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  1. #9616
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    Re: Economic News/Discussion

    He was for it before he was against it before he was for it again....eh, whatever.

    Paul Ryan Reverses Himself Yet Again On Medicare Cuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    He was for it before he was against it before he was for it again....eh, whatever.
    Bamma's a floppin' douchebag all right. Just surprised to see you criticize him so openly.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Is that what he said? Think you've got "liberal-headline-itis" BD. I mean, it's quality spin to make putting the axe to that piece of sh*t ACA outta our misery.. but geesus.

    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Oh no he's consistent in his hatred of Obamacare. He's just back to liking the part of it that he ran against as VP...you know...the medicare "cost savings" that suddenly became "cuts" that have suddenly become "cost savings" again.

    Paul Ryan is like the criminal who still won't confess to the crime even as he's watching himself commit the crime on tape while he's in handcuffs at the police station. It takes a special person to be that deep in denial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Oh no he's consistent in his hatred of Obamacare. He's just back to liking the part of it that he ran against as VP...you know...the medicare "cost savings" that suddenly became "cuts" that have suddenly become "cost savings" again.

    Paul Ryan is like the criminal who still won't confess to the crime even as he's watching himself commit the crime on tape while he's in handcuffs at the police station. It takes a special person to be that deep in denial.
    Like a criminal? Jeez. Cutting [the growth rate of] spending the people's money is like crime in the eyes of liberals. Why is that not a surprise?

    Your guy's ways to cut spending? Stop childrens' White House tours and leave the roads to Yellowstone un-plowed. Pure genius there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Oh no he's consistent in his hatred of Obamacare. He's just back to liking the part of it that he ran against as VP...you know...the medicare "cost savings" that suddenly became "cuts" that have suddenly become "cost savings" again.

    Paul Ryan is like the criminal who still won't confess to the crime even as he's watching himself commit the crime on tape while he's in handcuffs at the police station. It takes a special person to be that deep in denial.
    Its funnay as hell to read a steamy pile like this and then have you blamin' those eebil repuggies of ph33r mongerin'.



    It's criminal to have a balanced budget. prolly why nobama has not bothered with one since he took office.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Its funnay as hell to read a steamy pile like this and then have you blamin' those eebil repuggies of ph33r mongerin'.



    It's criminal to have a balanced budget. prolly why nobama has not bothered with one since he took office.
    Lol. It seems the fractures part of the GOP is doing fine on that fear part without BDs help. Of course I don't read such things here, including reasonable voices in your party calling for working with the elected president.

    Balanced budget? Looking into the past on that topic I see "he who should not be named" never balanced a budget and he wasn't left with a mess that rivaled the Great Depression. On the other hand federal spending is down while government layoffs have added a half point to the unemployment rate. Seems like when you get what you wish it isn't acknowledged as if Obama needs to be evaluated in a perfect light. In the past, a balanced budget was never a switch to be turned on. It was a dimmer turning over a period of ten years because of the economic impact.
    Thomas Jefferson to John Page Fairfeilds Dec: 25. 1762.
    ... But the old-fellows say we must read to gain knowledge; and gain knowledge to make us happy and be admired. Mere jargon! Is there any such thing as happiness in this world? No: And as for admiration I am sure the man who powders most, parfumes most, embroiders most, and talks most nonsense, is most admired.

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    ^^^Its the reading comprehension issue I have been talking about.

    Somehow, someway, my analogy of Paul Ryan "getting busted for being a flip-flopper and not admitting it" got twisted into "its criminal to have a balanced budget."

    Not much hope for us me thinks. Just let them keep reading Breitbart and Daily Caller. It's more fun to point and laugh than it is to debate, at this point anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Its funnay as hell to read a steamy pile like this and then have you blamin' those eebil repuggies of ph33r mongerin'.



    It's criminal to have a balanced budget. prolly why nobama has not bothered with one since he took office.
    Fear mongering?

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    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Lol. It seems the fractures part of the GOP is doing fine on that fear part without BDs help. Of course I don't read such things here, including reasonable voices in your party calling for working with the elected president.

    Balanced budget? Looking into the past on that topic I see "he who should not be named" never balanced a budget and he wasn't left with a mess that rivaled the Great Depression. On the other hand federal spending is down while government layoffs have added a half point to the unemployment rate. Seems like when you get what you wish it isn't acknowledged as if Obama needs to be evaluated in a perfect light. In the past, a balanced budget was never a switch to be turned on. It was a dimmer turning over a period of ten years because of the economic impact.

    ^^^ Alan Colmes talking points straight from the White House?



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    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Lol. It seems the fractures part of the GOP is doing fine on that fear part without BDs help. Of course I don't read such things here, including reasonable voices in your party calling for working with the elected president.

    Balanced budget? Looking into the past on that topic I see "he who should not be named" never balanced a budget and he wasn't left with a mess that rivaled the Great Depression. On the other hand federal spending is down while government layoffs have added a half point to the unemployment rate. Seems like when you get what you wish it isn't acknowledged as if Obama needs to be evaluated in a perfect light. In the past, a balanced budget was never a switch to be turned on. It was a dimmer turning over a period of ten years because of the economic impact.
    Tictoc in regular forum I see. The only the only "reasonable" people you see are the ones willing to go nobama's way.. go figure. The hive speaks.

    Wanna mince words about a "balanced" budget? Table it. I'd be happy with a budget period at this point 5 years without one. But hey.. who on the left is counting any more anyhoo. The only reason we have a recession rivaling anything is because your boy god had no clue how to deal with a recession. Many presidents.. including GWB were handed recessions. They managed to come back without 6+ million people permanently outta the workforce and more people on gubberment assistance than any other time in history. But GWB is the dumb one.

    Of course all this is mishmashed in with your spin that I'm looking for "perfection" while you readily gloss over what an absolutely abysmal failure your messiah is by any measure.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Fear mongering?
    Ryan's rhetoric = criminal.
    Bamma vaporizing us citizens = crickets.

    Why don't people take the left seriously..
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


    -The Gipper


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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Ryan's rhetoric = criminal.
    Bamma vaporizing us citizens = crickets.

    Why don't people take the left seriously..
    LOL. Ok Scoot. Left says Paul Ryan is a flip-flopping douchebag. Right says Obama can vaporize US citizens. And the left is fear mongering, and the right is a super duper serial group who we should take uber super duper serial.

    I think you should look up the definition of fear mongering....then re-listen to what Rand Paul said on the Senate floor the other day during his 11 hour filibuster, and then get back to me.

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    Re: Economic News/Discussion

    UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WEEKLY CLAIMS REPORT SEASONALLY ADJUSTED DATA

    In the week ending March 9, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 332,000, a decrease of 10,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 342,000. The 4-week moving average was 346,750, a decrease of 2,750 from the previous week's revised average of 349,500.

    The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.4 percent for the week ending March 2, unchanged from the prior week's unrevised rate. The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending March 2 was 3,024,000, a decrease of 89,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 3,113,000. The 4-week moving average was 3,098,250, a decrease of 28,250 from the preceding week's revised average of 3,126,500.
    UNADJUSTED DATA
    The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 315,356 in the week ending March 9, a decrease of 20,324 from the previous week. There were 340,102 initial claims in the comparable week in 2012.

    The advance unadjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.7 percent during the week ending March 2, a decrease of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week's unrevised rate. The advance unadjusted number for persons claiming UI benefits in state programs totaled 3,474,738, a decrease of 136,324 from the preceding week's revised level of 3,611,062. A year earlier, the rate was 3.1 percent and the volume was 3,862,329.The total number of people claiming benefits in all programs for the week ending February 23 was 5,619,860, an increase of 217,967 from the previous week. There were 7,424,041 persons claiming benefits in all programs in the comparable week in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE WEEKLY CLAIMS REPORT SEASONALLY ADJUSTED DATA

    In the week ending March 9, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 332,000, a decrease of 10,000 from the previous week's revised figure of 342,000. The 4-week moving average was 346,750, a decrease of 2,750 from the previous week's revised average of 349,500.

    The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.4 percent for the week ending March 2, unchanged from the prior week's unrevised rate. The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending March 2 was 3,024,000, a decrease of 89,000 from the preceding week's revised level of 3,113,000. The 4-week moving average was 3,098,250, a decrease of 28,250 from the preceding week's revised average of 3,126,500.
    UNADJUSTED DATA
    The advance number of actual initial claims under state programs, unadjusted, totaled 315,356 in the week ending March 9, a decrease of 20,324 from the previous week. There were 340,102 initial claims in the comparable week in 2012.

    The advance unadjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.7 percent during the week ending March 2, a decrease of 0.1 percentage point from the prior week's unrevised rate. The advance unadjusted number for persons claiming UI benefits in state programs totaled 3,474,738, a decrease of 136,324 from the preceding week's revised level of 3,611,062. A year earlier, the rate was 3.1 percent and the volume was 3,862,329.The total number of people claiming benefits in all programs for the week ending February 23 was 5,619,860, an increase of 217,967 from the previous week. There were 7,424,041 persons claiming benefits in all programs in the comparable week in 2012
    Not really expecting this to stay on the decline much longer, though it remains to be seen whether or not all of these cuts are actually going to decrease employment (something we will see in the numbers above) or just decrease the number of full time employees and shift them to part time, keeping them employed but under-worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Right says Obama can vaporize US citizens.
    Truth is, he has already done that. Its tough to claim he can't or he won't when he already has.

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