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  1. #16
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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    The victim crap isnt gonna fly. Nobody buys it anymore.
    But we have Syria and Iran backing and controlling the nuts.
    Now its real active.
    So does this suck away the nuts from Iraq? So far as the foreign fighters go?
    They now have a better war to fight?
    What a plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal
    The victim crap isnt gonna fly. Nobody buys it anymore.
    But we have Syria and Iran backing and controlling the nuts.
    Now its real active.
    So does this suck away the nuts from Iraq? So far as the foreign fighters go?
    They now have a better war to fight?
    What a plan.
    The terrorists in Iraq have more on their plate then they can handle already. If they wanna pull up and go after Israel I say ... good luck with that. Israel has the right idea about border security and knows how to deal with these guys. The terrorists are not gonna win in either instance. Stay, go, whatever. The end result is the same, their eventual death.. which is fine by me.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    You are one of those cruel neocons huh. ^^You set up rules and actually hold countries responsible when they screw up I bet.
    I bet you think North Korea should hold true to the agreements from 1994 also. That we shouldnt bend over and ask "are you done?"...and then dance away and ask the UN what to do.
    You hardliners are all alike. No break for terrorists/

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    Uh oh. I see Clement looking. I bet he has his finger on the red button and is about to launch

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal
    You are one of those cruel neocons huh. ^^You set up rules and actually hold countries responsible when they screw up I bet.
    I bet you think North Korea should hold true to the agreements from 1994 also. That we shouldnt bend over and ask "are you done?"...and then dance away and ask the UN what to do.
    You hardliners are all alike. No break for terrorists/

    LOL, wunderkraut has a pretty good rant going:

    [QUOTE]
    Hey Palestinians, reality can be a bitch at times.

    Remember back when you were fake “refugees”? Those were the days. You could kill Israelis at will. You could launch rockets to your hearts content. You could blow up as many women and children as you cared to.

    But.

    Having your own government and “country” brings all kinds of responsibilities. When you blow those responsibilities off and elect a bunch of terrorists and then start attacking a sovereign country, guess what? The other country is going to fight back and has the right to under “International Law”. No one cares that they are killing you guys. You had your chance and you blew it. You poked the hornets nest one to many times and now you will pay the price.

    Roll Israel. Roll.

    Finish this fight so there can be peace.
    The Hamas-led Palestinian government told its security forces Thursday to fight Israeli troops moving into Gaza.

    Interior Ministry spokesman Khaled Abu Hilal said all Palestinian security forces had received orders to join the resistance against ongoing Israeli military incursions. It was unclear how many of those forces would answer the call.

    Yeah, how’s that going to work out for you? Also notice the nice spin there. “Israeli military incursions.” How about Israeli military retaliation for unprovoked attacks on its citizens by Hamas? That sounds much better to me.
    “Israeli tanks are outside our house. Children are screaming and the house is shaking. We are caught in the crossfire,” one woman told a local radio station, according to Reuters.

    Boo-freakin-hoo.

    Here’s an idea, leave Israel alone, accept the land you have and DON’T elect terrorists to run the government. Also, I wonder if that lady was dancing in the street when scores of innocent Israeli women and children were murdered when a bomb went off at a pizzeria? Click on the link and look at the faces of the victims and explain to me why I should feel bad for the Palestinians.


    Brutal honesty... we could use a bit more of that IMHO.
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    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    The Security Council has struggled for almost two weeks on how to respond to Israel's offensive in Gaza. An earlier draft from Qatar was rejected because several members of the council said it was too biased against Israel.
    That's the UN for ya... sitting in their circle jerk... diplomats my arse.

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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    Hello fan, this is sh*t nice to meet ya!!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5175160.stm

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    Re: Israel calling up reserve troops

    The 400lb gorilla is angry and looking for blood. Now we see just how crazy these little chimps are, if they're smarter they'll run for the high branches.

    WWIII, still up in the air. As long as everyone else is smart enough to stay out of it, nope. Europe (though they hate Israel) doesn't have the balls. Russia probably doesn't have the intent. The US, well we know Israel can handle it just fine all alone. We may have to do some diplo work to ease Russias' fears if they get worried about the oil.

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    The usual terrorist tact... they stir up the shit and when the people they attack respond in kind they throw their own under the bus to rally the zealots.

    F-them. F-them right where they eat. I'd be content to sit back and watch Israel solve both problems at the same time. They have the wherewithal and motivation. I'm sure by now they do not give a flying fck about the UN, it's limp •••• sanctions or anti-Israel politics. WWIII... I doubt it. Even those who claim to support the Palestinians are not dumb enough to start any shit with the worlds superpowers over them. Who's gonna step up? Syria... Iran..?? They'll talk up a storm... that's about the extent of their commitment I'd imagine.

    Thinking along the same lines as mostholycerebus, Darwin will win-out here. The dangerous monkies not smart enough to head for high ground are gonna get mashed. And it's about damn time... My2c.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Israel can handle Lebanon and Palestine on their own. US has to keep an eye on Iran incase they decide to test their missiles on Israel. If Iran, Syria, or any other arab country makes a move against Israel at the moment, then US will have to step in, regardless of whatever UN draft comes up.

    I like that cartoon on the Hamas, so freaking true.

    That's another thing. They say there's more it, blah, blah, blah. that Israel is the bad-guy here and Hamas and the other rats are just victims of the oppressor. That's ••••••••.

    Just let the long biblical hatred against the jews hopefully end once and for all. Lets just hope Israel comes out the victor. Rather it be them than Muslims. My2c

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    So lets see. Now Israel has bombed the airport and has naval blocades. And the Palestinians still have the soldier.
    And the rockets go back and forth

    Reuters and The Associated Press report that rockets fired from Lebanon have hit the northern Israeli town of Safed. AP reports seven wounded. CNN working to confirm.

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    Lebanon, and Palestine wanted this. See how much bad press Israel is getting now because of their actions? That is what the arab countries want and have been successful in doing so in the pas 15years. Nothing but a smear campaign to make Israel look like a devil-jew. Basic anti-semitism.

    If USA, Russia, UK, etc. were to listen to other countries on what it can and cannot do, then these super powers wouldn't exist, so why should Israel listen to the other countries and not defend itself on principle? Because if it doesn't then these rats can continue using human shields to make them look like angels when infact these groups aren't no more than facist zealots wanting absolute power over the region and ultimately the world.

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    If this were true and the soldiers turned up in Iran...

    Israel: Hezbollah plans to move abducted IDF soldiers to Iran

    Israel: Hezbollah plans to move abducted IDF soldiers to Iran
    By Amos Harel and Jack Khoury, Haaretz Correspondents

    Israel has concrete evidence that Hezbollah plans to transfer the two Israel Defense Forces soldiers abducted Wednesday to Iran, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said Thursday.

    "We have concrete evidence that Hezbollah plans to transfer the kidnapped soldiers to Iran. As a result, Israel views Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Iran as the main players in the axis of terror and hate that endangers not only Israel, but the entire world," AFP quoted Deputy Director General of the Foreign Ministry Gideon Meir as saying.

    An Al-Jazeera correspondent said Thursday that he had evidence that the two soldiers - identified Thursday as Ehud Goldwasser, 31, of Nahariya, and Eldad Regev, 26, of Kiryat Motzkin - were alive during the abduction. He said they were transferred to a Shi'ite mosque in a nearby town, where the abductors changed clothes. According to the report, one of the soldiers was transferred in a cab, to make it difficult for Israeli intelligence to locate him. The Al-Jazeera correspondent stressed that he had received the information from a source close to Hezbollah, and that members of the organization refuse to disclose more information with nothing in return.

    Eight IDF soldiers were also killed in a series of Hezbollah assaults on the northern border Wednesday. Another five soldiers and five civilians were wounded in the attacks.

    Israel responded with massive aerial attacks on targets throughout Lebanon.

    The fighting began at about 9:00 A.M., when a group of reserve soldiers in two armored jeeps was conducting a routine patrol of the border. As the jeeps passed between Moshav Zarit and Moshav Shtula, Hezbollah attacked.

    An initial inquiry revealed that the Hezbollah operatives had crossed the border earlier via a "dead zone" in the border fence not visible from any of the IDF observation posts. There are dozens of similar "dead zones" along the northern border, though the IDF said that observation cameras to cover this particular spot were due to be installed next week. The assailants may have used a wheeled ladder to climb over the fence.

    The operatives hid themselves in an overgrown wadi about 200 meters on the Israeli side of the fence and waited until the IDF troops arrived, whereupon they attacked, apparently with a combination of explosives and anti-tank missiles.

    Three soldiers were killed during the initial assault, while one soldier was seriously wounded, another lightly wounded and a third suffered a shrapnel scratch. In addition, the assailants kidnapped the two soldiers. According to the IDF, Hezbollah probably had an escape vehicle waiting on the other side of the fence. The entire incident took no more than 10 minutes, and the Israeli soldiers apparently never fired a shot.

    Ambush and diversionary attack
    Simultaneously with this ambush, Hezbollah also launched a diversionary attack: a barrage of mortar shells and Katyusha rockets on communities and IDF outposts in the western part of the border area. That assault wounded five civilians, though none seriously: Some were lightly wounded, and the others suffered from shock.

    As soon as this barrage began, the Galilee Division conducted a routine check to ensure that all army outposts and vehicles were still in contact with headquarters, and quickly discovered that contact had been lost with the two jeeps patrolling near Zarit. Both jeeps had been damaged in the Hezbollah assault. A rescue force was summoned to the scene, and when it arrived, about half an hour after the attack, it found the two damaged jeeps and the dead and wounded soldiers. The rescue force soon realized that two of the soldiers had been kidnapped and sent out an alert.

    Due in part to the lessons learned from the abduction of Corporal Gilad Shalit less than three weeks earlier, a force of tanks and armored personnel carriers was immediately sent into Lebanon in hot pursuit. It was during this pursuit, at about 11:00 A.M., that the second deadly incident occurred: A Merkava tank drove over a powerful bomb, containing an estimated 200 to 300 kilograms of explosives, about 70 meters north of the border fence. The tank was almost completely destroyed, and all four crew members were killed instantly.

    Over the next several hours, IDF soldiers waged a fierce fight against Hezbollah gunmen as the soldiers tried to extricate the damaged tank, in order to recover the bodies and to keep Hezbollah from stealing it. During the course of this battle, at about 3:00 P.M., another soldier was killed and two were lightly wounded. As of press time Wednesday night, however, the tank had still not been extracted.

    Due to the force of the bomb, only bits and pieces of the soldiers' bodies are likely to be found inside.

    The damaged tank did not have armored plating on its belly; most tanks with such protection are stationed on the Gaza border. However, tank officers said that due to the size of the bomb, such plating would still not have saved the soldiers' lives.

    The fighting continued throughout the day, with Hezbollah gunmen repeatedly trying to attack army outposts along the border. At the Oranit outpost near Rosh Hanikra, soldiers killed one Hezbollah operative; other Hezbollah gunmen were apparently killed during an assault on the Dvoranit outpost. The IDF suffered no casualties during these battles.

    In response to the Hezbollah onslaught, the IDF attacked dozens of targets throughout Lebanon, including Hezbollah outposts and several bridges over the Awali River. According to the IDF, all Hezbollah outposts along the border were destroyed. The bombing, which included targets in central and northern Lebanon, apparently caused multiple Lebanese casualties.

    According to GOC Northern Command Udi Adam, the IDF had no intelligence warnings of the Hezbollah attack. After Shalit was kidnapped, he said, the army decided to up the alert level in the north for fear of a similar attack, but a few days ago, the alert was lowered again.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Poke the dog with a stick...poke the dog with a stick...Waaa, the dog bite me.

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