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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Photo link from Malkins piece

    http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/...e-Day-Two.html


    The BBC is now reporting that Iran is saying the knighthood is a provocation. As in deliberate.
    More in awhile. It was just a flash at BBC
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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    Photo link from Malkins piece

    http://www.snappedshot.com/archives/...e-Day-Two.html


    The BBC is now reporting that Iran is saying the knighthood is a provocation. As in deliberate.
    More in awhile. It was just a flash at BBC
    It's hilarious to see the Muslims in the West soo embattled with the governments of the countries where they CHOOSE to live freely. I'm fed up with their crap. Want Shria law...?? No one is keeping you here forcibly, get the h3ll out and go to a country that has it... we do not want it here.
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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Heyyy... this guy is making the rounds again it seems..

    Now...



    Then... Dutch cartoon riots...



    Or is it just his long lost brother??
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    I'm not at all surprised by the response from countries like Pakratistan and Irant.

    I'm somewhat surprised that Rushdie gets a knighthood. But I don't really know much about the guy other than he ticked off about every muslim in the world...so maybe it fits.
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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Quote Originally Posted by smoked trout View Post
    I'm not at all surprised by the response from countries like Pakratistan and Irant.

    I'm somewhat surprised that Rushdie gets a knighthood. But I don't really know much about the guy other than he ticked off about every muslim in the world...so maybe it fits.
    My take...its been awhile...on Rushdie?
    I think of the Ralph Nadar of Islam.

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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    He wrote a piece of fiction... some liked it.. some obviously did not. People write fiction all the time... this rarely if ever draws calls for death... unless a religion whose name shall remain ... un-named.. is involved..
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Yeah. As Nader told the tale of the Corvair? This guy told the tale of Islam

    Blurb.

    The Satanic Verses is Salman Rushdie's fourth novel, first published in 1988 and inspired in part by the life of Muhammad. The title refers to the Satanic Verses, a possible interpolation in the Qur'an described by Ibn Ishaq in his biography of Muhammad (the oldest surviving text). Some Islamic and most non-Muslim Western historians and commentators on the Qur'an have accepted this story of Muhammad's momentary acceptance of the verses. However, a common Muslim viewpoint is that the existence of the verses is just a fabrication created by non-Muslims. [1]
    The novel caused much controversy upon its publication, as many Muslims felt that it contained blasphemous references. Singapore was the first country and India the second to ban the book. Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, the Supreme Leader of Iran, a Shi'a Muslim scholar, issued a fatwa that called for the death of Rushdie and claimed that it was the duty of every Muslim to obey.
    On February 14, 1989, the Ayatollah broadcast the following message on Iranian radio: "I inform the proud Muslim people of the world that the author of the Satanic Verses book, which is against Islam, the Prophet and the Qur'an, and all those involved in its publication who are aware of its content are sentenced to death."[2]As a result, Hitoshi Igarashi, the Japanese language translator of the book was stabbed to death on July 11, 1991; Ettore Capriolo, the Italian language translator, was seriously injured in a stabbing the same month, and William Nygaard, the publisher in Norway, survived an attempted assassination in Oslo in October of 1993. On February 14, 2006, the Iranian state news agency reported that the fatwa will remain in place permanently.[3]
    In the United Kingdom, however, the book garnered great critical acclaim. It was a 1988 Booker Prize Finalist, eventually losing to Peter Carey's Oscar and Lucinda.

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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    I guess some context might be some of Vonneguts writing.
    Except we dont get as excited.

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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Have a look at this list of some controversial books listed at Wikki of which Satanic Versus is listed. Guess how many others prompted worldwide calls for the death of the author.....

    List of controversial books

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    * Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain - a book famously banned in a large number of U.S. schools.
    * All I Need Is Love - aging actor talks about his love life
    * American Psycho - a fictional narrative of a stock broker who lives a double life as a serial killer.
    * Annie on my Mind - a fictional tale about two women who meet and fall in love
    * Apocalypse Culture II - probes social taboos
    * The Bias Against Guns - claims that widespread gun ownership prevents crime and is a net social good
    * Bilingual Today, French Tomorrow - claims that, with current policies, Canada will be primarily French-speaking in the near future
    * The Black Book of Communism - catalogs human rights violations by some Communist states.
    * The Book Your Church Doesn't Want You to Read by Tim C. Leedom - traces the origins and history of modern day western religions
    * The Calcutta Quran Petition - discusses Hindu/Muslim tensions in India, including several accounts of banning; incidentally, it was itself subject to attempts to ban it
    * The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger - frequently criticized in the United States and Australia for its supposed glorification of violence and sexism
    * The Camp of the Saints - predicts uprising of (and revolution by?) minorities in France and then the world.
    * Chariots of the Gods - suggests that extraterrestrials have visited Earth
    * A Child Called It - autobiographical account of child abuse
    * The Cider House Rules - for support of the pro-choice abortion movement
    * Clandestine in Chile:The Adventures of Miguel Littin - discusses an exile secretly visits Chile during Pinochet
    * Collapse - deals with societal collapses involving an environmental component
    * The Confessions of Nat Turner - historical novel
    * The Conscience of a Conservative - known as a social commentary by Barry Goldwater
    * Consciousness Explained - examines mind/brain relationship
    * Consilience: The Unity of Knowledge - dreams of grand unification of sciences and humanities
    * The Controversy of Zion by Douglas Reed - supposes Jewish plot to take over the world by subverting countries.
    * The Culture of Critique series - portrays Jewish group behavior/culture as a competitive strategy
    * The Da Vinci Code - fictional account wherein characters expose hidden truths the Catholic Church has concealed for centuries, including Christ's divinity, his celibacy and thus the possibility of a genetic heritage. (Jesus' descendants).
    * Deadly Deceits (My 25 Years in the CIA) by Ralph McGehee - its publication was delayed for three years by the CIA itself despite much of the book's content already being public knowledge
    * Dictionnaire philosophique - Voltaire is critical of society, religion - in alphabetical order
    * Dude, Where's My Country? - Michael Moore deals with corporate and political events in the U.S.
    * The Emperor's New Mind - subtitled Concerning Computers, Minds and The Laws of Physics
    * The Enemy Within - subtitled Saving America from the Liberal Assault on our Schools, Faith and Military
    * The Feminine Mystique - claims that some women can find fulfillment in non-traditional roles
    * Fight Club - throws into light some darker philosophy
    * Finnegans Wake - this is in the style of Ulysses, but much more obscure.
    * The First Stone - deals with a 1992 sexual harassment scandal at Ormond College, Melbourne
    * Flowers in the Attic - V.C. Andrews discusses a sexual relationship that develops between an adolescent brother and sister
    * Forever by Judy Blume - banned in several states for openly discussing adolescent sexuality
    * From Time Immemorial - argues that many of the refugees from the 1948 Arab-Israeli war were not native Palestinians
    * God's Politics - why the right are wrong and the left just don't get it
    * The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck - was often criticized for its vulgar language
    * The Green Book - Muammar al-Qaddafi's views on democracy and his political philosophy.
    * The Harry Potter books - depictions of witchcraft and the supernatural.
    * Hogg - a pornographic novel endorsed by Norman Mailer
    * The Hollow Hope - subtitled Can Courts Bring About Social Change? (examines judicial activism)
    * The Holocaust Industry - subtitled Reflections on the Exploitation of Jewish Suffering
    * Homesteading the Noosphere - anthropological examination of Open Source software management
    * How Europe Underdeveloped Africa - claims Africa was held down and used by European colonial regimes.
    * In Defense of Internment - subtitled The Case for Racial Profiling in World War II and the War on Terror
    * Invasion: How America Still Welcomes Terrorists, Criminals, and Other Foreign Menaces
    * Jewish History, Jewish Religion - claims Jewish history as told by Israel is ethnocentric
    * Like Water for Chocolate - frustrated lovers consummate their love late in life in magical Mexico
    * Live from Death Row - memoirs of a cop-killer, reviews long history of blacks in America
    * The Lives of John Lennon - critical of Lennon
    * Le Livre noir du Canada Anglais - purports injustices in Canada against the Quebecois, Jewish and aboriginal peoples.
    * Lolita - deals explicitly with pedophelia
    * The Mad Man - a "pornotopic fantasy" (novel)
    * The Malay Dilemma - promotes autonomy for the indigenous people of Malaysia
    * Mandingo - a novel about violence towards black slaves in antebellum South
    * Michael Moore Is a Big Fat Stupid White Man - rebuts the arguments set forth in Michael Moore's books
    * Might is Right - discusses Social Darwinism in a way that could be construed as a blunt affirmation of it.
    * Josephine Mutzenbacher - 1906 Pornographic novel that graphically depicts the sexual activities of a Viennese girl from ages 5-12.
    * The Myth of Islamic Tolerance - subtitled How Islamic Law Treats Non-Muslims (suggests: not very nicely)

    [edit] N-Z

    * Nickel and Dimed - subtitled On (Not) Getting By in America - Examines "working poor" in post welfare-reform USA
    * On the Justice of Roosting Chickens - portrays 9/11 as revenge for Western meddling in Mid-East in 20th century
    * The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind - divides primitive human mind to expressive and obedient parts
    * The Origin of Species - revolutionary work which contradicted existing scientific, religious and philosophical beliefs
    * The Painted Bird - involves incest, etc.
    * Paulicéia Desvairada - poetry that sometimes condemns Brazilian society
    * The Plot Against America - alternate history novel where Charles Lindbergh is elected U.S. President in 1940
    * A Prison Diary - diary of a former MP and British prisoner in various jails
    * The Rage and The Pride - post-9/11 condemnation of Islam as a totalitarian force bent on destroying Western civilisation
    * The Real Anita Hill - purports to revealed the real motives of Anita Hill. Later repudiated by its author.
    * The Real Lincoln - severely critical view of Lincoln presidency.
    * Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot and Other Observations
    * Samizdat - subtitled And Other Issues Regarding the 'Source' of Open Source Code
    * The Satanic Bible by Anton La Vey
    * The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie - considered blasphemous by many Muslims.
    * The Secret Mulroney Tapes: Unguarded Confessions of a Prime Minister
    * The Seduction of Hillary Rodham - written by some media watchdog?
    * Sex - book of explicit sexual fantasies by the famous pop singer Madonna
    * Show Boat - Broadway musical with stereotypical portrayal of blacks as socially inferior
    * Siege - embraces Charles Manson as a Leader for today.
    * Starship Troopers - a science fiction novel depicting a lot of warfare. Also considered by many to advocate militaristic anti-democracy, or fascism.
    * The Story of Ferdinand - children's book supposedly promoting pacifist propaganda
    * Testimony - supposed the memoirs of the composer Dmitri Shostakovich, purporting that he could be, a times, quite rude
    * The Truth About Hillary - delves into her sexuality and political ambitions, but includes proven inaccuracies[1]
    * The Turner Diaries - details a fictional white supremacist takeover of the world
    * Unsafe at Any Speed - claims that car manufacturers resisted implementing safety features
    * Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation - pre-Darwin attacks on creationism
    * Will They Ever Trust Us Again? - questions military sense of loyalty after invasion of Iraq
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    I knew my analogy wasnt nuts^^

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unsafe_at_Any_Speed

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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    follow up to BBC mention

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6769671.stm

    Iranians have wee wee pants.

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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    I missed this yesterday. From our clear thinking friends at Volokh


    Eugene Volokh, June 18, 2007 at 4:22pm] Trackbacks Islam, Religion of Peace? Doubtless as practiced by many, but not as urged by Pakistan's Religious Affairs minister, or Iranian members of parliament. From the Times Online:
    Britain's decision to award Salman Rushdie a knighthood set off a storm of protest in the Islamic world today, with a Pakistani government minister giving warning that it could provide justification for suicide bomb attacks.
    [Rushdie] has lived under police protection since the late Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini of Iran pronounced a fatwa (death sentence) on him over alleged blasphemies against Islam in his 1988 novel The Satanic Verses.
    Today, Pakistan's religious affairs minister suggested that the knighthood was so grave an offence that any Muslim anywhere in the world would be justified in taking violent action.
    "If somebody has to attack by strapping bombs to his body to protect the honour of the Prophet then it is justified," Mr ul-Haq told the National Assembly.
    The minister, the son of Zia ul-Haq, the military dictator who died in a plane crash in 1988, later retracted his statement in parliament, then told the AFP news agency that he meant to say that knighting Rushdie would foster extremism.
    "If someone blows himself up he will consider himself justified. How can we fight terrorism when those who commit blasphemy are rewarded by the West?" he said....
    Well, how can we count on you to fight terrorism when you start by saying terrorism is justified, and then try to coerce our actions by threatening terrorism from your coreligionists?
    Iran has also condemned Rushdie's knighthood, with hardliners issuing calls for his murder today. Mehdi Kuchakzadeh, a Tehran MP, declared: "It would be a hollow dream for the Queen of England to think that with such an action she could revive one of her mercenaries to oppose Islam... Rushdie died the moment the late Imam (Ayatollah Khomeini) issued the fatwa."
    Backed by the Government, the Pakistan parliament today voted unanimously in favour of a resolution calling on Britain to withdraw the proferred knighthood because it is an insult to "the sentiments of Muslims across the world" and created religious hatred....
    And what about the possibility that Muslim politicians' calls for murder and praise of terrorism is causing religious hostility, and even well-justified religious hatred for their fascistic brand of Islam? (I use "fascism" advisedly here, and I believe correctly.) "Sher Afgan Khan Niazi, the Minister for Parliamentary Affairs who proposed the resolution, called Rushdie a blasphemer. 'Every religion should be respected,' he told the National Assembly." No, not your version of your religion: That should get no respect at all.
    From later in the article:
    Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari, the Secretary-General of the Muslim Council of Britain, today added his voice to the chorus of disapproval of the knighthood. "Salman Rushdie earned notoriety amongst Muslims for the highly insulting and blasphemous manner in which he portrayed early Islamic figures," he said. "The granting of a knighthood to him can only do harm to the image of our country in the eyes of hundreds of millions of Muslims across the world. Many will interpret the knighthood as a final contemptuous parting gift from Tony Blair to the Muslim world."
    I would think more highly of Dr. Bari if he also made, alongside this, the following statement to the world's Muslims:
    Those who call for Rushdie's murder earned notoriety amongs Westerners for the highly immoral and contemptible manner in which they have acted. The repetition of this call can only do harm to the image of our religion in the eyes of hundreds of millions of people across the world. Many will interpret the renewed calls for his death as another contemptuous gift from the Muslim world to those whose good opinion Muslims claim to seek.
    If he has made such statements that weren't reported by the media, please let me know about them so I can properly report on them. Likewise, I would like to praise Muslim leaders who condemn the renewed calls for Rushdie's death, and the use of threats of Muslim terrorism as an attempt at coercion -- please e-mail me pointers to such praise, so I can give it proper credit.
    Meantime, many thanks to the Queen and her advisors on this. There are times to be politic, and there are times to speak out in defense of what we believe -- religious freedom and resistance to would-be religious murderers -- even when restating our beliefs can rankle the sentiments of others.
    Thanks to InstaPundit for the pointer.
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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Quote Originally Posted by londonandlawson View Post
    People need to stop being so PC when dealing with radical Islam...how long can people ignore the 800 pound gorilla thrashing about in the room?
    See Europe.
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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    The Plot Against America - alternate history novel where Charles Lindbergh is elected U.S. President in 1940 <--i bet the authors killer shot himself



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    Re: Muslim world inflamed by Rushdie knighthood

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    The truly funny ones do not need any modification whatsoever. Not close to on topic? With the topic being Muslim outrage promoting violence I'd say it's spot on. And as far as your "generalization" statement... it's not. The sheer numbers by which these people promoting killing the infidels turn out speak volumes.

    It's not spot on, or it's not a generalization?
    I'd say if I can find one person where the generalization is not applicable then the generalization is too heavy. And besides, how hard can it be to just add "fanatic" or "extremist" or "fundamentalist" or any of such wordings before the generalization? I mean, i know around 10 Muslims personally, of which none of them would ever promote violence. How many Muslims do you personally know would?
    But about those fundamentalist islamists having the tendancy to promote violence in their outrage is indeed on topic. On that field i stand corrected.
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