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    It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    I told myself 9 months ago that I was going to upgrade when AMD gets a quad CPU, and see which quad CPU is better, AMD/Intel. Well, the wait time has passed, and AMD is still sitting around with their thumbs up their a$$.

    So, I started doing some research on the Intel CoreDuo and quads. I ran into some threads where people were commenting that they really have no use for a quadcore at this time, as no applications use quad technology, let alone dual core. But it you run several apps at one time, it seems to work well.

    This made me think a little, perhaps now is not a wise time for a complete upgrade?

    I am running an AMD Opteron 165 dual core now (1800mhz) with a bit of an overclock (cant remember how much exactly), but it does max out at 2300mhz. I also have a gig of memory, TCCD/Brainpower stuff.

    I am thinking it may be a more wise move to buy a Opteron 185 (2600mhz) dual core for $250 and upgrade my X800GTO. I hate to sink money into old technology, and the 939 socket and memory are pretty much history.

    I figure this upgrade of $250 for a cpu, and a +/-$500 PCIe card would last me a couple of years atleast. And I can always use the new graphics card in my next build.

    My origional thinking was to do a complete new build, perhaps $2500 with a new quad CPU, DX10, DDR2/3 memory, and etc. But the cost versus performance gains have me wondering if it makes any sense. With $750, I think I would have a pretty "zippy" computer again.

    So, what do you think? Does this make sense? Is it a wise plan?
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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    IMO just upgrade your graphics card and you will be in pretty good shape. might try ocing that opteron 165 some before you plunk down money for a faster opteron. maybe grab another gig of ram and a new vid card and that will get you buy quite a while. your techs not dead yet.

    a few months ago i faced a similar decision. i was on 939 tech athlon 64 3200+ but i was a bit worse off lol. while my motherboard supported the newer dual core's with a bios update, i couldn't upgrade the video card because i didn't have pci express. which mean a new mobo, cpu, memory, just about everything moving to newer boards. so i went ahead and did a new system build. but in your situation your in pretty good shape. you still have plenty of upgrade paths.
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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    My 165 Opty maxed out around 2.3 ghz, and could get it to 2.4, but I dont like to keep them running at that speed. I think I am running it at 2.2 during the hot summer months.

    I guess your saying that ~300mhz (perhaps 500mhz) on an OC of a 185 is not worth it? When you think of it that way, it is not a good investment.

    On the other hand, if I upgrade that X800GTO to a 8800GTX (which I am seriously looking at), that would probably be the best bang for $$.

    Thanks for your reply Modru, good points well taken..
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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    yup, go for the gtx + another gig of ram. when needed either try to clock it higher or get a faster chip later on. if u dont fold or so u dont need it much unless u do multitasking. thats where it shines. in most of the games up to now +- dual core is the way. u will see games become more nad more dependent on the 3rd and 4th core..

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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    ya just grab the extra ram and a nice video card and you will be set for a while.

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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    ps yes the cpu will bottleneck it some but still uber improvement compared to what u got now.
    dan

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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    I have a problem putting good $$ into non-DDR2/3 memory. The memory is old and dead just like all the others in PC history.

    I am sold on the 8800GTX, I think it is a good deal, as far as time is concerned.

    I hate living with 1 gig ram, but I feel it is not worth the price and the risk of grying to fit another 2 sticks into my DFI board?
    DFI NF4 Ultra-D, 165 Opteron. 9x275 1:1, OCZ 3200 2x512 TCCD, Sapphire X800GTO Fireblade, Raptor 74, Benq 1640, Liteon 166S DVD, Antec 660 Perf.+, Fortron Blue 500, Viewsonic VX910, XPsp2, Herc. GTXP 6.1, Z640

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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    BTW, thanks to all.

    I know I have not been around much, but with 5k+ posts, well, the old timers know me well.
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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    If the software used on the quad core CPU is going to improve performance substantially, then, yes.

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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    Depends... if all you use your computer for is gaming, then probably not. However, if you multi-task like crazy in the background while playing games, then yes, Quad Core is worth it. The low-end quads can are pretty cheap at $270.


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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    Quote Originally Posted by danny5 View Post
    I have a problem putting good $$ into non-DDR2/3 memory. The memory is old and dead just like all the others in PC history.

    I am sold on the 8800GTX, I think it is a good deal, as far as time is concerned.

    I hate living with 1 gig ram, but I feel it is not worth the price and the risk of grying to fit another 2 sticks into my DFI board?
    I was in the same situation as you were Danny. I had an Opteron 165 also, but I had it clocked at 2.8ghz and I had 2gb of PC3200DDR Patriot. I went ahead and bought the Q6600 and so far am happy with my purchase. Lol, I've already got it oc'd to 3ghz and I haven't even started trying yet. The main reason I went ahead with the upgrade is seeing how much money I can still get out of my old Patriot DDR. I just saw 2gb sell for $112 on Ebay. I only spent $63 for 2gb Patriot DDR2. To me it was worth the money to upgrade right now. I actually do use the Quad core with DVD Shrink, but mostly I got it because it was only around $60 more than the comparable dual core and with the Quad I'll be set for Crysis and beyond.

    Have you looked to see how much money you can get for your old stuff yet?

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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    Actually Kbohip, I was intending to use my current system as me 2nd (download) PC, as my old one is getting old.

    Unfortunately, I could not get my 165 to 2.8, as luck would have it.
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    Re: It is worth the cost for Quadcore?

    As a side note, if you do decide to upgrade your Opty, I'm sure someone here (me) would be interested if you posted the 165 for sale.


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