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    Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    This procedure is now better covered here







    Well, I've offered to help Dancinbr get Linux going on his system, and I figured that someone else might find it useful too, so here it is, in almost guide format.

    First, you'll need to get an install disk image. I tend to recommend staying with recent releases where possible. "testing" on Linux can be compared to the Windows idea of Stable. "stable" on Linux can't be acheived on Windows.

    I'm a bit of a debian junkie, but Ubuntu does a few things right that Debian doesn't (e.g. root priviledges), so lets go with an Ubuntu distro. Dancingbr told me that he'd like to use kde, so that means we're going with kubuntu.

    Here's a link to the kubuntu downloads
    http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php#latest

    Grab an edgy (6.10) download (the DVD is nice, but if you don't want to wait the 8 hours for a 4GB torrent, we can go with a CD)

    If you have 64-bit machine (any AMD64, X2, Core 2 Duo, or P4 with EMT64) make sure to get an AMD64 CD.

    Before burning the CD or DVD, make sure the download worked right (if you used bittorent, this is done for you automatically) by verifying the checksum.

    md5 is the standard for checksums on downloads. Here's a link to a windows md5sum program.
    http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

    Run it from the command-line like this:
    Code:
    md5sum kubuntu-6.10-desktop-amd64.iso
    When you burn the CD, make sure to select the verify after writing option.

    When you boot for the first time with the CD in the drive, it will give you some menu options.

    Choose verify disk.

    If that doesn't succeed, you'll need to repeat the steps above (if all the verifies above worked, it should succeed)

    When you boot with the CD in for the second time, it's time to start the install.
    If you have nVidia graphics, use [start or install kubuntu]
    If you have ATI graphics, try using [start or install kubuntu]. If you find yourself at a text-mode login screen, reboot and select [install in text mode].

    Let me know how that goes, and we'll continue on from there.
    Last edited by Annirak; 12-08-2006 at 07:27 PM.
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time


    im interested in trying out linux again at somepoint so this might prove useful to me too, thanks
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Thanks Annirak.

    A bit tired tonight.

    I will try to burn the kubuntu image again.

    Right now, I am running two proteins on the new rig under windows/xp.

    Just wanted to get everything going.

    I had trouble with the second stick of memory.

    I may have not seated it properly.

    Later tonight, after dinner I am going to put it back in and see what happens.
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    OK got my rig running fine with 1 gig dual channel memory on my a8v.

    Currently downloading 6.10.

    Then we will do the checksum.

    Then burn the CD
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Again, if you download with a torrent, you have the correct file, guaranteed.
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Should be good, I'm planning a dual-boot system with Kubuntu.

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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Annirak,

    Please explain "torrent".

    Not following you at all on this one.

    I did a download of a CD image now complete from a United States mirror.

    Help
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Dancingbr,
    There is a protocol you must have heard of by now, called bit-torrent. Part of what it does is checksuming. It's very popular for distibuting Linux distros. If you have a CD image downloaded, then you should be good to go.
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Well I downloaded it but did not use bit-torrent.

    I did some googling around.

    I need to have a torrent client to do a guaranteed download.

    I did the checksum, but where do you get the "posted" checksum for the iso I just downloaded.

    Isn't this fun?
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Well I am going to brut force it.

    I am downloading two ISO images.

    If the checksum comes out the same on both; I know I am OK.
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Good Morning Annirak,

    OK after a hardware glitch, (my cd-rom player half died).

    See thread http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=431860

    We are now in business. I have a good copy of the kubuntu 6.10 iso burned to a cd.

    I have repartitioned the hard drive freeing up some space I can use for LINUX and still have windows on it.

    I gather the Kubunto ISO has utilities, etc., for dual booting set up, etc., etc.

    I am going to give it a go now.

    I know I have to set up several partitions.

    /home
    /user
    /swap


    ???? something else.

    Anyway, I am going to fire it up and see what happens

    Chime in anytime you are ready
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    OK bringing up Kubuntu.

    Now figure this one out.

    I did two separate downloads of Kubuntu 6.10 ISO to my system

    I did a md5 hash on both of them.

    The hashes matched.

    Therefore, I conclude that my ISO images are correct since their hashes matched. I did not know the actual hash for this ISO so this is why I downloaded two copies from two separate places and they matched.

    Then I go and boot up the Kubuntu ISO and it boots fine.

    I do the cd check on it and it says I had two checksum failures !!!

    What gives.

    Right now I am ignoring this and proceeding
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    OK it booted up.

    Started up just fine.

    Got to the install and it was ready to do some partitioning.

    However, I stopped.

    I want to end up dual bootable.

    I think I need something else beyond this.

    So I await your reply Annirak.

    Thanks.
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    OK, did some reading; moving on.

    This thing figures it out.

    It installs GRUB for dual booting.

    Getting used to terminology too.

    a, b, c, d, for drives
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    Re: Annirak helps Dancinbr bring up Linux for the first time

    Ok, I'm a little worried about those checksum failures...

    Well, if we run into problems, I think I know where to find the source

    Here's how things work in the Linux setup with respect to partitioning and dual boot.

    First, I don't recommend that a first-time user use quite so many partitions as you mentioned above. That technique is great for data recovery, but it sucks for some other things. I only run with two partitions: / and swap. for special boot needs, I've been known to use a /boot as well. /home makes sense where you're not the only user.

    Now, when you get to the partitioner, it will list the current partition configuration of the drive. I assume that you already have an NTFS partition that you want to keep. If that is the case, just ensure that you change nothing on that partition and it will all work out.

    The very last thing to be installed before you reboot into your new system is a little application called grub. It's a bootloader. It will replace the MS bootloader, and allow you to boot into one of three options: MS windows, Linux, Linux-recovery mode.

    So fear not! As long as you don't give your windows partition a mount point, it won't get overwritten!
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