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  1. #196
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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    Of course it wont by itself...solve the issues that face the people there.
    But its a pretty fair start. And they will need to work at it. Its gotta be a conscious choice...rely on the rule of law to solve issues or pick up a machine gun or strap on a belt filled with explosives and nails.

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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Trekari
    Let's not forget that these people have been fighting each other for THOUSANDS of years. Democracy in the various countries is hardly going to stop the hatred.
    I'd trust Orang's recollection on this more than my own, but I'd say yours is a fairly common misconception. The majority of the past two thousand years the area has fallen under the rule of various powers at various times, but generally speaking those *not* in power have simply gone on with lives rather than sowing continuous strife. Really only in the past fifty years or so, and particularly in the past twenty has it become routine for folks to seek out civilian targets.

    I'm not trying to say things have been rosy or anything, but the undercurrent of warfare hasn't always existed. There's a difference between not being thrilled with the statu quo versus terrorist activities passing for the norm.

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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    This sorta goes to a point by tweedle dee and tweedle dumb on our Supreme Court.
    I would ask the experienced military strategists at the Supreme Court how they justify extending Geneva Concentions [#3 Common Articles] to these rancid characters

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...279058,00.html

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    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl..._Strategy&only

    [snip]

    WASHINGTON ó There is crisis and there is opportunity. Amid the general wringing of hands over the seemingly endless and escalating Israel-Hezbollah fighting, everyone asks: Where will it end?

    The answer, blindingly clear, begins with understanding that this crisis represents a rare, perhaps irreproducible, opportunity.

    Every important party in the region and in the world, except the radical Islamists in Tehran and their clients in Damascus, wants Hezbollah disarmed and removed from south Lebanon so that it is no longer able to destabilize the peace of both Lebanon and the broader Middle East.

    Which parties? Start with the great powers. In September 2004, they passed U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559, demanding that Hezbollah disarm and allow the Lebanese army to take back control of south Lebanon.

    The resolution enjoyed the sponsorship of the United States and, yes, France. As the former mandatory power in Lebanon, France was important in helping the Lebanese expel Syria during last yearís Cedar Revolution, but it understands that Lebanonís independence and security are forfeit so long as Hezbollah ó a lawless, terrorist, private militia answering to Syria and Iran ó occupies south Lebanon as a rogue mini-state.

    Then there are the Arabs, beginning with the Lebanese who want Hezbollah out. The majority of Lebanese ó Christian, Druze, Sunni Muslim and secular ó bitterly resent their country being hijacked by Hezbollah and turned into a war zone. And in the name of what Lebanese interest? Israel evacuated every square inch of Lebanon six years ago.

    The other Arabs have spoken, too. In a stunning development, the 22-member Arab League criticized Hezbollah for provoking the current crisis. It is unprecedented for the Arab League to criticize any Arab party while it is actively engaged in hostilities with Israel. But the Arab states know that Hezbollah, a Shiite militia in the service of Persian Iran, is a threat not just to Lebanon but to them as well. Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Jordan have openly criticized Hezbollah for starting a war on what is essentially Iranís timetable (to distract attention from Iranís pending referral to the Security Council for sanctions over its nuclear program). They are far more worried about Iran and its proxies than about Israel. They are therefore eager to see Hezbollah disarmed and defanged.

    Fine. Everyone agrees it must be done. But who to do it? No one. The Lebanese are too weak. The Europeans donít invade anyone. After its bitter experience of 20 years ago, the U.S. has a Lebanon allergy. And Israel could not act out of the blue because it would immediately have been branded the aggressor and forced to retreat.

    Hence the golden, unprecedented opportunity.


    ^^^Again reinforcing what weve stated here several times. The moderate Arab States have has enough as well.
    Last edited by jimzinsocal; 07-20-2006 at 04:10 PM.

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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    Also goes to supercat's looking for some good news [if there is any]
    This change is huge. That Arab States would coindemn Herzbullah. Squarely assign the responsibolity to them.

    ^^Thats part of a Docta Krauthammer piece thats also at realclear politics if you prefer.
    Hes the strange looking guy on Fox News sometimes that sorta has that "strangelove" persona.
    [its just cause he is paralized..not that hes nuts]
    Last edited by jimzinsocal; 07-20-2006 at 04:25 PM.

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