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  1. #46
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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by frosty22
    I use the Panda scan alot. It always seems to find somethings the others don't, But I'm curious as to whether sometimes it's a false positive.
    In one of the test, the number of false positives:
    - Best Score 0 (total: 6230)
    AVG (Grisoft) 13
    AVP (Kaspersky) 9
    F-Prot 13
    AntiVir (H+BEDV) 31
    Panda 6
    NAV (Symantec) 0
    PC-cillin (TrendMicro) 11
    Virus control (Norman) 10
    VirusScan (McAfee) 0

    (Don't treat the result absolutely)

  2. #47
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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by SkaarjMaster
    Just ran Panda scanner today at work and it took forever and never completed. I had to continue working, so I stopped it. Why does it take so long?
    Not sure but my first instinct is it had crashed, which may be similar when a test was done and it crashed again.

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    Lightbulb Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Just another note, it's impossible to objectively decide which AV scanner is better at catching viruses than another without having a sizeable collection (thousands, more likely tens of thousands) of viruses covering various types for each scanner to have a go at. I'd like to know how many viruses were used in these tests. Of course on top of that, other considerations include the amount of resources the thing uses and the user-friendliness of the UI. From the choices we have now, there's not really much option but to hit and hope. As long as we're all happy with what we're running, eh?
    Just a quick answer.
    These tests are about 2X,XXX-4X,XXX samples at max.
    They are one of the most representative results.

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Several factors to consider, future threats and impact on the host system while running the AV product.

    Its no good if your AV overloads your system.

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    I use Kaspersky. I like the "real time" scanning ability, and making the switch from Norton was about the best move I've made. I also use Xoftspy for my SpyWare needsand ZoneAlarm Pro for my software Firewall. I have had no "infections" like I experienced in the past using these three programs. There may be a "better" scanner, but for what it does Kaspersky has my vote....
    Last edited by buddhabrat; 09-16-2005 at 11:06 AM.

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Wow, it must have taken a lot of work to benchmark all of these virus programs. Excellent work!

    I have a question, though: Which free Anti-Virus would you recommend? I've heard that Anti-Vir is a little better at scanning/detecting viruses, but Avast is more user-friendly. I have both installed (on two different PCs) but so far I have not run into any problems, so I do not know which one is better than the other.

    I mainly want to know because it's good to recommend to people who are still decideing on what retail Antivirus program is best for them, and because you may not have a retail program with you during a new PC build/OS install.

    Thanks!
    Heatware: Jawadali

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by Jawadali
    Wow, it must have taken a lot of work to benchmark all of these virus programs. Excellent work!

    I have a question, though: Which free Anti-Virus would you recommend? I've heard that Anti-Vir is a little better at scanning/detecting viruses, but Avast is more user-friendly. I have both installed (on two different PCs) but so far I have not run into any problems, so I do not know which one is better than the other.

    I mainly want to know because it's good to recommend to people who are still decideing on what retail Antivirus program is best for them, and because you may not have a retail program with you during a new PC build/OS install.

    Thanks!
    As to free alternatives, you have the following choices:

    AVG Free (limited home version) (http://www.grisoft.com/doc/289/lng/us/tpl/tpl01)
    AntiVir Free (limited personal version) (http://www.free-av.com/)
    Avast Free (limited home version) (http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html)
    F-prot (non-Windows full version) (http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/...p?id=69&mnu=69)
    VCatch (limited version) (www.vcatch.com)

    Clamwin - GPL Freeware (full version) (http://www.clamwin.com/)

    Antidote - on-deman scan ONLY (http://www.vintage-solutions.com/Eng...per/index.html)
    Bitdefender Free - on-demand scan ONLY (http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html)

    The following are NOT recommended:
    - VCatch (Reason: immature program)
    - Antidote, Bitdefender Free (Reason: on-demand only, that is they will scan your computer for malware only if you tell it to do so. They will not offer any real-time malware protection.)
    - F-prot (Reason: ONLY free for non-Windows versions; trial for Windows version)
    - AVG, Clamwin (Reason: Poor detection rate of malware - ~50% as an overview. Although AVG is popular, it is indeed bad in anti-virus according to the tests/reports. Its high fame and popularity may be due to "being the first to offer free AV", loyality, "appeal to popularity" etc.)


    The following are recommended
    1) AntiVir (Reason: Decent detection rate of malware: ~80% as an overview)
    2) Avast (Reason: Decent detection rate of malware: ~80% as an overview)
    In my opinion, AntiVir does a bit better than Avast recently.


    One of the best paid antivirus:
    - Kaspersky (Reason: Excellent detection rate of malware: ~99% as an overview)


    Other Anti-virus reports:
    http://www.av-comparatives.org/
    http://www.virus.gr/english/fullxml/...p?id=69&mnu=69

    PS:
    - All of the above just my personal opinion. Don't treat it as absolute!
    - I never intend to claim myself as an expert!
    - The value given above is for an overview ONLY. Don't treat it as absolute!
    - Only antivirus capabilities are concerned to reach the above conclusion. Other factors may be important to you, so your decision may differ, although I DO feel antivirus capabilities should be of primary concern.
    - Thanks so much for your time to read the above
    Last edited by Wai_Wai; 09-18-2005 at 01:45 AM.

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    I used NAV for years and now going to tryout the AVG (free version). Differenace so far is the AVG prompts almost evertime it finds something and offers 5+ buttons of "questions/do". The NAV was more simple, one "OK" button and does the job. Oh well.

    From reading this thread, how come AVG was rated "bad" in beginning and now it's highly respected already?

    Also, could you do a sample test on PC-cillin by TrendMicro? The chart didn't show much? As much I read out there, PC-cillin is most awarded? But, like DELL computers are most rewarded too, but much better to build your own (than buying a DELL, if you know what you're doing!).

    Chuck

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    Question Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    CNT,
    looks like AVG free is still rated bad. I do remember at one point though I think it's detection rate was 80%.

    Wai_Wai,
    So, based on your results and if we only wanted a free version, you are recommending AntiVir? If so, then I guess I'll uninstall AVG free and install AntiVir free. Does it work well with 98SE? I'm still using McAfee (paid) on my main computer though.

    One more thing: how much of a memory hog is AntiVir free compared to AVG free?
    Last edited by SkaarjMaster; 09-19-2005 at 11:01 AM.
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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Whilst we're talking free AV products, make sure you check out BitDefender Free Edition. It's unfortunately only an on-demand scanner (no real time protection in the free version), but has excellent detection rates, so that makes it an excellent choice for a free backup scanner to catch the odd thing your primary scanner misses.

    Ned

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    Question Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Does BitDefender Free Edition play nice with other AV programs (free or not)?

    Also, I found this interesting comparison of AntiVir and AVG (can't find date though):
    http://www.winplanet.com/article/2493-3695.htm

    This guy likes AntiVir:
    http://reviews.cnet.com/5208-3000-0-...958&start=-166

    Another interesting thread:
    http://castlecops.com/t132843-antivirus_or_AVG.html
    Last edited by SkaarjMaster; 09-19-2005 at 02:49 PM.

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by SkaarjMaster
    Does BitDefender Free Edition play nice with other AV programs (free or not)?
    In my experience - yes

    I have it installed and use it as my backup scanner (my main AV is Kaspersky). The only real reason I can think of that would cause AVs to not play nice is if you were to have 2 apps both providing real time protection at the same time. When I'm running an on-demand BitDefender scan I temporarily disable KAV's realtime protection until the scan has finished.

    Ned

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Any updates on Alwil Avast! 4.6 (free version)? The chart has N/A for it? Is Avast a hog software? What is it's ratings as of today?

    I am trying out this one now, since I didn't like the AVG 7.0.

    Chuck

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Quote Originally Posted by CNT
    Any updates on Alwil Avast! 4.6 (free version)? The chart has N/A for it? Is Avast a hog software? What is it's ratings as of today?

    I am trying out this one now, since I didn't like the AVG 7.0.

    Chuck
    Check it's performance at the recent (Aug) comparisons at AV comparatives:

    http://www.av-comparatives.org/

    Avast! scored a detection rate of 91% (84.4% excluding DOS and other OS viruses).

    Ned

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    Re: My Anti-virus Program Comparison Analysis

    Thanks. Funny that many still mock Norton AV, yet it's has almost the highest ratings. As we all agree, NIS is a hog software. Only if NIS make a more selective installations for advance users to install less garbage, then it may win it's people back? I'll have to read some more before decide on AV yet...

    Chuck

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