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  1. #16
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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    An aside: You do know that quote in your signature is false, right?

    http://snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp
    Promote then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.

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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    No I didn't so I suppose I should change it.
    Last edited by no2guncntrl; 01-18-2009 at 01:58 PM.

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    South Korea should follow the well trodden European Union path: Just buy off the North's top brass.

    Promise them fat pensions and nice new houses, booze and hot and cold running women. They'll gladly hand over the country. I mean, who wants to live in a toilet like that, even if you are a camp guard?

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    ^ They won't do it. This goes back thousands of years.
    Once one really pi**es a Korean off, forget it. Makes
    it even more of an affront if the person is from the
    same race. Koreans take that kinda stuff serious, and
    other than a full parade like apology, it's not gonna
    happen.

    They are very mercurial people.

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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    My pop's served in the Korean conflict, he said that the Chineese were "like dirty dogs" compared to the Korean people, he said that the Chineese were willing to do anything for what ever they wanted at the time- "they had very little humanity". He never spoke much about the war he was in- he was a Marine.

    My mom's best friend (Yasue) is from Pre WWII Okinowia, Japan, she says the Japaneese and Chineese both despise the Korren people. She says that the Korens are "dirty people" that can't be trusted, and that the Chineese are below dogs because they have no self-pride.

    For what ever that is worth.

    I personally have no contacts with Koren's except for the local "Chineese food palace"- the people that own the place are very nice people and always treat me great when I order take out.
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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    Is your Chinese food palace like this one?:




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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    Japanese always tried to invade and take over
    Goguryeo [Northern/Central Kingdom. There were 3].
    There was a certain Admiral back in the 1500's
    that took the Japanese to task with a tiny navy
    using the "Turtle" Ship. The Japanese sent many
    a Samurai to the Korean peninsula and they pulled
    really barbaric deeds against coastal villagers, but
    when it came time for payback, the Admiral took it to
    em. Tore em up pretty bad. He won 23 naval
    battles against a largely superior force. That's
    pretty darn good.

    Yi Sun-sin (April 28, 1545 – December 16, 1598), also commonly transliterated Yi Soon-shin or Lee Sun-shin, Korean: 이순신) was a Korean naval commander noted for his victories against the Japanese navy during the Japanese invasions of Korea (1592-1598) during the Joseon Dynasty. He led the victories as the commander of the Gyeongsang, Jeolla, and Chungcheong provincial navies. His title of Samdo Sugun Tongjesa (Hangul : 삼도수군통제사, Hanja : 三道水軍統制使), literally meaning "Naval Commander of the Three Provinces" was to remain as the title of the commander of the operating arm of the Korean navy until 1896. Yi is also known for his innovative use of the turtle ship (거북선). He is reputed to be one of the few admirals to have been victorious in every naval battle (at least 23) in which he commanded.[1]

    The Chinese [Ming] also used to mess with them,
    but took more a "parent" type attitude towards
    Goroeayu and later dynasties . Not that wouldn't
    pull the rug out from under them, but the peoples
    of early Korea became pretty adept at making
    things work without hardly any resources.
    If you've ever had a bowl winter Kimchi,
    you'll know what I'm talking about..WOW !
    It's good after ya get the smell down a bit, but
    best be by a latrine once in ya. There are a lot
    different variates of Kimchi. Not just summer
    or winter. For instance how bout some red radish
    winter kimchi.

    =

    Anyway they have their 6 covered, and they had many a
    century to get it down to a fine line. It's going
    to real hard to bring peace to both the Northern
    and Southern Korea's politics withstanding. LOT of
    mistrust there.

    You do NOT want to mess with a ROK special services
    person. They'll friggin' eat ya. Koreans have been
    in their part of the world hundreds of years before
    Christ. They've been through the ringer.

    I got a lot of respect for em. I remember a family
    protecting their liq store during the early 90's L.A.
    riots. They were out there in front armed and not
    asking if you were friend or foe. Out of that one
    strip mall that was burned so bad, their place was
    one of a couple that was not looted.

    I guess as you all can tell, I have WAY too much
    times on my hands tonight..

    PS Just for sh*t and giggles, go to a Korean
    eats and ask for a serving of their winter
    Kimchi for the heck of it. I'd like to know
    what you think of it.
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    Had to go look for this thread. So here we are today

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...issile-launch/

    Nothing we can do? No. Nothing we want to do.

    The entire turnaround is amazing.

    Oh and lets add some interesting "spice" to the pitiful stew

    [Japanese newspaper] Sankei said in a separate dispatch from Washington that 15 personnel from the Iranian satellite and missile development company Shahid Hemmat Industrial Group are staying in North Korea at the invitation of the North Korean government.
    Quoting unnamed intelligence sources in Washington it said are close to North Korean affairs, Sankei said the Iranians are likely to join North Korean preparations for the launch and also observe it. The report said North Korea sent missile experts to Iran when it launched a satellite in February.
    North Korea is believed to have sold missiles to Iran, and Iran's Safir-Omid space launch vehicle owes much to the North's Taepodong missile.
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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimzinsocal View Post
    Had to go look for this thread. So here we are today

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/firs...issile-launch/

    Nothing we can do? No. Nothing we want to do.

    The entire turnaround is amazing.

    Oh and lets add some interesting "spice" to the pitiful stew

    [Japanese newspaper] Sankei said in a separate dispatch from Washington that 15 personnel from the Iranian satellite and missile development company Shahid Hemmat Industrial Group are staying in North Korea at the invitation of the North Korean government.
    Quoting unnamed intelligence sources in Washington it said are close to North Korean affairs, Sankei said the Iranians are likely to join North Korean preparations for the launch and also observe it. The report said North Korea sent missile experts to Iran when it launched a satellite in February.
    North Korea is believed to have sold missiles to Iran, and Iran's Safir-Omid space launch vehicle owes much to the North's Taepodong missile.
    Best quote from that article:

    "I think if we had an aberrant missile, one that was headed for Hawaii, that looked like it was headed for Hawaii or something like that, we might consider it," Gates said. "But I don't think we have any plans to do anything like that at this point."

    Might consider it? Might!?!?!?! "Sir, we have a missile heading towards Hawaii! What our your orders?"

    "Hmmm, yea, ummm ok. Let's not get all excited about this. We've seen things show up on radar heading from Asia before heading to Hawaii, and nothing much ever came of that."

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    Well they launched their crappy missile. If I read correctly the thing failed
    to insert the sat it orbit.

    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapc...ion/index.html

    So now well hear about this for a week nonstop on the tube.

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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    We'll huff and we'll puff and we'll get really, really ready to sit down and talk if you do this kinda sheet again...
    U.N. Security Council diplomats have told Reuters on condition of anonymity that no country was considering imposing new sanctions but the starting point could be discussing a resolution for the stricter enforcement of earlier sanctions.

    Both Russia and China have made clear they would block new sanctions by the Security Council, where they have veto power.

    “If the United States and Japan insist on a new resolution and new sanctions at the United Nations, China will most likely use its veto,” said Shi Yinhong, professor of international security at Renmin University in Beijing.
    http://pajamasmedia.com/richardferna...-foiled-again/

    I see we're back to the toughness of anonymity for the people who talk about it. Spineless bastages.

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    ^^the title is quote if the day material

    Curses, foiled again

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    Looks like Bolton had things about right...

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,512585,00.html

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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    And again? Notice the ever so popular Reality V Spin game Scooter and I mentioned yesterday

    Reality: North Korea ignores everyone including Obama

    The Spin by "artful dodger" Obama

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090405/...pr_wh/eu_obama

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    ^^and by artful dodger Im not thinking of some character out of a Dickens novel.[pickpocket]

    More like this

    http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/warriorshtm/artfuldodger.htm

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