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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Report reveals 92 percent of foreign nationals in federal prisons are illegal immigrants

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...mmigrants.html

    Bigoted Racism! Open the gates of hell...
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...gration-343848

    The report, released on Tuesday by the departments of Justice and Homeland Security, contended that 73 percent of the 549 individuals convicted on terrorism charges since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were born outside the U.S. But experts have disputed that figure, arguing that the report seemed to have been framed to support the White House’s proposed immigration reforms.

    Specifically, critics have taken issue with the report’s inclusion of terrorists captured overseas and extradited to the U.S. on terrorism charges in the same category as immigrants who came to the U.S. and later conducted acts of terrorism. Combining the two groups inflates the report’s finding on foreign-born terrorists in the U.S., critics told reporters from The Washington Post and The Daily Beast.

    But Ed O’Callaghan, principal deputy assistant attorney general, maintained on Wednesday that including terrorists arrested overseas and extradited to the U.S. is fair game because the arrests ultimately foiled terrorism plots against the U.S.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/team-t...ation-argument

    What’s more, statistics kept by the New America Foundation on terrorism undermine the administration’s case for the “foreign-born” being more likely to carry out violent acts. New America looked specifically at the accused terrorist’s citizenship status at the time of charge or arrest. The results are wildly divergent from the administration’s, though New America does not restrict itself, as the government did, to conviction statistics. According to the think tank, 85 percent of those charged in the U.S. with federal terrorism offenses are U.S. citizens or permanent residents.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/577308001/

    To further satisfy the president’s sudden desire for fact, it is essential to understand that the road to the Charlottesville attack was not traveled in a night, nor even a decade. Since 9/11, the uptick in terrorism has not come from foreign threats. Instead it is owed to homegrown terrorists, with significant surges in attacks in 2008 and 2012, coinciding with the election and re-election of Barack Obama, America’s first African-American president.

    The New America Foundation reports an almost 2-1 ratio of attacks by far-right extremists over Islamist extremists. The Anti-Defamation League reports that from 2007 to 2016, a diverse collection of extremists was responsible for the deaths of at least 372 people in the United States; 74% of these murders came at the hands of right wing extremists. These trends are accelerating, rapidly. In an eight-day period in May, for example, there was a string of violent extremist incidents that received little media attention and, unsurprisingly, no condemnation from the president.
    carry on

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    ^^ In a country infected with the highly contagious Trump Derangement Syndrome everything is backasswards. Truth becomes fake, fake becomes truth. The old saying fight fire with fire couldn’t be more applicable. Kill or be killed as they say...

    Tweet is the only defense...
    “What Happened”...

    Hmmm it must be

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    hey president trump, a norwegian's opinion


    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/13/opinio...ion/index.html

    Martine Aurdal is an op-ed editor and political commentator for the Norwegian daily newspaper Dagbladet. The opinions expressed in this commentary are her own.
    Donald Trump wants America to have more immigrants from Norway in contrast to what he reportedly called "shithole countries" in Africa.
    Although we love to visit America, Mr. Trump, it is highly unlikely that Norwegians are going to flow into the US to live. As a citizen of Norway, I can tell you we're not flattered, but offended by the President's eagerness to have us emigrate.

    Even though Trump has denied making the particular comment, members of Congress who attended the meeting say that the reports are true.
    The offer has left Norwegians offended, not flattered.

    President Trump is judging immigrants by where they come from, and it is hard not to see this as a question of ethnicity. Norwegians have had a history of being positively discriminated for our race and have resisted those ideas before -- we will do it again.
    A century ago it was different. About 800,000 Norwegians migrated to the US, including my great-grandfather. We were a poor country, and the migrants were searching for opportunities and fit the phrase on the Statue of Liberty: They were our tired, our poor. America welcomed them, and they found what they were looking for.
    Today, Norway is one of the richest countries in the world, and we will not give up on our cradle-to-grave welfare. Our parental leave is a generous year, kindergarten is cheap, and our higher education is free. Health care is also free for every Norwegian citizen. Our society strives to be tolerant. Every political party promotes liberal values, gender-equality and human rights. The plumber´s son goes to school with the CEO´s daughter, and social mobility is high. Hence, our leaders have diverse backgrounds and anyone could meet the NATO secretary general skiing in the woods or our Prime Minister at the supermarket doing her own grocery shopping.

    So instead of trying to import our whiteness, the US President should try letting some of our ideals in.
    Radical ideologies are rising throughout the Western hemisphere and Norway has not been immune. We have experienced right-wing terrorism with devastating consequences. Neo-Nazis are increasing, and at least 100 Norwegian Muslims have been radicalized and joined the Islamic state since 2012. The white American supremacists who gathered in Charlottesville, Virginia, praised the Scandinavian neo-Nazi group Nordic Resistance Movement. It is a small, but increasingly visual group in our society. They promote despicable ideas that we condemn as a society. Our Prime Minister, who met with Trump earlier this week, does not say that there are "some very fine people" among the marching Nazis. She warns that they could rip our society apart.

    The key to fighting against such tendencies is integration and equality. Encouraging a society where we judge people as individuals, not for belonging to an ethnic or religious group, is crucial. These are the same ideals that Martin Luther King Jr. promoted, and that Donald Trump, bizarrely enough, praised in his first meeting with the press after the comments on "shithole countries" and Norway.
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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    maybe whe can start indoctrinating our children at an early age as they in norway.

    If the neo-Nazis succeed, it can tear our society apart

    Erna Solberg, Prime Minister

    The powers that will replace tolerance and openness with hatred and fear never get lost. They are few today, and we must never allow them to be many.

    Right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis have much in common with outer left or religious extremists. They all seek to whip up hate, opposition and conflict within the Norwegian society. If successful, it can tear our society apart. It should not happen. It is the responsibility of the government, but also for municipalities, organizations and all of us in our daily lives to counteract this.

    To protect society, more helicopters, more trained police officers and barriers around important buildings are of course important. But equally important is to prevent youth from being recruited to extreme movements. Terror in Europe has shown us that in open society there will always be soft targets that can be affected, no matter how much you invest in physical security and police preparedness. Prevention is therefore the most important thing we can do.

    In the fall, students start school who were not born July 22, 2011. We have a commitment to remind future generations of what disasters right-wing thoughts may trigger. Therefore, the government has established the July 22st Center during the government quarter. Since its opening in 2015, the center has been heavily accustomed to school classes from all over the country and has an organized teaching program.

    Work at school is important. In connection with the anti-Semitism Action Plan, the government has initiated work on new learning resources and postgraduate education packages for teachers. They will cover the topics of hate speech, anti-Semitism, racism, discrimination of minorities and undemocratic attitudes. Learning resources will be tested in 2018 and evaluated in the first half of 2019.

    The government will also strengthen the school project Democratic Preparedness Against Racism and Anti-Semitism (Dembra). Dembra contributes to the efforts of youth and high schools to prevent anti-Semitism, racism, radicalization and undemocratic attitudes. Last summer, Dembra launched digital resources for use in high school and high school.

    Fortunately, Norway has good experience with projects to make young people out of extreme movements. The experience stems from the Exit projects against violent right-wing extremism back to the 90's. We are experiencing international interest in learning from this and the work we have taken against Islamic extremism.

    At the same time, it is important to remember that the extreme attitudes change character over time. Their methods also change. We must never sleep and think we have "good enough" control. The government therefore took control when it became apparent that the most important research groups on right-wing extremism were in dissolution. Much of the resources within the broad research programs found the way to research on extreme Islamism, not on right-wing extremism. Therefore, in 2016, the government established its own research center

    right wing extremism at the University of Oslo. It is now operational and does an important job. We need to keep up to date, know what's happening and what methods to combat these forces.
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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    ^^^ Should just stick to calling people you disagree with racists... saves time scrolling past the wall of text.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    ^^^ bb's favorite response....the magic elixir for whatever ails you - better than any snake oil.

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    Tucker: Calif. is challenging integrity of the union
    Jan. 19, 2018 - 9:46 - Tucker's Thoughts: The country's biggest state is punishing its citizens for following federal law. California is fighting on the behalf of a foreign population that has no right to be here in the first place. Helping Americans isn't the point. Illegal immigration makes their donors richer and ensures their re-election. #Tucker

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/571545484...#sp=show-clips

    Communist Facism is all about the vote stupid... Hillary’s Hemispheric Union in Kalifornia...
    “What Happened”...

    Hmmm it must be

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    God.. if ur up there.. please let that ratf*ck Vargas be next...

    ICE Is Enforcing Deportation Orders Against High-Profile Illegal Immigrant Activists



    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    God.. if ur up there.. please let that ratf*ck Vargas be next...

    ICE Is Enforcing Deportation Orders Against High-Profile Illegal Immigrant Activists

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    Chippy would be a good end for Vargas. Sickening son of a @*#*%
    “What Happened”...

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    According to the latest Harvard-Harris poll, the idea that a majority of Americans support the Democrats' positions on DACA and immigration (both legal and illegal) is pure bulldung.

    It shows the exact opposite.

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    ^^^ No surprise there - out government is now saturated with self-serving career politicians that are completely out of touch with reality - they treat the radical left spun crap the MSM spews out as reality...

    Just like our little liberal buddies do right here.
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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    ^^ The Democrats were pissing up a rope from the very beginning there’s no way Americans are going to put illegals above citizens. Not even TT&BB. Nobody ever promised politicans would reflect the view of the people. Most often they don’t Flimsy Graham and Flakey for example.
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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    Pelosi: Trump's Immigration Proposal Is Part of a 'Campaign to Make America White Again'


    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/01/2...ca-white-again

    WILL AMERICA REMAIN WHITE? MORE NON-HISPANIC WHITES DIED THAN WERE BORN IN U.S. LAST YEAR

    http://www.newsweek.com/will-america...ulation-628280


    Hmmm... Make America white again. When you take into consideration the white death rate exceeds white birth rate maybe more whites are a good thing. Of course not good for the radical left since Hispanics vote 2 to 1 for demorats. Also consider racially mixed marriages. Interesting!
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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    ^^^ Fear mongering hype coupled to the race card. Bravo Nancy, now come up with something original next time...

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    Re: The Senate's "Grand Bargain" [Immigration Debate]

    Illegals commit crimes at double the rate of native-born: Study

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...tive-born-stu/

    Much to nobody’s surprise another radical left fallacy proven wrong. Dreamers mostly middle age losers not the children the demorats try to make everybody believe.
    “What Happened”...

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