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  1. #31
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    temps? they look abnormally high but..................

    ask in the gigabyte forum. maybe someone there can verify higher numbers on that board. it could be just a bios isn't calculating the temps correctly. still running stock voltage?

    yes the 14 multi might be a good compromise.

    vdimm, wanted to make sure you were using 2.1v. i haven't seen, but haven't tried that hard, to get much out of overvolting ddr2.

    also the try using cas 5 and 1:1 in some multi combination. you may be able to run your memory 510-530fsb.

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    Last edited by uddarts; 02-08-2008 at 09:38 AM.

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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    well, I will try some different things. my temps under load doing futuremark '06 barely go over 50C but prime95 they go up about 25 degrees. I am not concerned if doing ordinary gaming the temp stays below 55C
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    i can be comfortable with 55c under load too.

    later if you decide to push things, you have two choices. ignore the numbers as being inaccurate or invest in a better cooler to be sure. i'd favor the latter.


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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    I second that.
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    Could someone explain the core temps and the cpu temps. When doing the Prime95 torture test the core temps never reach 45 C but the cpu eventually hit 60 C. What is the difference?
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    Y0our readings are mixed up.
    The higher temp is the temp inside one of the cores, the cpu temp (lower) is an approximation of what the center of the heatspreader temp is.


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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    well everyone of my applications that read temps say the the cpu is the high one and the core is the lower ones and the system temp is just above the cpu temp. also they agree with bios.

    Right now for instance, speedfan has the cpu at 25C and the core at 5C. That is with C&Q enabled.
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    You're telling what it says, I'm telling what it means. Your version of speedfan may not properly read the 50000BE or yuor board. By the way, 5C is a misread of some type. Go to the speedfan site, download the newest version, register and you will have access to pre configured setups. See if you can find one for your board.
    Have you tried coretemp.exe?
    Last edited by TheGlasMan; 02-10-2008 at 07:53 AM.


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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    Coretemp only gives two core temps, one is 6C and the other 1C. I will try and register for speedfan like you said and get back to you. thanks

    My current version of speedfan is 4.33
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    one is 6C and the other 1C.
    Are you using this version?
    Version 0.96.1 - 15th January, 2008

    - Add: Support for Phenom and ''Barcelona'' Opteron.
    - Add: Support all K8 processors.
    - Add: Support Intel Celeron M 500 series.
    If so check for a new bios for your board that supports the 5000BE. Those temps are incorrect.


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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    I registered but haven't received an email so I can finish, so I might have to work on that. I didn't see any version like 0.96.1 only 4.33 which is said to be the latest.

    My bios recognizes my processor. I ran Prime95 with the Gigabyte monitor running and the temps stayed at 55C. I don't think the room temp was that much cooler to make that kind of difference, but I figured that Gigabytes program should be able to measure it's own board. So I will run it some more to see if it reads temps lower than speedfan. I have read that brisbane processor temps can't be measured accurately so who knows. But it makes it hard to push your OC when you have to wait for the computer to cut off before you know you have gone too far.
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    coretemp 0.96.1, not speedfan.
    My bios recognizes my processor.
    Some times the first version has a few bugs, like the temp sensing.

    At any rate, I'm 99.9% sure 55C is the core temp of one of your cores. cpu T (case) is generally 12-13C lower. The T case cannot be higher than the core temp unless you install a heater for the HSF.

    It could have to do with the wiring of your board that causes coretemp to misinterpret the reading if the new version doesn't get it right.

    But it makes it hard to push your OC when you have to wait for the computer to cut off
    YOur OC will fail prime, be quirky in windows, etc. long before the cpu overheats
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    I have the same problem with Speedfan but the latest version of Coretemp seems to work fine. You may also want to try PC Wizard 2008 and see how that reads your temps.

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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    I have coretemp 96.1. It says one core is 7C the other is 2C. I will see about pc wizare 2008
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    Re: Athlon 64 x2 5000+ Black Edition

    OK, I downloaded pc wizard 2008 which is a nice little program if it is accurate. It has three temps for the proccessor, the one that says proccessor read 39C the whole time I was running Prime95, so I guess that one is questionable. The other two are for the cores, they read about 9C and 5C. I might add that here in western NY state, it is windy and 0. The room is cooler than usually, about 66 F rather than 69 or so.

    Anyway, doing the stresstest, the cores only got up to 42C and 37C. I certainly like that but at this point I have no idea. One thing I don't like about pc wizard is you have to hit refresh or it just reads the same temp.
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