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  1. #181
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    Manhunt follows Taliban jail attack The Taliban blew open the Kandahar jail with suicide blasts before shooting the security guards [AFP]

    A hunt is under way for more than 870 prisoners who escaped from a jail in southern Afghanistan after Taliban fighters blew it open, killing 15 security guards.

    The Taliban claimed 400 fighters escaped after the raid in the city of Kandahar late on Friday.

    A suicide-bomb blast preceded a fierce gun attack on the prison guards.

    A state of emergency has been declared in the southern Afghan province of the same name.

    Mohammad Qasim Hashimzai, the Afghan deputy justice minister, said the Taliban spent two months planning the raid and it was their most sophisticated yet.

    "A massive operation is under way to find the escaped inmates," Hashimzai told the AFP news agency.


    "The Afghan security forces are searching for them within the city and along the main and secondary roads."


    None of the escaped inmates have been caught yet, Hashimzai said.
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    Afghan President Threatens to Send Troops Into Pakistan By VOA News
    15 June 2008


    Afghan President Hamid KarzaiAfghan President Hamid Karzai has threatened to send troops into neighboring Pakistan, saying his country has the right to do so out of self-defense.

    He said in a news conference Sunday that Afghanistan has the right to destroy terrorist hideouts across the border because militants come from Pakistan to kill Afghan and coalition troops.

    The Afghan leader said Pakistan-based Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud should know that, as Mr. Karzai put it, "we will go after him now and hit him in his house." Mr. Karzai gave the same warning for Taliban leader Mullah Omar.

    In Pakistan, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said his country will not allow anyone to interfere in its internal affairs.
    I thought that was our job to interfere in the internal affairs...
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

  3. #183
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    ^^anyone else smell something fishy with the attack and subsequent
    escape of all the prisoners? Like someone was looking the other way?
    The execution seems "too perfect"

  4. #184
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    Daily routine is the soldiers friend and enemy. If they fell into a routine they my aswell have put up a big sign saying hit me. At the same time they should always be looking for anything abnormal in the locals daily routine.

    Sounds like the gaurds messed up to me but on the other hand it could have been a case of them not standing a chance.

  5. #185
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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapc...tan/index.html

    KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (CNN) -- Hundreds of Taliban fighters have taken over several villages in the same southern Afghanistan province where about 400 Taliban militants recently escaped from prison, local officials and police said.

    About 400 to 500 Taliban militants were seen streaming into the Arghandab district of the Kandahar province late Sunday night on motor bikes and pickup trucks, said Haji Aka Jan, a tribal elder in the district.

    Abdul Wali Karzai, younger brother of Afghan President Hamid Karzai and head of the provincial council, also said a large number of militants entered the district, and Afghan and NATO forces were preparing to come into the area.

    Reports varied on how many villages were taken. Taliban fighters have taken at least 5 villages and could have taken as many as 13, locals said...
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    8 Terrorists Killed By Lack Of Due Process And A Combination Of One Hellfire Missile And Many, Many 30MM Rounds



    NATO, Afghan forces kill 35 Taliban in huge offensive

    ARGHANDAB, Afghanistan (AFP) — Afghan and NATO troops backed by helicopter gunships killed 35 Taliban rebels Wednesday in a huge "clean-up" operation to drive out militants entrenched in villages near Kandahar.

    Two Afghan soldiers also died in the offensive in southern Arghandab district, which was launched after a burst of insurgent activity including a mass rebel jailbreak in Kandahar that embarrassed President Hamid Karzai.

    The operation began as the deaths of six NATO soldiers were announced elsewhere in Afghanistan. Four were British soldiers, reportedly including the country's first female casualty in the war-ravaged country.

    An AFP reporter saw helicopters swooping low overhead as Canadian armoured vehicles pushed into the centre of Arghandab, a lush area surrounded by pomegranate orchards considered a strategic prize by the rebels.

    A Taliban spokesman told AFP that the hardline movement's fighters -- hundreds of whom swarmed into the district on Monday evening -- wanted to capture it in order to launch attacks on Kandahar itself.

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    ^^^ Now there's justice for you.

  8. #188
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    US Troops Reduce "Carbon Footprint" of 55 Taliban and Three "Key" Leaders to Zero By Providing Them with Solar-Electric Cars and Precision-Guided Death, But Mostly Precision-Guided Death

    Maggots and flesh-eating vermin announced their "deepest satisfaction" with the aggressive moves to increase the size of their natural habitat.

    US-led forces have killed 55 militants in Afghanistan during a three-day operation near the Pakistani border, the US military reported on Monday.

    Three “key Taliban leaders” were also killed in these battles, the report said.

    Meanwhile, the US media reported on Monday that Nato forces in Afghanistan also shelled guerillas in Pakistan in two separate episodes on Sunday.

    A statement issued by the coalition forces said the operations began on June 20 when coalition forces were ambushed in the eastern province of Paktika.

    The coalition repulsed that attack with small-arms fire, and then pursued the militants over the next two days, backed by air strikes, the military said. Twenty-five militants were wounded and three were captured, it said.

    In a separate news report, the Pentagon said that on June 21, coalition forces conducted precision air strikes in Afghanistan’s Khost province, targeting a Taliban commander involved with improvised explosive devices, foreign-fighter operations and weapons smuggling.
    Other "militants" volunteered for the carbon-reduction program by attacking coalition troops. Troops responded by providing headshots of Leonardo DiCaprio and headshots of bullets, but mostly headshots of bullets.
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    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...ney/index.html

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States has not accurately tracked about $6 billion it gave to help the Pakistani government fight terrorism since 2001, according to a report released Tuesday.

    Pakistan is the largest recipient of payments from the Coalition Support Funds, which gives money to 27 partner countries to help combat terrorism.

    The country, which the Department of Defense considers a key ally in the war on terrorism because of its proximity to large swaths of ungoverned tribal land, has received $5.56 billion of $6.88 billion given out since September 11, 2001.

    But a report released Tuesday by the Government Accountability Office and the House Committee on Foreign Affairs said the Coalition Support Funds cannot prove that the money went to projects or operations specifically fighting terrorists.

    While calling the program critical to the war on terrorism, the GAO found numerous concerns about the accuracy of the Pakistani accounting.

    "As a result, we conclude that Defense cannot accurately determine how much of the $5.56 billion in costs reimbursed to Pakistan since 2001 were actually incurred," the report said...
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    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,372883,00.html

    ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — A gang of Pakistani militants executed two alleged U.S. spies in front of thousands of cheering supporters Friday as a top U.N. official expressed fears that Pakistani government peace deals with the gunmen were sparking a wave of human rights abuses.

    At least 5,000 people gathered by a stream in the Bajur region to watch the executions, which highlighted the power of local Taliban forces in the lawless tribal areas near the Afghan border...
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    How stupid are these people?

    The crowd erupted in cheers of "God is great!" and gunmen fired in the air in jubilation. The celebratory gunfire killed two bystanders and wounded six, local official Fazal Rabbi said.
    That's pretty friggin stupid. Apparently 'God' thinks so too.
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    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...-Operation.php

    KHYBER AGENCY, Pakistan: Pakistani forces blew up a militant leader's headquarters and pounded other suspected Taliban bases with mortar fire Saturday, as authorities launched a major offensive against gunmen operating in the volatile region along the Afghan border.

    The offensive in the Khyber tribal region appeared a shift in strategy by Pakistan's new government, backing its calls for peace deals in the tribal areas with the threat of forceful action against militants who get out of line.

    The United States has said such deals give militants the freedom to regroup for attacks on U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan. With growing militant threats to the nearby Pakistani city of Peshawar — and to the key Khyber supply route for U.S. forces in Afghanistan — Pakistan took action...
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    Air attacks kill 33 insurgents in Afghanistan
    Helicopters, bomber hit groups carrying machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades


    Helicopters and a bomber attacked insurgents massing in eastern Afghanistan under cover of darkness, killing an estimated 33 people, the U.S.-led coalition said Tuesday.

    Reconnaissance aircraft spotted "large groupings" of insurgents armed with heavy machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades Monday night in Khost province, the coalition said.

    "After positively identifying the militants, coalition forces engaged them with attack helicopters and a close air support bomber, killing approximately 33 militants," spokesman 1st Lt. Nathan Perry said.

    Fighting between militants and security forces is intensifying in the southern half of Afghanistan. More than 2,100 people died in the violence in the first six months, according to an Associated Press tally.

    An Afghan army officer said the clash in Khost began when Taliban militants attacked coalition and Afghan forces patrolling in Tani, a district on the border with Pakistan.

    Col. Mohammed Israr, a battalion commander in Khost, said Afghan intelligence reports put the number of enemy dead at about 20.

    Israr also said that the group of about 50 militants had crossed from Pakistan, where some Taliban and al Qaeda militants seek refuge, and retreated in that direction under heavy coalition fire.

    However, Perry said the clash took place about 5 miles from the frontier and "did not involve Pakistan."

    Most of those killed in the violence this year have been militants, who suffer heavy losses when caught in the open by coalition aircraft. However, foreign troop deaths also are rising as militants get more effective at ambushes and roadside bombings.

    At least 45 international troops died in Afghanistan in June, the deadliest month since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion to oust the Taliban.

    Police said a roadside bomb killed four officers and seriously wounded two others Monday as they drove to the aid of colleagues under attack by militants near Tirin Kot, the capital of Uruzgan province.

    In neighboring Zabul province, police said they killed five Taliban fighters who attacked a police post in Daichopan district before dawn Tuesday.

    The U.S.-led coalition said its troops shot dead one militant and detained four during an operation Monday to disrupt Taliban activities in southwestern Nimroz province.

    This article appeared on page A - 3 of the San Francisco Chronicle
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    Musharraf Okayed US strikes targeting Osama’

    ‘Musharraf Okayed US strikes targeting Osama’

    * WT claims president waived right of notification, approved move ‘early’ on in war on terror

    WASHINGTON: Pakistan has given America the right to launch an immediate predator drone strike on Osama Bin Laden if he is located in the Tribal Areas, without first notifying Islamabad, The Washington Times reported on Wednesday.

    President Pervez Musharraf granted this exception to other limits on United States counter-terrorism operations in Pakistan ‘early’ in the war against Al Qaeda, launched in Afghanistan in October 2001, the Times said, citing “a knowledgeable official”.

    Islamabad does not allow US military ground forces on its soil, limiting the US presence in Pakistan to ‘scores’ of Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and paramilitary operatives, the Times noted, even though the Al Qaeda chief is widely thought to be holed up in the Tribal Areas.

    But military officials believe that if Bin Laden’s exact location were determined, a missile-equipped predator drone could be airborne or redirected in flight “in a matter of minutes”.

    Special Operations forces, by contrast, would have to be assembled, briefed and then flown to the location by helicopter, a time-consuming and risky process, the paper said.

    Pakistan embassy spokesman Nadeem Kiani declined to comment on the purported deal, but said that Pakistan stands ready to move against Bin Laden if he ever found inside the country. afp
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    Required Reading

    1) From the Philadelphia Inquirer, “Way Past Time for U.S. to Recommit to Afghanistan” by Senator Robert Casey.

    I love the smell of a moldy talking point in the morning. Having been caught flatfooted by the Iraq war going unexpectedly well, the Democratic party has developed a sudden need to find a new Bush foreign policy fiasco to whine about. The answer? Afghanistan.

    In this tedious op-ed, Senator Casey repeats every exhausted trope about Afghanistan that you’ve heard Democratic talking heads mutter since the dark days when John Kerry was a national figure. “Our initial success in Afghanistan was followed by years of neglect…The Bush administration took its eye off the ball by shifting U.S. military forces out of Afghanistan during the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Our senior uniformed military officers acknowledge that the United States continues to have inadequate forces in Afghanistan, in large part due to the demands of our ongoing presence in Iraq.”

    So here’s the question: Is Senator Casey actually suggesting that we send more of our children into Afghanistan, the great maw of death and the burial ground of empire? That would be pretty bold stuff. Casey does specifically call for a “Marshall Plan for Afghanistan,” but I’m unclear what such a gambit involves.

    And what of the Democrats’ presumptive nominee? Barack Obama has used similar language in discussing Afghanistan. Does his vision of “recommitting” and “putting our eye back on the ball” include sending more troops? Or is it all just a bunch of rhetorical gobbledygook, and do the Democrats have as little interest in constructively engaging Afghanistan as they do Iraq?

    I’ll save you a trip to BarackObama.com to seek out the answer. ”Afghanistan” doesn’t even rank as an issue that the site deems fit of mention. Then again, if you wish to further your knowledge on Obama’s positions on such pressing and controversial matters as “Rural” or “Ethics,” then don’t let me dissuade you from taking a gander.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
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