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    Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    Has anyone ever changed a cooling fan in a Laptop?

    Any links you might know on how to do it.

    I need to replace a dead fan in a Dell.

    Thanks,
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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    wich dell? make sure the fan is not stuck or needs oiling.

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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    The fans have sealed bearings, absolutely do not put oil inside your laptop.
    You can PM me with your Dell laptop model number I have an extensive collection of Dell repair manuals. If I have what you need I can make you a PDF and email you directions. You will need the right tools however. Laptops are often put together using Torx screws, no standard. Another consideration is that on some laptops when the screws are removed they need to be replaced.That just depends on the particular laptop.I've only worked on a few Dell machines but I try and maintain current repair info.
    Keep in mind you may need 2-3 tools you don't currently have to do the job. The good news is that they are cheap and I'll let you know what you need and where you can locate the tools cheap.No more then $25 for everything.
    The fan may run $8-$10 depending on what it is.You may want to consider replacing the BIOS battery when you have the computer apart.

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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    support.dell.com will allow you to view the service manuals without any tech login needed. Regarding the tools needed, all I need in order to take apart a Latitude is a small slot-head and a #0 phillips head. I looked at 2 Inspiron service manuals, neither mentioned a Torx bit, one mentioned needing a hex-nut driver.
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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    Thanks! Found the Manual for the machine and copied it.

    I'll give it a try!

    Butch

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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    mlevy I did say that "Laptops are often put together using Torx screws"
    I didn't say that as an absolute.I've worked on a lot of different laptops and since Butch didn't mention which laptop he has I opted for general advice as best as I could give it, but thanks anyway for trying to make me sound like an idiot.

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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    Done!! Nothin to it!

    Thanks All!!

    Butch

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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    Quote Originally Posted by howieh60 View Post
    The fans have sealed bearings, absolutely do not put oil inside your laptop.
    You can PM me with your Dell laptop model number I have an extensive collection of Dell repair manuals. If I have what you need I can make you a PDF and email you directions. You will need the right tools however. Laptops are often put together using Torx screws, no standard. Another consideration is that on some laptops when the screws are removed they need to be replaced.That just depends on the particular laptop.I've only worked on a few Dell machines but I try and maintain current repair info.
    Keep in mind you may need 2-3 tools you don't currently have to do the job. The good news is that they are cheap and I'll let you know what you need and where you can locate the tools cheap.No more then $25 for everything.
    The fan may run $8-$10 depending on what it is.You may want to consider replacing the BIOS battery when you have the computer apart.
    What laptops have you taken apart that required Torx screws? No Dell laptop I have ever seen uses those. All use the Phillips screws. I own a D400, D600 and C400. I've worked on all D4XX, D6XX and D8XX series Latitudes. Edit - I see your correction on the Torx statement. I'm still curious as to what laptops have those if you don't mind.

    If the fan is really dead then his best bet is to find his model number and look on Google or Ebay though he should check Dell's website first to see if it's under warranty (http://support.dell.com).

    FYI, the BIOS doesn't have a battery. The CMOS does. I see no reason why he'd need to replace that. It's rare to have them go bad.
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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    I stand corrected on the COMOS
    FYI every COMPAQ I have taken apart has needed a TORX screwdriver.
    As for the battery going bad they only last a few years.Again Butch didn't indicate which laptop he owns just that it's a dell.
    have you ever replaced a Desktop mb battery?
    Some laptops have 2 sets of batteries, for instance Toshibia , and some models use a combination of screws and Torx, WHY? I have no idea.....
    Some laptop makers try and keep these machine proprietary which is why you sometimes need other tools.
    I offered to help Butch BTW not lecture him. I'm no Dell expert but as I mentioned I am prepared to work on a variety of different laptops.I've worked on alot of IBM Thinkpads and no, none of the ones I've worked on needed a TORX scewdriver.
    I don't work on as many computers as I used to, I have been on Hospice 3 times in the last year and a half and don't think as clearly as I used to probably because of all the pain meds I take.Example you caught me stumbling on the BIOS , COMOS issue, congratulations you are obviously smarter than I am.

    I'm not going to say anything else I feel as though I'm defending myself now.


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    Laptops with Torx screws http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question...1082412AAMibNN

    http://www.macupgrades.co.uk/store/p...products_id=81

    http://forum.brighthand.com/archive/...hp?t-9689.html look at the 1st post the guys laptop battery is going bad to boot and he needs TORX screwdriver

    Maintenance Tools

    To troubleshoot and repair laptop systems properly, you need a few basic tools. If you intend to troubleshoot and repair systems professionally, you may want to purchase many more specialized tools as well. These advanced tools enable you to more accurately diagnose problems and make jobs easier and faster. Here are the basic tools that should be in every troubleshooter’s toolbox:

    * Simple hand tools for basic disassembly and reassembly procedures, including a selection of flat-blade and Phillips screwdrivers (both medium and small sizes), tweezers, an IC extraction tool, and a parts grabber or hemostat. Most of these items are included in $10–$20 starter toolkits found at most computer stores. Although most of the same toolkits sold for conventional desktop systems will have these tools, for portable systems you may also need sets of smaller-sized flat-blade and Phillips screwdrivers and a set of small Torx drivers or Torx bits as well. For laptops, you may encounter Torx screws as small as T5, so consider purchasing a set including bits down to that size."This is taken from Upgrading and Repairing Laptops" one of 2 I have in my library for computer repair.

    Another story about TORX screws, In May 1997 I bought a laptop. I chose the Compaq brand because of the name, and the 1130T because of its price as a machine with a TFT panel, 16Mb of RAM and 1.08Gb of hard disk. I live quite close to the Compaq repair centre in Colchester, which is fortunate as I had to send it there for repairs during the one year warranty period.

    At the end of 1998 the CMOS battery died - the machine wouldn't remember the date/time, and then it failed to remember the CMOS setting. Luckily it can cope with this - it just takes a long time to boot, and beeps a lot while doing so.

    Naturally I wanted a new battery. But as this is a laptop, everyone knows you aren't allowed to open up the case - the parts inside aren't user-serviceable.

    So I called Compaq. They referred me to 'Out of Warranty Repairs'. They quoted me a fixed price of, wait for it, TWO HUNDRED POUNDS!! (For US readers, that's around $300). They also helpfully told me the part number, and that it would cost 1 to buy, but if I wanted one they would charge me 10, simply to process my order. Naturally this sounded silly, so I rang again another day, and got the same answer.

    Judging from prices being asked for machines of better specification, my Armada is only worth around 300-400, so this was out of the question.

    I proceeded to search the 'net for information on the Compaq Armada 1130T - I was looking for alternative service shops. It wasn't long before I found pages offering third-party hard disk kits, in the US. Likewise batteries were available. I also came upon the Compaq Aero FAQ, which definitely gave a lot of advice about upgrading obsolete laptops. At least one computer upgrading handbook also has a section which tells how to upgrade laptops - I saw it in a bookshop, and read it avidly.

    Finally I rang a local repair shop, who quoted me a range of prices to do an upgrade on both, depending on who I spoke to and how I phrased it. My suspicions were raised powerfully when they refused to allow me to watch the upgrade, for which they proposed to charge me 50.

    In the end I did it myself. This page is for the benefit of anyone else looking for info, as I was.
    Opening the Case - and learning about torx screws.

    The case is held together by black screws with an oval looking slot. Naturally they are made of soft metal, and tightened apparently by "Giganto - The Man With Giant Strength" (or a friend of his). You can open these using a standard flat-blade screwdriver. But they are not normal screws...

    Everyone knows there are flat-blade screws which have a slot, and phillips screws which have a cross pattern with a central recess. But few people know that there are also torx screws. These have 6 shallow flanges, rather than the 4 deep ones of the phillips, and a flat central area, rather than the recess. Unless you look carefully for the groove, the screw head just looks like a rivet. But these are what the Compaq Armada uses. The slot in the external screws would appear to be a combination version. I gather that manufacturers know that few people have these screwdrivers, and use them to keep people out of things they don't want unscrewed.

    You really do need a torx number 9 screwdriver. I bought a set of Draper tx-star (I think torx is a trade-name) for about 3 from a specialist hardware shop near me.

    Take the battery out - the button is at the front right, not on the right side as per the manual -


    Additionally I read that ALL Apple laptops use Torx screws, imagine that

    Lets see now, there Apple , Toshibia, Compaq, IBM, Nokia, HP just for starters. I'm sure I can probably find more
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    Re: Changing Fan In Dell Laptop??

    Quote Originally Posted by howieh60 View Post
    I stand corrected on the COMOS
    FYI every COMPAQ I have taken apart has needed a TORX screwdriver.
    As for the battery going bad they only last a few years.Again Butch didn't indicate which laptop he owns just that it's a dell.
    have you ever replaced a Desktop mb battery?
    Some laptops have 2 sets of batteries, for instance Toshibia , and some models use a combination of screws and Torx, WHY? I have no idea.....
    Some laptop makers try and keep these machine proprietary which is why you sometimes need other tools.
    I've taken apart Toshiba and IBM (Lenovo) laptops and they all had Phillips.

    I've never had to replace a CMOS battery in a laptop before. I've had to take them out to reset the CMOS to get rid of password protection though. I did notice that a Toshiba had the battery soldered to the motherboard once. That was stupid of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by howieh60 View Post
    I offered to help Butch BTW not lecture him. I'm no Dell expert but as I mentioned I am prepared to work on a variety of different laptops.I've worked on alot of IBM Thinkpads and no, none of the ones I've worked on needed a TORX scewdriver.
    I understand. I knew you were helping him. I didn't talk down to you as if you were an idiot and I apologize if you took it that way.

    Quote Originally Posted by howieh60 View Post
    I don't work on as many computers as I used to, I have been on Hospice 3 times in the last year and a half and don't think as clearly as I used to probably because of all the pain meds I take.Example you caught me stumbling on the BIOS , COMOS issue, congratulations you are obviously smarter than I am.

    I'm not going to say anything else I feel as though I'm defending myself now.
    It was just an FYI. It wasn't an "um" or anything like that to make you feel stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by howieh60 View Post
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    Glad to see you are a veteran too. I know quite a few Navy vets where I work and it's always great to trade stories of our branches and time in service.

    Quote Originally Posted by howieh60 View Post
    Additionally I read that ALL Apple laptops use Torx screws, imagine that

    Lets see now, there Apple , Toshibia, Compaq, IBM, Nokia, HP just for starters. I'm sure I can probably find more
    You have me there, I have never worked on a Mac and I doubt I will ever try to. People come to me with a Mac laptop and a dumb look on their face and I tell them to do an about face because I won't help them with it.

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