No MSM bias to see here... move along..

[SteveW]

Ah yeah, the good ole' "gone off-topic" complaint from the guy who made a stink out of the mention of a media whore conservative blogger and drove it off the rails. Does your own repetitiveness ever get old to you?

otoc, nobody cares if things go off a bit. It'll come back. It always does.

But it could be called "otoc's Diversions".

Nah, then we'd have to change every thread title.

And FWIW, that ain't the Wall Street Journal. Your extensive research had me a bit confused there.

I like to think of it as the "TicToc Paradox"......where things are never as they appear.

[AMDScooter]

Shush guys... I'm waiting to see what could possibly one up the use of easily distracted squirrels!

[Dutchcedar]

^^^ woof woof.

[Keven]

I'm sure the lefties will scream, but gun sales are up in Colorado 41% since the Aurora movie theater shooting.

We all know that "what ifs". Regardless, there are years of evidence proving that a responsible trained citizen with a concealed weapon can stop or prevent violent crimes from occurring.

[otoc]

Ah yeah, the good ole' "gone off-topic" complaint from the guy who made a stink out of the mention of a media whore conservative blogger and drove it off the rails. Does your own repetitiveness ever get old to you?

Either grow a thicker skin or stop evaluating things with such duplicity. Look at how you guys describe anyone you call worse than libtards. So one mention of what I think Malkin and I drove it off the "rails"? How does your repetitiveness strike you dutch?

otoc, nobody cares if things go off a bit. It'll come back. It always does.

But it could be called "otoc's Diversions".

Nah, then we'd have to change every thread title.

Masterfully played even if it only evaluates my responses and not the diversion that brings it on.

I kept back to see how it gets back on track based on the posts. Great job dutch.

And FWIW, that ain't the Wall Street Journal. Your extensive research had me a bit confused there.

Ahhh, good. I thought that tactic might quickly bring you around to a realization that you posted a link to a listing of the ranking of 150 conservative sites and repeatedly posted you wanted me to combine Malkin sites for a higher ranking. Go to the author. Btw, since this is so important to you, he finally corrected his list.

[otoc]

I'm sure the lefties will scream, but gun sales are up in Colorado 41% since the Aurora movie theater shooting.

We all know that "what ifs". Regardless, there are years of evidence proving that a responsible trained citizen with a concealed weapon can stop or prevent violent crimes from occurring.

Glad you are sure about something.

Considering Colorado has some the most liberal gun laws, I was surprised no one stopped him with return fire.

Your 40% number reflects an increase of 1064 requests with no indication of whether or not these were people currently not owning guns.

Last year, one-day sales in Arizona jumped 60% after a gunman killed six people in a Tucson parking lot and wounded others, including then-U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

hmm, I don't remember hearing any screaming lefties back then.

[Keven]

Glad you are sure about something.

Are you just trying to pick fights for the sake of fighting? I think Dutch and Scooter have you unraveling before our very eyes.

Your 40% number reflects an increase of 1064 requests with no indication of whether or not these were people currently not owning guns.

Yeah, I'm sure the massive influx in people trying to buy guns after a shooing is because they all want to go deer hunting in the fall.

hmm, I don't remember hearing any screaming lefties back then.

I seem to remember a lot of screaming. Kind of the same screaming you hear now. "The 2nd Amendment gets people killed and Republicans/the NRA just wants to keep guns in the hands of the next Jared Loughner/James Holmes!!!!!!"

[otoc]

Are you just trying to pick fights for the sake of fighting? I think Dutch and Scooter have you unraveling before our very eyes.

Considering Colorado has some the most liberal gun laws, I was surprised no one stopped him with return fire.



Yeah, I'm sure the massive influx in people trying to buy guns after a shooing is because they all want to go deer hunting in the fall.



I seem to remember a lot of screaming. Kind of the same screaming you hear now. "The 2nd Amendment gets people killed and Republicans/the NRA just wants to keep guns in the hands of the next XXXXXXXXX!!!!!!"

Really? Simply answering a post with no attack is an attack in your eyes? I'm the one unraveling? Interesting.

Since you are so sure, and I'm sure you could find some wingnut on the left who immediately called for gun law reform immediately after the Gifford shooting, what is the significance of that? That there are reactionaries? Even the numbers you throw around have no true meaning other than people react. I certainly haven't seen anything to the extreme of your perceived whacked out quote and if you show a link, I'd say it was a whacked out sentiment. Regardless, I think the uptick is shown in your article that the type of purchase has nothing to do with deer hunting:

"It's self-protection handguns and military-type firearms."

As to your point about statistics, carrying, violent crime: the only evidence I see in these cases of violent crime is that liberal gun laws have no effect.

As to hands of the next?
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Biddeford man arrested with guns now faces federal charges

With that said, since the distraction around here is if I simply post a response I'm "picking a fight", I'm done. Looking forward to reading your response.

[Keven]

Regardless, I think the uptick is shown in your article that the type of purchase has nothing to do with deer hunting

Yes, that's the point I was trying to make. People realizing that the police can't protect them from everything. People in Colorado are apparently deciding that now is the time to own a firearm for their (and their families) personal protection.

As to your point about statistics, carrying, violent crime: the only evidence I see in these cases of violent crime is that liberal gun laws have no effect.

I don't see a point in providing my evidence if you're just going to provide evidence to the contrary. I see how things work here. Scoot posts a chart. You post a chart contradicting him, and then everybody bickers about the charts for the next three pages of the thread.

[Dutchcedar]

I kept back to see how it gets back on track based on the posts.

Man, that's so freaking cool of you not to have unleashed your best at the unworthy right wingers who use such crass language as "libtards". Based on your post tracking, how did it turn out... in your opinion? Did ya shut the heathens down? Did ya get your point across without goin' for the gullet?

You da man!!!

[BlackDragon24]

Are you just trying to pick fights for the sake of fighting? I think Dutch and Scooter have you unraveling before our very eyes.



Yeah, I'm sure the massive influx in people trying to buy guns after a shooing is because they all want to go deer hunting in the fall.



I seem to remember a lot of screaming. Kind of the same screaming you hear now. "The 2nd Amendment gets people killed and Republicans/the NRA just wants to keep guns in the hands of the next Jared Loughner/James Holmes!!!!!!"

I was one of those lefties screamin' and I'll own it just like I own it now. But it isn't that the second amendment kills people and that the NRA wants to put guns into the hands of Loughner's and Holmes'. It's that guns kill people, and no amount of fancy rhetoric from the NRA is going to convince me otherwise.

[AMDScooter]

I was one of those lefties screamin' and I'll own it just like I own it now. But it isn't that the second amendment kills people and that the NRA wants to put guns into the hands of Loughner's and Holmes'. It's that guns kill people, and no amount of fancy rhetoric from the NRA is going to convince me otherwise.

People kill people.. and no amount of fancy rhetoric from the anti-gun lobby is going to convince me otherwise.

And there is issue in a nutshell.

[bk94si]

The lefties are always screaming about more gun control. What about movie content control, anti-depressant control, video game control? Better yet, get rid of anti-carry laws so people don't have to cower defenseless. If there were a dozen people in the theater with guns, he wouldn't have been able to shoot so many people.

[kbohip]

I'm sure the lefties will scream, but gun sales are up in Colorado 41% since the Aurora movie theater shooting.

We all know that "what ifs". Regardless, there are years of evidence proving that a responsible trained citizen with a concealed weapon can stop or prevent violent crimes from occurring.

I actually still don't own a gun, but after the theater shooting, for the first time in my life I'm really considering getting one. I have a couple of friends who are policemen in Aurora, and they wonder in amazement why I don't have one. Way back in my early twenties, I used to go camping with one of those guys, before he became a cop. He was very carefree, and neither one of us was at all concerned about sleeping in a tent with nary a single weapon.

Fast forward 5 year later after he had become a cop. Totally different guy. Now, he won't leave his house without his gun, and he's uneasy if we go camping. He won't for instance camp in a tent anymore, and even if we go in his camper, he sleeps with his gun right by his side. I asked him why he feels like he needs it by him at all times, and he replied that if I knew and saw the things he did, I wouldn't ask.

I think horrible events like Columbine and the theater shooting really give people a glimpse of what people like my cop friends deal with on a daily basis. Most Americans are far removed from the violence that happens every day right under their noses, and even though we all hear about the random homicide here and there, we just can't relate to it. Things like the theater shooting put us into the "what if I was there" mindset, and we can't help but wonder what we personally would have done to protect our wives and kids in that situation.

Much like the people on the planes headed towards the twin towers years ago were completely unprepared for any situation like that, no one would've in their wildest dreams have given a thought to what was to happen in that theater that night. I can tell you this though, if there's ever a copycat that walks into a theater here and tries that crap again, he's in for a rude reception.

[bk94si]

yep, I have guns and a carry permit but rarely carry. I'm thinking I need to carry more often.