The Great Global Warming Swindle

[AMDScooter]

Anyone else watch this?

The Great Global Warming Swindle

Channel 4, Thursday 8 March, 9pm

Are you green? How many flights have you taken in the last year? Feeling guilty about all those unnecessary car journeys? Well, maybe there's no need to feel bad.

According to a group of scientists brought together by documentary-maker Martin Durkin, if the planet is heating up, it isn't your fault and there's nothing you can do about it.

We've almost begun to take it for granted that climate change is a man-made phenomenon. But just as the environmental lobby think they've got our attention, a group of naysayers have emerged to slay the whole premise of global warming.

[liquidsoul]

Like I am really going to believe a bogus Marxist's view on Global Warming

Next crappy global warming refute please......

The Michael Moore of the UK.

[AMDScooter]

Like I am really going to believe a bogus Marxist's view on Global Warming

Next crappy global warming refute please......

The Michael Moore of the UK.

Marxist's.... crappy refute... fatman? I must be missing the connection.

But were I to compare this show to the one the Goracle recently got Hollyweird accolades for.. I call it junk science and half truths vs. scientific fact... Gore being the one pushing the junk science bit.

[Orangutan]

I believe jimz and I discussed Durkin and his little program in Rolleyes. If I remember correctly, he's a lying sack of shit.

[AMDScooter]

I believe jimz and I discussed Durkin and his little program in Rolleyes. If I remember correctly, he's a lying sack of shit.

Say what you will about Durkin, I know not much about his background. Perhaps it merits investigation on my part.

That said, the people interviewed are not nutjobs with no credentials. The evidence they provide is pretty up front, no smoke and mirrors I can see. Their conclusions are far more believable and scientifically reinforced than those of the opinions from the GW crowd.

[smoked trout]

So I was thinking this morning (after reading a global warming link posted by Dutch) about the parallels between the Global Warming hype and the WMD hype leading up to the Iraq war... and then I read comments comparing Durkin to Moore!

All the games are the same but the names have been changed...

[Soundforbjt]

"Professor Carl Wunsch (professor of physical oceanography at MIT), stated that he was "completely misrepresented" by Durkin in his documentary. Currently considering making a formal complaint, Wunsch claims he was "totally misled" as to the content of the program."

[liquidsoul]

^^^

Yup, and I have heard other scientists are "outraged" on how their views were interpretted. Looks to me like Durkin is full of shit. Let me see if I can find those links again. I found them on Digg or slashdot one of the two.

[AMDScooter]

^^^ Got a link?

[liquidsoul]

Working on it....

[AMDScooter]

Found one already:

http://news.independent.co.uk/enviro...cle2347526.ece

[darkknight]

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Re: Scientists -vs- celebrities on Global Warming
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Originally Posted by uncleel
No I'm not! I'm just being courteous to you, by providing articles for your reading pleasure, that appear to take the position you seem to be exposing. Certainly a better scietific reference than PBS, Nightline, Union of Concerned Scientists' (who aren't) etc. etc. Presuming climate is changing and there is nothing we can do about it, but rather than tell the truth, they want to point the finger at someone else, the evil AmeriKa, evil Bush, and evil Suv's.


This needs to be a straight scientific -to- scientific debate, w/o celebrities, politicians, & enviro-wackos.

IE: No super hurricane season, no pandemic bird flu, no cure for aids (but it is preventable) or any other 'cause de jour' you care to name.

Now for another view, watch this. Global Warming a hoax?

When will you learn..I actually check out your links. I repeatedly find evidence to counter your suppositions within your links. But you never counter those...wonder why..
Any way those sites you berated me for I stated when I posted them that I was not offering them as evidence.
For your latest post to me...I have this:
PIRATES!!!!!! Average global temp change vs number of PIRATES!
That is yours! you made it and you are trying to bump your hits! It's the same sense of humor IMHO!
Is that what this is all about?

At least this is not that bad! ok... here we go..

Channel 4 was launched on 2nd November 1982, with a remit to broadcast distinctive programmes. Under the Communications Act 2003, Channel 4 has a duty to provide high quality innovative programming that is experimental, creative and appeals to the tastes and interests of a culturally diverse society.

Channel 4 has always supported, and will continue to support the independent sector (the majority of Channel 4's programming being commissioned from independent production companies) with a strong commitment to regional production, original programming and schools/educational output.

Channel 4 is funded by commercial activity, principally through the sale of advertising airtime.

Channel 4 reinvests its profits in programming and the development of new content and services. The Film4 channel was launched in November 1998, E4 first went on air in January 2001, and October 2005 saw the start of the More4 channel. Towards the end of 2000, the commercial services arm of the Channel Four Television Corporation, 4 Ventures Limited (which runs these channels) was established.

Channel 4 is currently broadcast in the UK on analogue and digital services. The day-to-day management and control of the Corporation and its policies and functions are managed by the Chief Executive and the other executive directors, who are accountable to the Board. The majority of Board members are non-executive, appointed by Ofcom with the approval of the Secretary of State for Culture Media and Sport.

http://www.channel4.com/microsites/F/foia/faq.html

Ok I expect better! step up scoot!
I like you but I must call you out on this one.

[AMDScooter]

^^^ Sorry DK... not sure what your message is here.

[darkknight]

I am referring to you source.
Channel 4 sounds like a news media source available over the air, in fact it is not.
http://www.channel4.com/learning/mic.../teachers.html

http://www.channel4.com/corporate/4producers/

Scoot please read this: http://www.channel4.com/about4/annualreport.html
Should tork you off!

[/\/\adGamer]

You guys can buy into the global warming thing if you want its still a theory with a lot of holes in it not too much unlike the strainer I use to drain the water off my pasta.

Argue on dont let me stop you just wanted to add my 2 cents