Battlefield 3

[Brandito]

Since when do shadows look good in BF2? They've always just looked like spatterings of 50% transparency black blocks that are about 8 inches wide barfed all over the place. This is true for both BF2 and 2142. Since they actually make the game look worse, I always disable them.

If you are utilizing an intended game feature, then you are not cheating and you are not exploiting. That's your business. If you care more about kills than graphics yourself, then you should do the same. I'm all about having a good time. Such is the point of playing a game. It's supposed to be entertainment. Not being #1 on the score board hasn't meant much to me in games since I was a small child. Somewhere along the way I think most people figure out that they've been playing for the wrong reasons.

people can play for any reason they like, there are no wrong reasons to game, any reason a person may have would be considered legit by me.

shadows look better than no shadows to me in bf2. we're talking about lighting anyways, looking into a building from the outside it looks silly if the inside is as bright as the outside.

[3dfxrain]

http://www.digitalbattle.com/2007/10...3-leaked-info/

A tipster sent us PDF document which looked like an outline of features for Battlefield 3. The three page document is apparently prepared for investors which should get it by December of this year. It details basic features of BF3, and are as listed:
Release in late 2008
Powered by “Frostbite DX”
Set in year modern day (just like BF2, ed.)
Will ship with 8 maps, each supporting up to 40-players per team
Two playable factions, NATO and MEC (Middle Eastern Coalition)
Same “ticket-based” gameplay style as before
Maps are mostly urban, based in Middle East
Squads and Commanders are present, introduced are “Battalions” which consist of three to four squads.
Five playable classes; Sniper, Assault, Engineer, Medic and Support
Will feature 48 different vehicles (24 for each faction)
Will feature 34 different weapons (17 for each faction) and another 22 unlocks (for both factions), in total 56 different weapons.
Other unlocks include different types of ammunition, body armor, helmets, camouflage and accessories.
Possible public beta in “Summer 2008″
Online stats tracking, awards and “real world ranks”
“Soldier” feature, looks like MMO-styled characters and avatars
Ranked servers will be available for resellers weeks before the game ships (for testing, apparently, ed.)
In-game replay and recording feature
VoIP, friends list, in-game IM-client and “extensive clan support”
Built-in auto software updater (no more patches!, ed.)
Widows Vista and OS X (no XP?!, ed.)
Announcement and teaser trailer in January 2008.

A map is mentioned by name, called “Baghdad Burning”, and appears to be a massive urban map, similar to BF2’s very popular “Strike at Karkand”. The game is powered by “Frotbite DX”, currently the Frostbite engine is used in Battlefiled: Bad Company on PS3 and Xbox 360. The “DX” could refer to DirectX (10?), a PC version of the Frostbite engine.

Please note that none of this is confirmed, we’ve emailed a few people from EA and DICE (Battlefield developers) and will update the article as soon as we know more. Also note that we cannot, for obvious (legal) reasons, release the PDF document. Stay tuned for more info.

[Update 1] A few wanted to know if the document mentions in-game advertising, it does not, but wouldn’t be surprising, considering BF2142 had in-game advertising.

[Update 2] EA responded to the rumor with a “no comment” statement. Still waiting for a reply from DICE (which will probably be the same).

[Update 3] For clarification, the document doesn’t say that XP is not supported, it only lists Vista and OS X.

[Update 4] Further investigation reveals that EA DICE owns the domain “battlefield3.com” (not so important, since it was registered in 2004, so was battlefield4.com etc.). Still no reply from DICE. Stay tuned for further updates.

[Poci]

Not every one has the hardware to do that.
That's why there will always be options to turn things down.
If some one uses those options to gain an advantage, that's their prerogative.
(See BF2 Lighting setting example above)

The ones that dont have the hardware to run games at decent settings probably wont even know what BF is anyways.
A gamer knows his/her needs.
All others should stick to consoles and master cheif

[resd456]

new to me, sounds great

[3dfxrain]

Yeah, I hope its as good as Battlefield 2 was to me recently.

[urbeg]

I wanna see pictures.

[3dfxrain]

no pictures of it yet I think, it's too early

[tjdehya]

Ok we are in August and still no pics/videos or sneak peeks to be found anywhere on the web, I would thinks its safe to say that we wont be seeing BF3 in 2008. I would guess that if its comming, it will be 6 months or more after the release of Battlefield Heros.

[TBird761]

people can play for any reason they like, there are no wrong reasons to game, any reason a person may have would be considered legit by me.

I'm going to disagree with you whole-heartedly. There are many wrong reasons to play a game, but they can only be defined by the person playing. It's more of a self-realization than something you can check against a check list someone else made.

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The ones that dont have the hardware to run games at decent settings probably wont even know what BF is anyways.
A gamer knows his/her needs.

I agree. We can pander to include everyone in things like education if we want (no matter how absurd), but when it comes to high-end games it is just ridiculous. These things are by their very nature very intensive, and I'd rather not see them watered down.

[Brandito]

you don't think people should be allowed to play video games how they want? is there a video game playing bible i should be reading? i don't want to be playing for the wrong reasons and end up in purgatory playing centipede for all of eternity.

[TBird761]

you don't think people should be allowed to play video games how they want? is there a video game playing bible i should be reading? i don't want to be playing for the wrong reasons and end up in purgatory playing centipede for all of eternity.

Did you just read my first sentence and then stop? Your post is arguing against a point I explicity said I wasn't making.

[Brandito]

Did you just read my first sentence and then stop? Your post is arguing against a point I explicity said I wasn't making.

the whole heartedly disagreeing bit pretty much summed it up, generally that means you disagree, and with the whole of your heart. if that's not what you meant then different wording would be in order.

[TBird761]

Ok, I think we've met the raw end of territory. If you still want to bicker with me, PM me instead.

[madhatter256]

you more than likely can. though like ghost dog pointed out it's a lighting setting, that gives the advantage.

and even if they did force shadows there's other settings that give players an advantage such as disabling foliage the the like.

people have been making their game look crappy to get a few more frags at least since quake3. that's the first time i came across the idea.

Heh. I remember doing this and noticed more frags. Before, snipers would get me from buildings or others in general but with the lighting low in both BF2 and BF1942, I could see people much better in 'dark' places.

[Vear Heart]

damn no xp support

looks like there gonna have to do a work around again like they did for Halo 2