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    Re: Afghanistan and Pakistan

    Bout damn time if true....

    Bombshell if true: Musharraf OKs U.S. attacks inside Pakistan

    The Asia Times isn’t my go-to source for reliable news but there’s a lot about this that makes sense. It comes two days after the big Times scoop on Saturday about Talibanization in the tribal areas threatening to spill over into Pakistan proper and six weeks after the LA Times reported grumbling within the administration about the huge amount of military aid we’re handing to a guy who refuses to use his military. Sounds like the opposition to him within Pakistan for firing the country’s chief justice might now be so hot that he’s worried what’ll happen if the U.S. suddenly withdraws its support for him, too.

    That’s nice leverage to have. Let’s hope it’s true that we’ve used it. In light of the attacks this weekend and the reports ABC has been churning out about suicide-bomber graduation ceremonies and summer “spectaculars,” it may be that we couldn’t afford to wait any longer.

    Since last September, North Atlantic Treaty Organization forces in Afghanistan have been pressing Islamabad for the right to conduct extensive hot-pursuit operations into Pakistan to target Taliban and al-Qaeda bases.

    According to Asia Times Online contacts, NATO and its US backers have gotten their wish: coalition forces will start hitting targets wherever they might be.

    Pakistani President General Pervez Musharraf is expected to make an important announcement on extremism during an address to the nation in the next day or two…

    Operations inside Pakistan might be carried out independently by the United States, probably with air power, by Pakistani forces acting alone or as joint offensives. In all cases, though, the US will pull the strings, for instance by providing the Pakistanis with information on targets to hit…

    [N]ew operations, which could begin within weeks, if not days, are expected to be much larger in scale [than previous isolated U.S. air attacks].
    They’ve been hitting isolated targets in Pakistan periodically when intel emerges that an AQ leader is on the premises. Zawahiri was almost liquidated last year in an airstrike on a madrassa; the CIA’s increased its presence in the border area too within the last few months, but with no reported results. Obviously, given the extent of AQ/Taliban penetration, they want a more sustained presence. In fact, Bush promised Wolf Blitzer last year that if Osama was spotted, he’d send U.S. troops across the border whether or not Musharraf wanted them there — which, as Musharraf reminded us all again recently, he didn’t. Funny how a political crisis concentrates the mind.

    Speaking of crisis, why would Musharraf think he can get away with inviting U.S. troops onto Pakistani soil in the middle of his own political meltdown? Quite possibly because of the months-long standoff he’s been having with Maulana Abdul Aziz and Abdul Rasheed Ghazi, the two jihadist nuts who operate the “Red Mosque” in Islamabad and have been scaring the hell out of people with kidnappings, threats of suicide bombings, etc. I’ve written about them before. Now would be a good time to revisit those posts because if Musharraf does make the announcement that the Asia Times predicts, they’re surely going to react somehow. And if the Times is right about who they are, they’re much more significant figures than any of us have realized:

    All these pro-Taliban/al-Qaeda zones on the Afghan border have connections with the Lal Masjid (Red Mosque) in Islamabad, run by outspoken brothers Maulana Abdul Aziz and Ghazi Abdul Rasheed. The brothers are openly pro-Taliban and also run large Islamic seminaries for boys and girls.

    The Pakistani establishment believes Aziz is in fact the new leader of all the Taliban and al-Qaeda assets spreading through northwestern Pakistan, especially the zone commanded by the TNSM. Aziz delivers lectures by telephone every evening to TNSM members…

    They can be expected to organize sustained resistance should NATO/US forces launch attacks into Pakistan. Some reports claim that about 70 suicide bombers are waiting to be unleashed from the mosque. But any attack on the mosque could set off a chain reaction all the way from Islamabad to the Afghan border and beyond, in the process throwing Pakistan further into turmoil.
    The cynic in me wonders if that Pakistani government memo about Talibanization that formed the basis of the Times scoop this weekend wasn’t purposely leaked by Musharraf to alarm the locals and give him the political cover he needs to authorize U.S. incursions. Whatever you gotta do, buddy.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Afghanistan and Pakistan

    Last statement. Agree. I think its all about political cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    Last statement. Agree. I think its all about political cover.
    It'd be a nice change of pace to have the media working in favor of "US" for a change.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    par for the course among these fanatic leaders who send others off to martyr themselves. Whether it be using a burqa or hiding in a spider hole.. all the same.. save their own skin at any cost..

    Mosque leader in burqa escape bid

    The leader of a radical mosque besieged by Pakistani security forces in Islamabad has been caught trying to escape wearing a woman's burqa.

    Security forces seized Maulana Abdul Aziz as he tried to leave the Red Mosque amid a crowd of women.

    The mosque is surrounded by Pakistani troops after gun battles with armed students killed 16 on Tuesday. They have been told to give themselves up.

    Clerics at the mosque are campaigning for Islamic Sharia law to be enforced.

    The deputy commissioner of police in Islamabad, Chaudhry Muhammad Ali, described how the cleric tried to escape wearing the all-enveloping dress worn by Muslim women.

    "The maulana came out of the mosque with a group of girls wearing a burqa and carrying a handbag. The girls protested when he was stopped. But officers were suspicious and after a search, Maulana Abdul Aziz was identified and arrested," he told the BBC.

    Another security official told AFP that the cleric had been picked out because of his "unusual demeanour".

    "The rest of the girls looked like girls, but he was taller and had a pot belly," the official said.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/...deo/index.html

    Al Qaeda's No. 2 says end of West imminent, video shows


    Yeah. Well thats nice. Bite me.

    ^^Zawahiri warns Americans that "Today, the wind - by grace of Allah - is blowing against Washington."

    Let me tell you something Mister. The only wind that is blowing is from underneath that stupid dress you wear.


    My favorite:

    May Allah pluck out your eye if you haven't yet seen that jihad is an individual duty.
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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070705/...stan_mosque_dc


    "HUMAN SHIELDS"
    Earlier, Khan told a news conference that, based on reports from some of the students who had quit the mosque, the militants appeared to be using women and children as human shields.
    "A large number of women and children are being held hostage by armed men in room," he said.
    The official death toll from the three days of violence in the Pakistani capital rose to at least 19.
    Liberal politicians have for months pressed President Pervez Musharraf, who faces elections later this year, to crack down on the cleric brothers in charge of the mosque and their movement.
    Hundreds of police and soldiers have sealed off the Red Mosque and imposed a curfew in the neighborhood around it. Water, gas and power supplies to the mosque have been cut.
    The Lal Masjid movement is part of a phenomenon known as "Talibanisation" -- the spread of militant influence from remote tribal regions on the Afghan border into central areas.
    In an earlier television interview on state-run television, Ghazi's captured brother, Abdul Aziz, put the number of students in the mosque at about 850, including 600 women and girls.
    The government estimates there are 50 to 60 hard-core militants among them, armed with automatic weapons, grenades and petrol bombs.

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    ^^^ Odd... I do not remember our "minutemen" using women and children as human shields. Must have been absent that day in history class.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Oh cool. Now they have a video of wee wee pants trying to escape dressed as a woman.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/0...pe-in-a-burqa/

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    Oh cool. Now they have a video of wee wee pants trying to escape dressed as a woman.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2007/07/0...pe-in-a-burqa/
    Guess he was not as anxious to get at his 72 virgins as the followers he tricked into martyring themselves. I say they should make him wear that outfit indefinitely.... along with the purse.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Afghanistan and Pakistan

    4x2000lb bombs should do the trick. Just call in the USAF already.
    Nuke em'.

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    ^^

    President Pervez Musharraf on Saturday gave the militants a 'surrender-or-die' ultimatum.
    I like it.

    Ghazi has said he preferred "martyrdom." In a statement carried by Sunday newspapers the cleric said he and his followers hoped their deaths would spark an Islamic revolution.
    Does "martyrdom" now mean toss on a burka, high heels and a purse and try to sneak out among the women?
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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