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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal
    You still insist its a republican thing

    Number of Starr investigation convictions or guilty pleas: 14

    Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5

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    White House staff indictments

    fact file White House staff indictments
    A brief history of indictments in recent administrations:

    Raymond J. Donovan, September 1984
    The only sitting Cabinet member in recent history to be indicted while in office was Raymond J. Donovan, President Reagan’s labor secretary. In September 1984, Donovan was indicted along with several others, accused of grand larceny in his co-ownership of a construction firm. After going on unpaid leave in October, Donovan resigned in March 1985. In 1987, a jury acquitted Donovan and his co-defendants.

    David H. Safavian, October 2005
    In October 2005, David H. Safavian, the top procurement official for President Bush, resigned. Three days later, he was arrested and indicted on five felony counts connected to criminal investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff. At the time the indictment covered, from May 2002 to January 2004, Safavian had been serving as the chief of staff at the General Services Administration. Case pending.

    Henry G. Cisneros , November 1996
    In November 1996, Henry G. Cisneros resigned from his position as President Clinton’s housing secretary. In December 1997, he was indicted on 18 counts of conspiracy, obstruction and lying to the FBI. Cisneros pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor in 1999 and was fined $10,000.

    Mike Espy, December 1994
    In December 1994, Mike Espy resigned from his position as Clinton’s agriculture secretary. In August 1997, Espy was indicted on 39 corruption counts in allegations that he had received financial gifts from Tyson Foods Inc., one of the companies his department regulated. In December 1998 Espy was acquitted on all counts.

    Billy R. Dale, May 1993
    In May 1993, White House travel office chief Billy R. Dale and his entire staff were fired by the Clinton administration. Dale was indicted in December 1994 on two counts of embezzlement and conversion after a grand jury said he pocketed up to $68,000 from media organizations traveling with the president. Dale was acquitted of all charges in November 1995.

    John M. Poindexter, November 1986
    In November 1986, John M. Poindexter resigned from his post as national security adviser to President Reagan. In March 1988, Poindexter and three others were indicted in relation to the Iran-Contra affair. Poindexter was charged with two additional counts of obstructing Congress and two counts of making false statements. He was convicted in 1990, but the charges were overturned the following year.

    Thomas C. Reed, August 1984
    In 1983, Thomas C. Reed resigned from the Reagan administration after working as a presidential assistant under National Security Adviser William P. Clark. In August 1984, he was indicted on four counts related to alleged illegal stock trading. He was acquitted in 1985.

    H.R. Haldeman, March 1974
    In April 1973, President Nixon forced White House chief of staff H.R. Haldeman, domestic affairs counsel John Ehrlichman and five other staff members to resign. In March 1974, they were indicted in connection with the Watergate cover-up. Along with several others found guilty, both Haldeman and Ehrlichman were convicted in 1975 and sentenced to 18 months in prison.
    Sources: Associated Press archives; Jimmy Carter Presidential Library and Museum.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Looks like the pesticide man will never regain his leadership position. Unless Congress let's him legislate from prison:

    Scanlon, Abramoff `Backroom Guy,' Points Probers at DeLay, Ney
    Nov. 21 (Bloomberg) -- For more than a year, Michael Scanlon has been a shadowy presence behind former partner Jack Abramoff, the Republican lobbyist at the center of a corruption probe. Now, Scanlon may help prosecutors raise the investigation to a higher level.

    Scanlon, a former aide to Representative Tom DeLay, is scheduled to appear today in U.S. District Court to present a plea bargain with the Justice Department likely to lead to his cooperation with investigators. His testimony would ratchet up the pressure on Abramoff and aid prosecutors in widening the investigation to members of Congress, such as Republicans DeLay and Representative Robert Ney of Ohio.

    Scanlon, 35, is the second person to face criminal charges in connection with the Justice Department-led probe of the 46- year-old Abramoff. In October, a federal grand jury indicted the White House's former chief procurement officer, David Safavian, once an Abramoff associate, for obstruction and making false statements.

    ``Now you have two people instead of one,'' said Stan Brand, a former counsel to the House of Representatives when it was controlled by the Democrats. ``What you're building is a ladder. You have Abramoff at the intermediate step, elected officials above him, and Scanlon and Safavian underneath.''

    Beyond the potential legal concerns, Scanlon's cooperation with authorities may spell political jeopardy for Republicans leading into next year's elections, especially if he helps draw other lawmakers into the investigation. ``He knows where all the bodies are buried,'' said a congressional aide who worked with Scanlon.

    `Representative #1'

    The Justice Department on Nov. 18 charged Scanlon with conspiring with ``Lobbyist A'' -- identified by a person close to the investigation as Abramoff -- to defraud Indian-tribe clients and corrupt federal officials. Those officials included a lawmaker identified only as ``Representative #1.''

    Ney, chairman of the House Committee on Administration, who took an Abramoff-sponsored trip to Scotland in 2002, said earlier this month that prosecutors had subpoenaed records. A spokesman for Ney, 51, said the lawmaker hasn't been told he's a target.

    Scanlon's lawyer, Stephen Braga, said his client agreed to the plea bargain to ``resolve the charge,'' declining further comment.

    As investigators get closer to Abramoff, they may also get closer to DeLay, said Craig McDonald, director of Texans for Public Justice, an Austin-based group that has called for a special prosecutor to investigate DeLay.

    `Dirt on DeLay'

    ``It's likely that Abramoff has lots of dirt on Tom DeLay,'' McDonald said. ``The further Abramoff sinks into trouble, the more likely he is to start pitching that dirt.''

    DeLay, 58, who once called the lobbyist ``one of my closest friends'' and went on an Abramoff-sponsored trip to Scotland in 2000, stepped down as House majority leader after being indicted in September in an unrelated campaign-finance case in Texas.

    Other Republican lawmakers may find themselves under scrutiny as well. Senator Conrad Burns, a Montana Republican, helped win a $3 million government award for the Saginaw Chippewa Tribe of Michigan to build a school, the Washington Post reported earlier this year. The Interior Department ruled the tribe was ineligible because its Soaring Eagle casino makes it one of the richest, the Post reported. The tribe, an Abramoff client, donated $32,000 to Burns from 2001 to 2003.


    ``The only action Senator Burns ever took was as a request from other senators,'' said his lawyer, Cleta Mitchell. ``He has absolutely no connection with Mike Scanlon.''

    Abramoff

    Though prosecutors say Scanlon shared millions of dollars in fees from Indian-tribe clients with his former associate, he has escaped the attention heaped on Abramoff, a tireless networker who organized trips abroad for lawmakers and owned a downtown restaurant where he hosted fund-raising events.

    ``There should have been a lot more written about Scanlon,'' said Melanie Sloan, a former federal prosecutor who now heads Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, an advocacy group. ``He wasn't the one taking the trips and having the meetings with members of Congress. He was the backroom guy.''

    When Illinois Republican Dennis Hastert became House speaker in 1999, he blamed Scanlon for stories surfacing in the press suggesting DeLay was the real power and the new speaker was a figurehead, according to a former Hastert aide.

    The aide, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Hastert asked DeLay to fire Scanlon. Scanlon left the congressional office shortly thereafter and eventually joined Abramoff's firm, later founding a public affairs company, Capital Campaign Strategies.

    Deriding the Tribes

    What came next was laid out by the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, which has released transcripts of hundreds of e-mails and documents during five committee hearings in the last 18 months. The e-mails are laced with derogatory references by the two men toward their tribal clients. In one December 2001 e- mail, for example, Abramoff referred to their Saginaw Chippewa clients as ``troglodytes.''

    ``What's a troglodyte?'' Scanlon asked. ``A lower form of existence, basically,'' Abramoff replied.

    Scanlon also was involved in a casino cruise company in Florida that Abramoff and a partner bought in 2000, serving as a spokesman. Abramoff was indicted on charges of fraud and conspiracy in August in connection with his purchase of the company. He pleaded not guilty.

    ``The Justice Department needs Scanlon to cooperate so they can get everything else,'' said Sloan, who served as an assistant U.S. attorney in Washington from 1998 to 2003. ``Just because he hasn't been in the media forefront doesn't mean he wasn't in the eyes of the prosecutors. I don't think they ever lost sight of Scanlon.''
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    George W. Bush <--- Al Qaeda's #1 Recruiter

    GWB - "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!"
    On Nov. 6, 1963, Laura Welch (now Bush) ran a stop sign and murdered Michael Douglas.
    republiKan values: mark foley, tom delay, jack abramoff, john rowland, duke cunningham, david safavian, bob taft, brent wilkes, james tobin, scooter libby and ernie fletcher. Poster CRIMINALS and PEDOPHILES of the repug party.
    The only two things you ever need to know about GWB:
    "The most important thing is for us to find Osama Bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - George W. Bush, 9/13/01

    "I don't know where he is. I have no idea, and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush, 3/13/02

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    potentially the worst Congressional scandal in MORE than a century:

    Corruption Inquiry Threatens to Ensnare Lawmakers
    The charges against Mr. Scanlon identified no lawmakers by name, but a summary of the case released by the Justice Department accused him of being part of a broad conspiracy to provide "things of value, including money, meals, trips and entertainment to federal public officials in return for agreements to perform official acts" - an attempt at bribery, in other words, or something close to it.
    ...
    The investigation threatens to ensnarl many outside Congress as well, including Interior Department officials and others in the Bush administration who were courted by Mr. Abramoff on behalf of the Indian tribe casinos that were his most lucrative clients.

    The inquiry has already reached into the White House; a White House budget official, David H. Safavian, resigned only days before his arrest in September on charges of lying to investigators about his business ties to Mr. Abramoff, a former lobbying partner.

    "I think this has the potential to be the biggest scandal in Congress in over a century," said Thomas E. Mann, a Congressional specialist at the Brookings Institution. "I've been around Washington for 35 years, watching Congress, and I've never seen anything approaching Abramoff for cynicism and chutzpah in proposing quid pro quos to members of Congress."
    Rut-row rorge...more problems for the gop and this corrupt criminal administration.

    George W. Bush <--- Al Qaeda's #1 Recruiter

    GWB - "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!"
    On Nov. 6, 1963, Laura Welch (now Bush) ran a stop sign and murdered Michael Douglas.
    republiKan values: mark foley, tom delay, jack abramoff, john rowland, duke cunningham, david safavian, bob taft, brent wilkes, james tobin, scooter libby and ernie fletcher. Poster CRIMINALS and PEDOPHILES of the repug party.
    The only two things you ever need to know about GWB:
    "The most important thing is for us to find Osama Bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - George W. Bush, 9/13/01

    "I don't know where he is. I have no idea, and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush, 3/13/02

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    Well dont you worry....while those pesky republicans are setting the ethics bar....weve always got "rasta man" Ray Nagin doing the Jamacian "limbo" under the bar.......lookin out for the NOLA folks best interests

    http://eurweb.com/story.cfm?id=23529


    Here is an exclisive photo of Nagin at work on the issues

    http://www.poster-site.com/data/small/glmer_PR3190.JPG

    TLR EXCLUSIVE
    MAYOR NAGIN'S TOWNHALL MEETING TRANSCRIPT

    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/b/bob-marley/21759.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrhvball
    potentially the worst Congressional scandal in MORE than a century:

    Rut-row rorge...more problems for the gop and this corrupt criminal administration.
    Never fear, jrhvball, there's plenty of trouble to go around with Abramoff. I personally hope all those engaging in shady deals get what's coming. It ought to be a long and "distinguished" list comprised of plenty of members of both major parties. Lest anyone think this is purely a Republican problem, I recalled reading about it a few months ago while in DC. Here's the article: Washington Post Article.

    Seems to me that Abramoff was a equal-opportunity leech and willing to pay any politician willing to go along.

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    1 repug down, 59 million more to go:

    Former DeLay aide pleads guilty in conspiracy case
    A former top aide to Rep. Tom DeLay on Monday became the first person convicted in a two-year fraud and bribery probe involving Indian tribes, lobbyists and public officials.


    Michael Scanlon, the Texas Republican's former press secretary, pleaded guilty in federal court to one count of conspiring to offer bribes to public officials and defraud tribal clients of his public relations firm.


    In a plea agreement, Scanlon agreed to assist prosecutors investigating the activities of his business partner, lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and their dealings with members of Congress and the Bush administration. (Related item: Scanlon's plea agreement)


    Scanlon also agreed to make $19.7 million in restitution to the four tribes he defrauded, in Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas and Michigan. All of the tribes had sought lobbying help in Washington for their gambling operations.


    Sentencing guidelines call for up to five years in prison for the offense, but U.S. District Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle could reduce that if the government attests to the 35-year-old Scanlon's cooperation.


    In a written statement, Scanlon told the court he and Abramoff provided travel, golf outings, "frequent meals," entertainment, campaign contributions and jobs for officials and their relatives, in exchange for "a series of official acts and influence," which is forbidden by law.


    The favors included a 2002 golf trip to Scotland for an unnamed member of Congress, and other trips, meals and entertainment for the lawmaker and his staff. Mark Tuohey, an attorney for Rep. Bob Ney (news, bio, voting record), R-Ohio, has acknowledged that his client is that congressman.


    Ney is chairman of the House Administration Committee, a position that gives him jurisdiction over the office space, parking, and expense accounts of his fellow House members and the informal title of "Mayor of the House."


    Favors to Ney included "frequent golf and related expenses" at Washington, D.C.-area courses, "regular meals and drinks" at a restaurant owned by the lobbyist on Pennsylvania Avenue and a $10,000 contribution to the National Republican Congressional Committee, given at Ney's request, Scanlon said.


    "The level of specificity in this plea agreement should be at least disquieting for the congressman," said Kenneth Gross, an attorney who specializes in ethics issues. But it's unclear "whether they are gunning for him," Gross said.


    Ney's spokesman, Brian Walsh, said nothing Ney did was the result of any "improper influence." Walsh said Ney was "one of many people defrauded" by Scanlon.


    It was unclear, as well, whether other members of Congress might be caught up in the probe. Scanlon's former boss, DeLay, also took a golf trip to Scotland arranged by Abramoff and apparently paid for by his lobbying clients. DeLay recently was forced to step down from his post as House majority leader because of an unrelated indictment in his home state. (Related items: DeLay money-laundering indictment | DeLay conspiracy indictment)


    The investigation also has resulted in the indictment of David Safavian, who was the Bush administration's top procurement official at the White House Office of Management and Budget.


    In a criminal complaint filed last week, the Justice Department said Scanlon collected nearly $53 million from 2001 to 2004 from three Indian tribes, promising them lobbying and public relations services. Most of the money went instead into the pockets of Scanlon and Abramoff, the complaint said.


    Abramoff was not named in the complaint, but Scanlon's partnership with him has been revealed in a series of hearings in the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, where e-mails between the two described a financial scheme they called "Gimme five."


    In a 2001 memo, for example, Scanlon proposed a $3.2 million project for the Louisiana Coushatta tribe that he said would make the tribe "a politician's best friend - or worst political nightmare." The program was to include political research, polling and building a political database, but there is little evidence the work ever was done.
    delay and co. are gonna need a MUCH BIGGER legal defense fund. :lol:
    George W. Bush <--- Al Qaeda's #1 Recruiter

    GWB - "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!"
    On Nov. 6, 1963, Laura Welch (now Bush) ran a stop sign and murdered Michael Douglas.
    republiKan values: mark foley, tom delay, jack abramoff, john rowland, duke cunningham, david safavian, bob taft, brent wilkes, james tobin, scooter libby and ernie fletcher. Poster CRIMINALS and PEDOPHILES of the repug party.
    The only two things you ever need to know about GWB:
    "The most important thing is for us to find Osama Bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - George W. Bush, 9/13/01

    "I don't know where he is. I have no idea, and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush, 3/13/02

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    Democrats trying to bury Republicans in the world of corruption must feel like this salmon I have here on my desk

    http://msnbc.com/c/0/66/504/10x7/020304_poy_03.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal


    Democrats trying to bury Republicans in the world of corruption must feel like this salmon I have here on my desk

    http://msnbc.com/c/0/66/504/10x7/020304_poy_03.jpg

    ^^^ I keep telling the Left to take a long hard look in the mirror before tossing accusations about. Then I remember they do not cast reflections....
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    But what to do, build more prisons or let some of dems out early for... good behaviour....err, my bad we need to discuss something thats within the realm of reality.
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    Main Rig (BOINC Rig #1)
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Abbey
    A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.

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    Main Rig (BOINC Rig #1)
    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Abbey
    A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.

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    GOP Lawmakers Float Ethics Probe of Murtha

    Republican lawmakers say that ties between Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.) and his brother’s lobbying firm, KSA Consulting, may warrant investigation by the House ethics committee.

    The calls come as Murtha, a former Marine and pro-military Democrat, has made headlines this week by coming out in support of a rapid withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq.

    According to a June 13 article in The Los Angeles Times, the fiscal 2005 defense appropriations bill included more than $20 million in funding for at least 10 companies for whom KSA lobbied. Carmen Scialabba, a longtime Murtha aide, works at KSA as well.

    KSA directly lobbied Murtha’s office on behalf of seven companies, and a Murtha aide told a defense contractor that it should retain KSA to represent it, according to the LA Times.

    In early 2004, Murtha reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. A company called Lennar Inc. had right to the land, and Laurence Pelosi, nephew to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), was an executive with the firm at that time.

    Murtha also inserted earmarks in defense bills that steered millions of dollars in federal research funds toward companies owned by children of fellow Pennsylvania Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D).

    House Republican Joe Wilson of South Carolina said, “If there is a potential pattern where Congressman Murtha has helped other Democrats secure appropriations that also benefited relatives of those Members, I believe this would be something that merits further review by the ethics committee.”

    Another GOP lawmaker, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said Murtha “is playing footsie with his brother’s lobbying firm using taxpayer money.”

    This Member said Republicans have considered filing an ethics complaint against Murtha, although the preference among GOP insiders is for the ethics committee to look into this issue on its own authority, as it did in the previous Congress in initiating an investigation into former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas).

    Even some Democrats privately acknowledged that a preliminary probe of Murtha by the ethics panel is possible next year, although the chances of a full-blown investigation are still unclear.

    Of course, a Pelosi aide was quick to blame this whole thing on Republicans.

    Jennifer Crider, a Pelosi aide, dismissed the allegation that the Minority Leader was involved in anything improper as “absolutely ludicrous, and an attempt to divert from the real issue that Mr. Murtha is attempting to engage in debate on a critically important topic — U.S. policy in Iraq. The real story here is the Republican strategy to try to discredit at Congressman Murtha” while he is pushing for a U.S. pullout from Iraq.

    Republicans acknowledge that Murtha’s Iraq statement — coming from a Member with strong military credentials — is driving their renewed focus on the ethics questions surrounding the veteran Democratic lawmaker.

    It certainly does put his past hawkish stance in perspective...
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal


    Democrats trying to bury Republicans in the world of corruption must feel like this salmon I have here on my desk

    http://msnbc.com/c/0/66/504/10x7/020304_poy_03.jpg
    Oh, you mean like Dukey here:

    Rep. Cunningham Enters Guilty Plea, Resigns
    Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham (R-Calif.) pleaded guilty today to fraud, conspiracy to commit bribery and tax evasion. Shortly after entering his plea, Cunningham announced that he is immediately resigning his seat, though he had already announced that he would not seek reelection next year.

    Republican Congressman Randy "Duke" Cunningham reads a statement announcing his resignation outside the federal courthouse in San Diego on Monday. (AP)According to The Associated Press, Cunningham admitted "he took $2.4 million in bribes to steer defense contracts to conspirators." He is scheduled to be sentenced on Feb. 27. FindLaw.com has copies of the charges filed against Cunningham and his plea agreement.

    Cunningham's resignation triggers a special election. Under California law, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) has 14 days to officially declare the seat vacant. The special general election must be scheduled between 112 and 119 days after Schwarzenegger's original proclamation, with an open primary to be held on the eighth Tuesday before the general-election date. If no candidate secures 50 percent of the vote in the open primary, the top vote-getter from each major party advances to the general election.
    Yet another repug guilty as charged.
    George W. Bush <--- Al Qaeda's #1 Recruiter

    GWB - "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job!"
    On Nov. 6, 1963, Laura Welch (now Bush) ran a stop sign and murdered Michael Douglas.
    republiKan values: mark foley, tom delay, jack abramoff, john rowland, duke cunningham, david safavian, bob taft, brent wilkes, james tobin, scooter libby and ernie fletcher. Poster CRIMINALS and PEDOPHILES of the repug party.
    The only two things you ever need to know about GWB:
    "The most important thing is for us to find Osama Bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." - George W. Bush, 9/13/01

    "I don't know where he is. I have no idea, and I really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." - George W. Bush, 3/13/02

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    ^^You think Im gonna defend that weasel? Im not. No more than you will defend this:


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