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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    I'm saying your findings are obvious. No need to run Sandra just to find out that 9x275=2475 performs better than 10x265=2650 since the latter is simply a faster speed.

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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    That's supposed to be 9x275 vs. 10x250 (I've been running 10x265 for so long that I screwed up).

    9x275 = 2575 10x250 = 2500

    The 10x250 is better overall and it's only a small increase. My point was that in the old XP chip days..the higher FSB would've been better even with a smaller oc.


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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by StanRoman
    That's supposed to be 9x275 vs. 10x250
    I figured that was what you meant to say...
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    ... in the old XP chip days...
    That is funny. XPs aren't too old yet, but reading that makes me feel like i'm running a relic.
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by accrajoe
    I figured that was what you meant to say...

    That is funny. XPs aren't too old yet, but reading that makes me feel like i'm running a relic.
    I just recently switched to A64 myself, from a great Mobile XP that did 2.6+. The funny thing is that when I bought the A64 3200+, all I expected was 2.2-2.4..I got 10x265.


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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    xp's old??? I'm still proud to say I'm running a mobile xp and haven't wasted money on an "upgrade" to a 64 system. Unless you like to say you have the fastest system out what is the sense in an upgrade like this? I recently did a benchmark test with a friend who is running a A3400 and my mobile xp running at 2430 beat him at every sandra test. Games aren't a fair comparison due to the fact he's still running a Ti4200 but my processor has just as much if not more uumph than any reasonably priced stock A64 and I paid 75 dollars for it a year and a half ago
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Good Point! My Mobile Xp 2400 Is At 2.6 Gig, How Is That Going To Match Up With A A64?i Have Been Thinking About Upgrading, But I Am Not Sure It Will Be Much Of A Preformance Boost.

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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by HOPS
    Good Point! My Mobile Xp 2400 Is At 2.6 Gig, How Is That Going To Match Up With A A64?i Have Been Thinking About Upgrading, But I Am Not Sure It Will Be Much Of A Preformance Boost.
    Let me put it this way for you guys. At 12x220 I had a great XP MP and I had the same ram Corsair 1G PC4400C25 (at 2-2-2-9) and the Gigabyte X800XT @ 550/550..I could only get 23,000+ on 3dMark2k1 and around 9000+ 3DMark2k3. After upgrading to the A64 at only 10x250 at 2.5-3-3-10, I got 28,000+ right away..5k pts. improvement but at 10x260, I got 29,500+ 2K1 and 13,600+ 2K3.

    The real difference came with Doom3 where the game just took off and I didn't see the stupid pauses or slowdowns when entering new rooms etc and now my setup eats Doom3 for a snack at 1200x1000 with 2X AA and 8X AF and "High Quality" settings. A64s completely stomp the XPs..think of New England smacking the Colts like they did and you got the comparison (anyone with A64 setups will tell you that. Of course you can't have an A64 setup with a 3D FX 64mb video card and a $20 PSU with $100 ram and expect to see the real difference.)..no comparison and trust me XP is old stuff..you'll be upgrading soon.

    Hell, why not $160+ for a A64 3200+ that'll blow away an XP and that'll OC just as much if not more. I can hit 10x270 stable with this A64. No XP ever gave me that much. I can say that because I had some killer XP little chips that hit 2.6 but 2.6 XP is almost like an A64 2.0 as far as performance and I might be giving the XP a little too much credit there.


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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    BTW I was stable at 300x9 with my 2800+ but it wasnt 1:1, but the CPU could still handle it.

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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    I feel bad having my C0 rev. skt754. all you 939ers are making me jealous! I know the proc can do 2.4Ghz, i physically can't get it any higher because of the stupid lack of agp lock...and my memory currently isn't all that great, only 215 3-4-4-8 2.6v. maybe with a DFI nf3 and some TCCD i'm hoping at least for 240 1:1 and maybe throw a divider and run it at 2.6. Voltage won't be problem as with my current set up, I can do 1.8v without hitting 60c....*sigh*
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by l3p3r_M355i4h
    I feel bad having my C0 rev. skt754. all you 939ers are making me jealous! I know the proc can do 2.4Ghz, i physically can't get it any higher because of the stupid lack of agp lock...and my memory currently isn't all that great, only 215 3-4-4-8 2.6v. maybe with a DFI nf3 and some TCCD i'm hoping at least for 240 1:1 and maybe throw a divider and run it at 2.6. Voltage won't be problem as with my current set up, I can do 1.8v without hitting 60c....*sigh*

    Actually TCCD doesn't need the hgih voltages to run at faster speeds. The DFI will rock, but you probaby won't get any better performance at higher RAM voltages, and in fact may see a decline in the highest acheivable fsb at 1:1.
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by brewzer
    Actually TCCD doesn't need the hgih voltages to run at faster speeds. The DFI will rock, but you probaby won't get any better performance at higher RAM voltages, and in fact may see a decline in the highest acheivable fsb at 1:1.
    Correct! Giving TCCD anything over 2.55v or 2.60v is asking for problems. Those tales of TCCD loving high voltages are just that. A myth and where are all those threads and stories now? I tell you where..the people claiming that found out they weren't stable at all after 1 or 2 hrs....kind of like I found out. I let you all know just so you don't make the mistake of thinking, "ok, stock says 2.75v..let me give that f#$%&@ 2.85v and 10mhz over and let it rip"
    you'll just get a ton of problems that way.


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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 300

    Quote Originally Posted by HOPS
    Good Point! My Mobile Xp 2400 Is At 2.6 Gig, How Is That Going To Match Up With A A64?i Have Been Thinking About Upgrading, But I Am Not Sure It Will Be Much Of A Preformance Boost.
    because a athlon 64 2800+ at 1.8 rapes a 3200+ xp in games. More than rapes, gives it a gang rape,
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by brewzer
    Actually TCCD doesn't need the hgih voltages to run at faster speeds. The DFI will rock, but you probaby won't get any better performance at higher RAM voltages, and in fact may see a decline in the highest acheivable fsb at 1:1.
    I don't want it for the vdimm, i want it for the vcore! isn't the dfi supposed have, like 2.0vcore or somethin' I know with the tccd lower voltage is better, but my old ass CH needs quite a bit to get it up there. Thats why I'm going to get an xp-120 and a delta or something.
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 3000+?

    Quote Originally Posted by l3p3r_M355i4h
    I don't want it for the vdimm, i want it for the vcore! isn't the dfi supposed have, like 2.0vcore or somethin' I know with the tccd lower voltage is better, but my old ass CH needs quite a bit to get it up there. Thats why I'm going to get an xp-120 and a delta or something.
    I feel you bro! I am very interested in the DFI mobo myself, but I am going to give it a couple motnhs while everyone else works the kinks out and Oscar releases his much improved bios'. In the meantime I will make do with the Neo2. However, I do expect the DFI to whoop that @$$ when it arrvies!
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    Re: Buying an OC friendly A64. Is there any reason to buy anything greater than a 300

    Quote Originally Posted by sabrewolf732
    because a athlon 64 2800+ at 1.8 rapes a 3200+ xp in games. More than rapes, gives it a gang rape,

    Examples? is this the socket 939 or socket 754 you speak of. From what I read when the 64 2800 was first released there wasn't much of a diff between that and the 3200, add on the fact that most mobile xp users are running at or near 2.6 Ghz then it puts a hurting on the 64 2800+ My thoughts are a 2.6 Ghz barton core chip when coupled with a high end GPU is more than plenty to play all new games at very impressive resolutions. Wait a year and grab a dual core chip, thats what I intend on doing, but then I'm more of a value minded enthusiast and not an extreme one.
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