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    airline safety and man gunned down...

    http://news.yahoo.com/fc/business/aviation_security

    Air Marshal Kills Passenger, Citing Threat
    AP - 38 minutes ago

    MIAMI - An agitated passenger who claimed to have a bomb in his backpack was shot and killed by a federal air marshal Wednesday after he bolted frantically from a jetliner that was about to take off, officials said. No bomb was found. The man, identified as Rigobert Alpizar, a 44-year-old U.S. citizen, was gunned down on a jetway just before the American Airlines plane was about to leave for Orlando.


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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    Old lesson: Dont yell "fire" in a crowded theater
    New lesson: Dont say you have a "bomb" while boarding or exiting a plane.

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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal
    New lesson: Dont say you have a "bomb" while boarding or exiting a plane.
    Add to that "refuse to obey an air marshall's commands, and then reach into your bag after being ordered to the ground."

    If you do, then expect to get shot.

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    ^^True. I forgot this as well: If you have a bipolar disorder, remember to take meds prior to a plane flight.

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    Selfownage

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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    Supposedly he was a "Missionary" just returning from a working vacation....sheesh I'll spare the rant here.....but the line is fine between a terrorist and this nutcase. Not a whole lotta difference in their psychological make-up IMO.

    I feel a bit sorry for his wife. But he deserved what he got and moreover... the message it sends might possibly deter future terrorists....

    As for the Air Marshall - Great shooting! :-P Keep up the good work!
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    I think the air marshalls did their job well. I sure hope that if a passanger says he has a bomb and reaches into his bag that he would be shot and killed instantly. This only shows how vigilant the airmarshalls are against terrorists. Good job to them.

    Too bad for them they will probablly be sued and fired. Atleast they put a moron outta commision.

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    ..hate to see that guy gunned dwon like an animal,but if i were in the marshall's shoes..one guy against 100 or whatever...mm..tough choice...i wouldve prolly shot him in the leg or arm first tough...
    dan

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    In this, or in a personal self defense situation, you do NOT shoot for a leg or an arm. When you have to shoot someone, you always aim for center of mass, ie torso.
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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    Quote Originally Posted by _dangtx_
    ..hate to see that guy gunned dwon like an animal,but if i were in the marshall's shoes..one guy against 100 or whatever...mm..tough choice...i wouldve prolly shot him in the leg or arm first tough...
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    In situations like these you really do have to go for the kill rather than just injuring the potential bomber. The reason for this is that shooting a leg or even something as crucial as the torso may not deter someone who is determined to do detonate an explosive on a plane for whatever reason.

    It's messed up that the guy had to die but you can't really put any blame on the marshalls. Though the event was tragic hopefully it makes people know that there are other people watching over them. This was very unfortunate.



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    Its amazing what the press makes the focus. Here is one that caught my eye

    'Good neighbour' shot dead in terror's glare

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/...829721344.html

    I expect the suggestions today....how we should change the rules. That somehow this will be a "fault" of some sort in the system.
    Shame this had to happen...but its the reality we need to live with.

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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuc_E
    In this, or in a personal self defense situation, you do NOT shoot for a leg or an arm. When you have to shoot someone, you always aim for center of mass, ie torso.
    Yes and with a 9mm pistol you'd have to shoot them multiple times to bring them down anyway.

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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    Quote Originally Posted by Enmore
    Yes and with a 9mm pistol you'd have to shoot them multiple times to bring them down anyway.
    I disagree. But that's another discussion altogether.
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    Re: airline safety and man gunned down...

    I don't see how you can complain about the press on this one. The guy did seem like an all around nice guy and you can't really fault people for not wanting to speak ill of the dead. It was an unfortunate situation. Do you think they should have painted him as some evil terrorist? What exactly should the news people say about it?

    "That somehow this will be a "fault" of some sort in the system." We an innocent guy was shot. Were he not shot and just punished, he really wouldn't have been facing a capital type offense. It is a flaw in the system. It may or may not be fixable, but the point of the air marshalls being on board was not to shoot people who freak out in enclosed spaces.

    What to me is odd is that the marshall didn't stick his/her foot out from their first class seat to trip up the guy as he ran by. That's where they always sit by the way. Depending upon whether or not they like a bulkhead, they'll always be in business/first class aisle. On a 747, they'll be up top in the most coveted seat on the plane. It's an unfortunate situation. It's easy for anyone on a website to say the shooting was warranted or not, but until all the facts are evaluated, it is pure speculation.

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