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  1. #46
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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    ^^^ What's stopping them? Obama & the UN's limp d*ck approach? Obama's election has all the rogue states shifting their nuke programs into high gear. They know he doesn't wanna deal with foreign policy issues for 2 reasons:

    1) He has no experience and his early attempts went "kablooey" in his face. He went on his post election "world tour" and the result was a fat ol' sh*t sandwich from Iran, Israel, NATO.. the list goes on. They all uniformly told him to take his "carrots and sticks" and shovem'.

    2) He's too busy bankrupting our country to be bothered to do any more than offer up platitudes to our enemies.

    Bring back Jimmay Carter!
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    I wonder if the Nork nuke test was done for the benefit of Iran. The rat in the belfry is that whatever the Norks do in the way of nukes is likely a buddy-buddy deal with Achmydick'sinajar.

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    I love how North Korea's asshattery is transformed into Obama being weak, cowardly, socialistic, etc etc. Thanks for reminding me of the shallowness of thought, as if I needed any further reminder.
    Promote then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangutan View Post
    I love how North Korea's asshattery is transformed into Obama being weak, cowardly, socialistic, etc etc. Thanks for reminding me of the shallowness of thought, as if I needed any further reminder.
    It doesn't matter what he does. It won't please anyone on this forum.
    If he does nothing, he is slammed for being a coward, if he reacts with force he will be slammed because he promised to seek alternatives to violence in his campaign.


    As another election draws near; the G.O.P. are yet again filled with a stupid confidence that the they will win the White House. What they don't realize about people like Trump, Carson, and Cruz is that their rhetoric only resonates within an echo chamber, but not the American people. They live in an illusion of falsehood and distorted truth and only seek information and opinions that confirm these beliefs and instantly reject anything that contradicts them because only their opinions matter. Their notion of freedom is freedom for themselves and those alike to them, but not the rest of the country which has changed.
    These are the reasons why the G.O.P is set to lose in 2016. And when that happens, rest assured that they will have myriad of conspiracy theories blaming everyone and everything from the liberal media, to Oprah, to welfare moms, and pretty much everyone but their own disgusting selves.



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    ^^^ wow you 2 guys have all the Obama bases covered

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinC939 View Post
    It doesn't matter what he does. It won't please anyone on this forum.
    If he does nothing, he is slammed for being a coward, if he reacts with force he will be slammed because he promised to seek alternatives to violence in his campaign.


    That’s politics for you. It works the same for all presidents why should Obama be any different?

    Blame Bush that always seems to work…


    Violence won’t work its way too late for that. Maybe more money for missile defense might help. Moving nuclear weapons into Japan might get China to act. It seems sanctions are just a temporary fix so that won’t work. We pay Obama to make those decisions and so far it seems we aren’t getting our money’s worth.
    Last edited by tucker; 05-27-2009 at 11:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Blame Bush that always seems to work…
    Take a good look at this forum 4 years ago.

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    Take a good look at this forum 4 years ago.
    No need to look that far back seems not a day goes by and someone is still doing it. Guess old habits are hard to break sure does help in distracting from the current facts about this inexperienced president.

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    Depends if you still want to play World Police. Maybe it's best left to the Chinese, Russian, South Koreans and Japanese to sort out.

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    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2009071902186s

    N. Korea's Hard-Labor Camps: On the Diplomatic Back Burner

    By Blaine Harden
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Monday, July 20, 2009

    SEOUL -- Images and accounts of the North Korean gulag become sharper, more harrowing and more accessible with each passing year.

    A distillation of testimony from survivors and former guards, newly published by the Korean Bar Association, details the daily lives of 200,000 political prisoners estimated to be in the camps: Eating a diet of mostly corn and salt, they lose their teeth, their gums turn black, their bones weaken and, as they age, they hunch over at the waist. Most work 12- to 15-hour days until they die of malnutrition-related illnesses, usually around the age of 50. Allowed just one set of clothes, they live and die in rags, without soap, socks, underclothes or sanitary napkins.
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    Re: Korean Peace Treaty?

    Continued from above.

    Spoiler!
    Promote then, as an object of primary importance, institutions for the general diffusion of knowledge. In proportion as the structure of a government gives force to public opinion, it is essential that public opinion should be enlightened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enmore View Post
    Depends if you still want to play World Police. Maybe it's best left to the Chinese, Russian, South Koreans and Japanese to sort out.
    Hopefully before the fools set themselves up to be threatened with nukes.

    The more I think about it, the less sense it makes for them to carry this.
    "We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government....

    Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business."

    William Jennings Bryan.

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    I also doubt that the camps are only filled with NKs. I wouldn't be surprised to discover that this might be one of the few jobs the Chinese may outsource.
    "We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government....

    Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business."

    William Jennings Bryan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enmore View Post
    Depends if you still want to play World Police. Maybe it's best left to the Chinese, Russian, South Koreans and Japanese to sort out.
    I really wish we would stop playing world police. I wish we'd stop playing world savior, and providing assistance to anyone who needs it. If it doesnt affect America we shouldnt be our problem. Iran election problems? Not our problem. NK threatens Japan, not our problem. Iran threatens us, our problem. NK threatens hawaii, our problem.

    However this will never happen. We will always be sticking our nose in other countries affairs and assisting places that wouldnt even think of ever helping us.

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    Clinton visits the pits of the world

    Bill Clinton arrives in North Korea to free journalists

    Leo Lewis

    Bill Clinton is understood to have landed in Pyongyang earlier today for a surprise visit to North Korea as relations between the United States and the regime continue to sour and mystery surrounds the health of its enigmatic leader, Kim Jong Il.

    The Korean Central News Agency said in a bulletin this afternoon that the former US President had been greeted at Pyongyang airport by two senior government figures — the vice-president of the presidium of North Korea's parliament and the Deputy Foreign Minister.

    "A little girl presented a bouquet to Bill Clinton," the report said.

    Diplomatic sources suggest that Mr Clinton, who is the highest-profile American to visit North Korea since Madeleine Albright's trip nine years ago, may be granted an audience with the Dear Leader today.

    Reports from Seoul based on South Korean intelligence suggest that Mr Clinton will use the two-day trip to "negotiate robustly" for the release of two American journalists who are serving 12 years of hard labour in a North Korean prison.

    Laura Ling and Euna Lee, who were both working for a television company run by Mr Clinton's former Vice-President, Al Gore, were arrested for a "grave", though unspecified, crime on the North Korea-China border earlier this year.

    The two were imprisoned for committing "hostile acts" and for plotting a smear campaign over human rights issues.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6738245.ece

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