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    CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    I'm amazed by alot of the ignorance of people when it comes to cpu bottleneck issues. I have seen alot of threads started by people who are afraid that if they buy an 8800gt, and pair it with let's say an Athlon X2 3200, they won't see any performance benefit. Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!! Pop that sucker in and game! I saw a thread over at [H]ard where a poster wouldn't even install his newly purchased 8800gt cause he was afraid his cpu would hold him back. Jeeezz man! How do people expect to purchase high priced technical items without having an inkling of how stuff works? Google is your friend people!

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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cesario View Post
    I'm amazed by alot of the ignorance of people when it comes to cpu bottleneck issues. I have seen alot of threads started by people who are afraid that if they buy an 8800gt, and pair it with let's say an Athlon X2 3200, they won't see any performance benefit. Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!! Pop that sucker in and game! I saw a thread over at [H]ard where a poster wouldn't even install his newly purchased 8800gt cause he was afraid his cpu would hold him back. Jeeezz man! How do people expect to purchase high priced technical items without having an inkling of how stuff works? Google is your friend people!
    Games these days rely more on GPU than on CPU it’s true; however there are some titles that are still CPU intensive. I agree though that all things being equal a faster video card will generally improve game performance. Will you get better performance with a new CPU AND a new GPU? Yes. Will increasing the amount of system RAM help as well? Yes.

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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    I think it is somewhat of a bottleneck with that CPU, maybe he doesn't have the guts to use the new card and wants to use another faster CPU with it to increase his computer geek cred.

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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    Yeah that is going to far not installing it.

    I got my 8800GT the week they came out.Performance is superb in DX 9 games even @ stock speeds.Only game is struggles in is DX 10 games like Crysis.
    And I know the CPU plays a roll in this,I notice diferences even in battlefield when im @ 2ghz or 2.7ghz,fps doesnt drop as low as it can @2 ghz
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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cesario View Post
    I'm amazed by alot of the ignorance of people when it comes to cpu bottleneck issues. I have seen alot of threads started by people who are afraid that if they buy an 8800gt, and pair it with let's say an Athlon X2 3200, they won't see any performance benefit. Jesus Christ!!!!!!!!! Pop that sucker in and game! I saw a thread over at [H]ard where a poster wouldn't even install his newly purchased 8800gt cause he was afraid his cpu would hold him back. Jeeezz man! How do people expect to purchase high priced technical items without having an inkling of how stuff works? Google is your friend people!
    I agree, this always comes up everytime someones wants to upgrade their AGP card, to a newer card with better performance. Drives me up the wall. Of course the card won't perform like it was in a new Quad-Core DDR3 based Rig, but it will still give someone a leg-up from the old card they were using. If I had listened to BAB (The Bottleneck Advisory Board), I would never have upgraded past a 9700 Pro on my old Rigs.
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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    I recall an article at anandtech or some place like that, about a year ago, where they were discussing the 8800-series cards and commented how much of their potential was lost with lower performance cpus. At that time, I was running my 8800GTS 640 on the biostar board in my sig with a venice 3500 oced to something like 2.6GHz. I got a huge boost with that card-mobo-cpu combo compared to the 6800GS AGP I had been running on another 939 mobo, but the potential of the 8800GTS 640 didn't really kick in until I set up my DS3. Then, wow, just wow.

    That said, I agree that the cards should be used. If you own it, use it.
    But I wouldn't get too upset about this. I'm concerned about my own systems; others can do what they want with theirs (unless they come here seeking help).

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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    Agreed, like I said previously some games are more dependent on CPU than others, and a NEW CPU will help improve over all system performance. Then again so will increasing the speed or size of RAM.
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    Re: CPU Bottleneck issue is taken to ridiculous extremes by people?

    Regardless of the platform the higher end card will still deliver the best graphics performance for a particular rig than would otherwise be achievable.

    When's the last time you heard about someone complaining about their cpu being bottlenecked by their video card.

    If anything games are becoming cpu limited as well as graphics limited with all the extra ai and details going on at any one time. So if anything its probably more correct in saying the "game" is cpu limited rather than the video card being cpu limited, thats what I think...

    Not sure how many here have tired to play UT3 on a single core cpu, UT3 is a game that is very cpu limited/bound.
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