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[Provicemo]

well this is bad...

~$ su
Segmentation fault

any ideas?

[DualMonitor1551]

I think you're going to have to log in as root and recompile su in order to get it to work.

[Provicemo]

The hard part was getting root access, then finding out what package su belonged to.

ssh and shadow are the answers

[Spankin Partier]

Anyone here play with Smoothwall? I just saw a link for it on our Networking forum: http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=369332

Looks like a cool system. I may try it out tonight.

Hmm, I'm going to have to look on the CD to see if there is a way to get it to boot from floppy for installing. I've got an old comp at home...er, actually I think I may have another one that can boot CD. I'll have to look. Damn, you know you're a DFer when you can't keep track of the computers you have at home.

Anyways, Smoothwall also talks about VPN. Has anyone here ever tried to set up a VPN network? I'm not looking at just doing a tunnel, I would like to have the ability to have some Win2k or WinXP computers log in on my Primary Domain Controler (SAMBA) and be able to access all the file shares, possibly even VNC. Anyone tried that?

[Ned Slider]

I've not tried it but I bet you can do it. But the question that begs asking is why would you want to? Not set it up I mean, but use an old computer with smoothwall, when you can buy a dedicated router/firewall with VPN for about £60 (US$100) or thereabouts. It will take up a fraction of the space, use a fraction of the electricity, be a lot easier to set up and probably be more reliable in operation.

But hey, sounds like a great project and I bet you'd learn loads setting it up

Ned

[Spankin Partier]

I've been reading through the manuals and they says that Smoothwall Express (the opensource version) doesn't support IPsec which if I'm correct, is what's needed to have as they call them "road warriors." So it's not totally what I would need.

Also, most VPN systems that are offered within 'low end' routers do not have IPsec support either. Like Smoothwall Express, they only support VPN tunneling. This is good if you have 2 locations that you'd like to connect together, but it won't help you with your 'road warriors.'

[Provicemo]

If anybody is looking for a little holiday action for their desktop, check out xsnow
http://www.euronet.nl/~rja/Xsnow/

snow ever piles up on the windows!

[Spankin Partier]

Isn't it snowing already outside at Southfield? We've had almost a foot already on the ground about an hour South West from here.

[Provicemo]

maybe 1/2 inch came down today.
Bitterly cold, but not enough snow!

[Spankin Partier]

Yeah, it's been too cold to snow much the last couple of days.

I am lucky though, Hamilton doesn't get nearly as much snow as my home town of Stratford does. Not sure if it'll be a white Christmas or not here. In iether case, I'll be in Stratford where I'm sure there'll be snow.

[clawhammer]

and here's Utah, home of the winter olympics, with no snow in the valley since before thanskgiving. the only chance we'll have for a white christmas is if the fog that has been plaguing us for the past few days stays

on a seperate note altogether, I give up on FC3. to use my gigabit lan card, I need to compile the drivers. to compile the drivers, I need the kernel source. to get the source code, I need to get on the internet, but to get on the web I need to install the gigabit drivers tried looking for the source code while booted into windows, but no dice. tried compiling my own 'vanilla' kernel, but I found out i shouldn't have enable SELinux just don't want to take the time to compile it again, so I think I'll just reinstall FC2. I'd use SuSE 9.1, but I need apt (rpm version) or yum, and I just can't get those to work (dependancy hell, and Yast isn't much help).

[Ned Slider]

on a seperate note altogether, I give up on FC3. to use my gigabit lan card, I need to compile the drivers. to compile the drivers, I need the kernel source. to get the source code, I need to get on the internet, but to get on the web I need to install the gigabit drivers tried looking for the source code while booted into windows, but no dice. tried compiling my own 'vanilla' kernel, but I found out i shouldn't have enable SELinux just don't want to take the time to compile it again, so I think I'll just reinstall FC2. I'd use SuSE 9.1, but I need apt (rpm version) or yum, and I just can't get those to work (dependancy hell, and Yast isn't much help).

Yes, I was a little upset they removed the kernel sourcecode binary-style rpm package from FC3. It was simpler to install then the src.rpm package and of course was included on the main distro disks, not on the separate source disks or as a separate download. Shame

Ned

[clawhammer]

I take back what I said about snow though- it just started to flury. hooray for snow!

[Spankin Partier]

Yeah, there definitly won't be a white Christmas here!


*run's to the window*


Damn, didn't work. Guess I'll take what I get.



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So Fadora is doing the same thing as Mandraked did. When Mdk 10.0 came out, it had no kernel source either. Something about this trend I'm not liking. And to be honest, this is one of the reasons I became interested in Gentoo. If I want an Open Source product, then I'm going to get an Open Source product.

I know both Mandrake, and FC are 'user friendly, precompiled products.' But let's face it. The kernel source is needed alot in Linux. I was amazed at how easy it was to compile the kernel in Gentoo. Mind you it would / should be the same in FC, Mdk, and others too.

[clawhammer]

compiling the kernel is the same with any distro, correct? you're just using xconfig or menuconfig to choose all the options, which takes FOREVER. my problem with Gentoo is that I've become addicted to the integration that redhat does with kde/gnome.