to happen with these 5B G chips?

  5. #140
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by xenolith
    Let's give it a chance before we jump to conclusions. If I recall, many people complained about the same thing when the BH-5's were first discovered by several review sites. Until people learned they responded quite well to long burn in periods and high voltage. Maybe the same thing needs to happen with these 5B G chips?
    Quite a few people have tried them at xtremesystems.org and nobody has been able to duplicate these results. And these people know what they're doing. Of course, with price/performance ratio these modules are very good, but I repeat, no huge overclocks on them like Anandtech said, and they're consistently losing out to OCZ EB series with Micron 5B-C chips.

    too busy to overclock

  6. #141
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by mrlobber
    Quite a few people have tried them at xtremesystems.org and nobody has been able to duplicate these results. And these people know what they're doing. Of course, with price/performance ratio these modules are very good, but I repeat, no huge overclocks on them like Anandtech said, and they're consistently losing out to OCZ EB series with Micron 5B-C chips.
    The price is actually the same as Corsair 3200XL, which is also rated 2-2-2-5.
    I know the Anandtech article gave the nod to the Crucial, but most people seem to be getting good results with the Corsair.
    I'm considering my options, would it be fair to say that the XL memory is a safer bet?
    System 1
    2600M@2.5Ghz (11.5x218fsb, 1.775V), IQYHA 0351 MPMW;
    Tt AQII water kit; Abit NF7-S R2, Tictac's D26 Mantarays XT CPC-on bios, L12 mod; OCZ Powerstream 470W PSU; 2x512MB Corsair 3200XL, 2-2-2-11, Vdimm=2.9V, Vdd=1.4V(!); GeXcube 9600XT AIW; 1x 80GB Seagate 7200.7 series, IDE-1 ; 2 x 80GB Samsung SP0812C Sata, Raid 0; Pioneer DVR-107, patched 1.13 firmware; XP Pro SP1 Dual boot Raid/IDE

    System 2
    Barton 2800+@2.2Ghz (12.5x176fsb, 1.7V);
    MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU, 5.7 Bios....Rock on!; Topower 420W PSU; 512MB HyperX PC3500; Leadtek GF3, Creative Audigy; 2 x 40GB Seagate 7200.7 series, RAID 0; 1 x 80GB Seagate 7200.7 series, IDE-1; XP Pro SP1 Dual boot - NTFS(Raid), FAT32(IDE1)

  7. #142
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Well i am no expert, but my PC4000 ballistix arrived today 2x512mb, and they are running great at 250Mhz 2.5,3,3,7, I have a epox 8kda3+ motherboard and A64 2800

    I also tried them at 200MHZ 2,2,2,5 and again they ran perfect, well happy with them!

  8. #143
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Zodiac2k4,
    set your VDimm to the most the motherboard will allow and try running:
    CAS = 2.5
    Trp = 2
    RAS-to-CAS = 3
    Tras = 6 (or 7 if necessary)

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  9. #144
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Just got my stick of 512MB Ballistix PC3200 today. Running 2-2-2-8 on 2.63V on my 8RDA+. Unfortunately only at 193 FSB because windows setup just wouldn't even start at anything more.

    I'm gonna look into an NF7s from newegg... wanted to take a chance with my 8RDA+ to see if it could hit 200... guess not... lame...
    I really should start posting again... and stop lurking...
    "Gaming"/Computer I use if lappy is not powerful enough:
    -1700+@10x219
    -Epox 8RDA+
    -Crucial Ballistix PC3200 (2.85vdimm 2.5-2-2-8)
    -Radeon 9600 Pro
    Laptop:
    IBM T40 (1.3 GHz P-M, 768 MB RAM, 40 GB 5400 RPM HD, CDRW/DVD)
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  10. #145
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by LinuxViolin
    Just got my stick of 512MB Ballistix PC3200 today.....
    I'm gonna look into an NF7s from newegg...
    I'll be interested to hear how you go with the NF7-S.
    The Ballistix sticks look ok.
    Both Kingston and Corsair offer 2-2-2-5 PC3200 sticks based on the Samsung TCCD chips - both selling for $280 for 2x512MB pairs (at Excaliber).
    Same price as the Ballistix pc3200.........decisions, decisions.
    System 1
    2600M@2.5Ghz (11.5x218fsb, 1.775V), IQYHA 0351 MPMW;
    Tt AQII water kit; Abit NF7-S R2, Tictac's D26 Mantarays XT CPC-on bios, L12 mod; OCZ Powerstream 470W PSU; 2x512MB Corsair 3200XL, 2-2-2-11, Vdimm=2.9V, Vdd=1.4V(!); GeXcube 9600XT AIW; 1x 80GB Seagate 7200.7 series, IDE-1 ; 2 x 80GB Samsung SP0812C Sata, Raid 0; Pioneer DVR-107, patched 1.13 firmware; XP Pro SP1 Dual boot Raid/IDE

    System 2
    Barton 2800+@2.2Ghz (12.5x176fsb, 1.7V);
    MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU, 5.7 Bios....Rock on!; Topower 420W PSU; 512MB HyperX PC3500; Leadtek GF3, Creative Audigy; 2 x 40GB Seagate 7200.7 series, RAID 0; 1 x 80GB Seagate 7200.7 series, IDE-1; XP Pro SP1 Dual boot - NTFS(Raid), FAT32(IDE1)

  11. #146
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    the best i have done so far with a pair of 512 Ballistix PC3200 is 234fsb on my NF7-S ver2 - memtest error free for more than an hour (command per clock enabled,CPU interface enabled, vdimm=2.9 D23-3D_fire BIOS), timings 11-2-2-2.5
    Antec SX1030 Case / Tagan 480W
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 Zalman NB32 on NB
    Athlon XP1800+ DLT3C @ 230*11~2.5 Ghz L12mod + D23_3D-Fire 1.825 volts
    Watercooled by custom radiator 12*50cm &Eleven's crusader and 4*12cm fans
    2x512MB Crucial Ballistix PC3200~sync. 11-2-2-2.5
    Gainward 6800GT watercooled by swiftech MCW50
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  12. #147
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by XTCgr
    the best i have done so far with a pair of 512 Ballistix PC3200 is 234fsb on my NF7-S ver2 - memtest error free for more than an hour (command per clock enabled,CPU interface enabled, vdimm=2.9 D23-3D_fire BIOS), timings 11-2-2-2.5
    Similar results here, but what worries me is that performance goes down each day.

    When I received the ram I could run a few passes of memtest at 246 Mhz (2.5-2-2-5-1T@2.8V) without error. I could run Prime for an hour.

    The day after I had errors in memtest over 237 Mhz, but I could run 25 passes of memtest at 236 Mhz during the night.

    Now I have errors at 236 also. I tried Tras =10 or 11, upgraded the voltages (Vdd and Vdimm), but still errors. Prime crashes immediatly, even with low multiplier. The CPU is prime stable at 2600 with Corsair Twinx 3200LL (217*12).

    Has anybody met such a thing? For info the case is open and a fan blows over the ram.

    BTW, does anybody know how much voltage Crucial accept without voiding the warranty?


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  13. #148
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by XTCgr
    the best i have done so far with a pair of 512 Ballistix PC3200 is 234fsb on my NF7-S ver2 - memtest error free for more than an hour (command per clock enabled,CPU interface enabled, vdimm=2.9 D23-3D_fire BIOS), timings 11-2-2-2.5
    Well I'd be happy with that fsb and CPC-on.
    I can run some CPC-off mod bioses and get around that speed, but performance is no better (often worse!) than 217 with the stock CPC-on Abit bios.
    System 1
    2600M@2.5Ghz (11.5x218fsb, 1.775V), IQYHA 0351 MPMW;
    Tt AQII water kit; Abit NF7-S R2, Tictac's D26 Mantarays XT CPC-on bios, L12 mod; OCZ Powerstream 470W PSU; 2x512MB Corsair 3200XL, 2-2-2-11, Vdimm=2.9V, Vdd=1.4V(!); GeXcube 9600XT AIW; 1x 80GB Seagate 7200.7 series, IDE-1 ; 2 x 80GB Samsung SP0812C Sata, Raid 0; Pioneer DVR-107, patched 1.13 firmware; XP Pro SP1 Dual boot Raid/IDE

    System 2
    Barton 2800+@2.2Ghz (12.5x176fsb, 1.7V);
    MSI KT3 Ultra-ARU, 5.7 Bios....Rock on!; Topower 420W PSU; 512MB HyperX PC3500; Leadtek GF3, Creative Audigy; 2 x 40GB Seagate 7200.7 series, RAID 0; 1 x 80GB Seagate 7200.7 series, IDE-1; XP Pro SP1 Dual boot - NTFS(Raid), FAT32(IDE1)

  14. #149
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    Re: Crucial Anouncement!!!

    i tried Merlin's BIOS that disable cpc but i didnt see any benefit... in fact my fsb didnt increase at all
    Antec SX1030 Case / Tagan 480W
    Abit NF7-S v2.0 Zalman NB32 on NB
    Athlon XP1800+ DLT3C @ 230*11~2.5 Ghz L12mod + D23_3D-Fire 1.825 volts
    Watercooled by custom radiator 12*50cm &Eleven's crusader and 4*12cm fans
    2x512MB Crucial Ballistix PC3200~sync. 11-2-2-2.5
    Gainward 6800GT watercooled by swiftech MCW50
    LG 1915S
    Crative Megaworks 550 + Audigy2

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