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    My first HTPC

    Hi, as the title says, im building my first HTPC.
    The idea is to get a HTPC that can run anything of hd material, and most newer games okay. Tho, its still important that it is as silent/cooled as possible.


    The setup is at the moment (27/11 - 07) this:

    Chassis: Silverstone SST-LC17
    PSU: Corsair HX620W
    Motherboard: Asus Maximus Formula
    CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6850
    3dcard: Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 512MB x2
    Ram: PATRIOT DD2 PC6400 4 GB (2 x 2 GB) CL5
    optical drive: Samsung SH-S203N/BEBN
    HDD: Samsung SpinPoint T166 500 GB SATA


    Decided to go for aircooling.

    Feedback at all is very welcome

    cheers, maievh
    Last edited by Maievh; 11-27-2007 at 02:05 PM.

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    Re: My first HTPC

    Do you mean a 3870? At any rate, dual cards will be no benefit for HTPC use, although it will help with cutting-edge gaming.
    The rest of the rig is more than adequate.
    Last edited by John C; 11-20-2007 at 10:50 PM.

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    Re: My first HTPC

    If you really want 4gb then I would suggest you go with a 2x2gb config instead of a 4x1gb if you don't plan to OC allot if any. 4 1gb sticks banked together can generate allot of heat in a localized area without some decent airflow. Gskill and Patriot offer some killer deals right now on 2x2gb ddr2 800 kits.

    Are you planning to crossfire two 3870's? That may be a little overkill for a htpc unless you plan on gaming at hd 1920x1080 and even then a single card may prove to be adequate in most instances.

    Without OC'ing I would also consider the ultra120 Extreme to be overkill for a stock clocked dual core but regardless its about the best air cooling you can get and should excellent cooling with a quiet fan.

    To be honest your rig is looking to be a pretty powerful main desktop style rig than what might normally be considered a htpc.
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    Re: My first HTPC

    oops, typo on the graphic's card, fixed
    I know its quite the overkill for just the HTPC part but the plan was to crossfire the 2 cards, for gaming on my 37" Samsung. Im just conserned about the heat after afew hours of gaming with the current cooling system, and at the same time im conserned about the noise level under both HTPC usage and gaming.
    But was thinking of trying with stock coolers(except for the cpu cooler that will be changed) first and monitor the system. What is a good tool for that?

    highoctane: I will take you up on the tip about the ram and change to 2 2GB modules, thanks.
    Edit: about the ram, would it be better to go for just 2GB, and pick some faster modules? since the system wont recognize more then about 3.3GB i mean.
    Last edited by Maievh; 11-21-2007 at 03:28 AM.

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    Re: My first HTPC

    Quote Originally Posted by Maievh View Post

    highoctane: I will take you up on the tip about the ram and change to 2 2GB modules, thanks.
    Edit: about the ram, would it be better to go for just 2GB, and pick some faster modules? since the system wont recognize more then about 3.3GB i mean.
    Faster modules won't really gain you much to be honest, here and there you might see a small gain but I believe the biggest advantage to faster rated ram comes from OC'ing headroom.

    CAS 4 rated ddr2 800 will give you excellent performance per dollar and will perform on par with faster rated memory at CAS 5.

    Personally I don't find the difference is really all that tangible for the most part and would say you are better off with 2x2gb CAS 5 rated ddr2 800 for the best compromise between speed and capacity.

    I have 8gb of this stuff in my Vista64 rig: http://shop2.outpost.com/product/520...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

    It was on sale last night for $99 and it seems it's dropped to $89 today with free shipping, also seems they probably sold out last night as well.

    I recently picked up 4gb of G.Skill ddr2 1000 from newegg for $150, they also have the CAS5 ddr2 800 for $119 and CAS4 ddr2 800 for $150.

    Memory is just so cheap its hard for me personally not to choose 4gb anymore unless I'm on a strict budget.
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    Re: My first HTPC

    Sounds impressive indeed.

    What kind of optical drive(s) are you using?
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    Re: My first HTPC

    thats cheap ram indeed! i have to give about 200$ for the cheapest ram found in norwegian webstores, The cheapest brands here is OCZ @ 5-6-6-18 and Corsair @ 5-5-5-18. But think i'll order from frys.com as they could send internationally.

    Same goes for optical drives, they got none blu-ray(too expensive anyway) and 1 hd-dvd to about 120-130$, so atm i've only ordered a dvd burner(Samsung SH-S203N/BEBN)
    A problem is that i've only got room for one drive in the antec case too, unless i can fit in 2 slim drives..
    Last edited by Maievh; 11-22-2007 at 05:12 PM. Reason: typo

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    Re: My first HTPC

    System updated in the first post, probably for the last time before im shopping, unless someone got something to set their finger on

    Decided to go for aircooling.
    Fans in the chassis will be:
    Front - 2x Cooltek fans (92mm), 41m/time, 12 dB(A), sucking in air
    Back - 2x Papst fans (80mm), 33m/time, 12 dB(A), blowing out air

    Fan used on the thermaltake cpu cooler:
    Cooltek fan (120mm), 65m/time, 15 dB(A)

    The PSU fan is making max 16 dB(A) (at least thats what Thermaltake claims)

    Then there is the 2 GPU fans, i dont know the noise level on these but all reviews i've read say that they aint making much noise.

    All will be connected to the motherboard (Maxiumus Formula) and regulated via its BIOS.

    So, think I will be able to get a fairly low-noise system and still keep the heat down with this setup? While watching a movie? While gaming for several hours?
    Last edited by Maievh; 11-26-2007 at 05:00 PM.

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    Re: My first HTPC

    Here are a few Items I may sugest comming from the HT and not computer side the LG Gcc-H20l hd/BR player http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136133

    with the Anydvd and HD software from Slysoft http://www.slysoft.com/en/anydvdhd.html then if you put that system on your network and burn your movies to a Ext Hd such as a WD 1TB book at 7200rpm then use the Netgear EVA800 http://www.netgear.com/Products/Ente...s/EVA8000.aspx You would have a really nice 1080 P play back of all HD and BluRay and 1080I on all reg DVDs you have saved as long as your Monitor ,Plasma or Projector can do that Res and you can add other EVA8000 in other rooms to view the same movies


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    Re: My first HTPC

    Nice choices, Joe. Darn, I see the reader drive is out @ da Egg atm.
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    Re: My first HTPC

    loudnlo1: thanks, will get that BR player once it comes for sale on norwegian webshops, none out at the moment.
    About the EVA8000, looks very neat, but its nothing i need, for now

    Edit: Thought frys.com were shipping international?

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    Re: My first HTPC

    A little update.

    Changed CPU cooler to a Noctua NH-U9F, as the TRUE were too big.
    Changed PSU to Corsair HX620W, cuz i've been told 750W is "overkill"

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    Re: My first HTPC

    Did not notice anyone else saying it but I found that any HTPC needs 2 HDD since OS should be on Own drive and all the recording on Own drive for performance.

    Doing this made my HTPC 100% better over 1 large drive.
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    Re: My first HTPC

    Good point, TI, I missed that.
    Main Rig: EVGA 141-BL-E769-A1 LGA 1366 Intel X58 CLASSIFIED/WATERCOOLED ED. cooled by the Monster Water Cooling Setup
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    Re: My first HTPC

    Finally got a hold of a GGC-H20L, shipped today
    Newegg still not showing in stock.
    Got mine from Bestbuy online, but they are also showing out of stock again.
    These things are hard to get !!

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