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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    Hopefully it comes out in June so I can step-up from my 9800GTX's

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    Did Nvidia redo their naming thing again?

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    the memory bus width is the least of my worries. i don't know why anyone expected it to be less than 512 bit. i thought maybe they'd make it 1024 bit so they can clock the ram lower.

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    I'm a little surprised, honestly. The G80 started out on what, a 320bit bus? Eventually, nVidia trimmed it down to a more "normal" 256 to cut cost and complexity in the G92. A 512bit bus is going to be expensive to implement, so I'm beginning to suspect that fully-functional GT200-based cards aren't going to come in under $350 for a long time (if ever!).

    My guess is that ATI will take the other road, where R700 will be 256bit but use high-speed GDDR4 and GDDR5.

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    G80 (8800GTX, Ultra) has a 384-bit memory bus (the original 'G80-based 8800GTS had a cut-ddown 320-bit memory bus).


    I'd actually suggest that Ati's R600 (X2900XT/Pro, which had a 512-bit memory bus) has perhaps affected nVidias choice of the memory bus width (since the design choices were probably made a 'while' ago already).

    Perhaps the specs of R600 somewhat scared nVidia and nVidia was planning to release GT200 earlier, but due to the 'mediocre' performance of the R600 even with its 512-bit memory bus, nVidia decided to do a 'reroll' of G80 with the G92 instead (and save probably a huge load in production costs since the 512-bit bus is going to eat up quite a bit of transistors and increase production costs for the PCBs).

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    Jeezuz it is huge....looks even longer than my 9800gtx's

    Now I gotta come up with $400 for a step up on 2 cards....if they really are released in June.

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    BAH, i thought they were working towards keeping the cards under a certain power envelope.

    why must they continue to make them bigger and bigger? i mean it's been a while since they had a completely new line of cards so you'd think they'd have had size and power issues under control by now.

    i was so hoping my 8800gt and gts would be the last oversized graphics card i'd need to buy.

    i do like dual slot coolers for removing excess heat riht out of the case, but do we really need cards this long?
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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    If the GT200 is faster than the GX2 we might have a card to finally compete with the Ultra. In all seriousness, I hope this card benches around 60 or more FPS in Crysis on High or very High. Untill that happens I will keep my 8800GT.

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    Quote Originally Posted by Brandito View Post
    BAH, i thought they were working towards keeping the cards under a certain power envelope.

    why must they continue to make them bigger and bigger? i mean it's been a while since they had a completely new line of cards so you'd think they'd have had size and power issues under control by now.

    i was so hoping my 8800gt and gts would be the last oversized graphics card i'd need to buy.

    i do like dual slot coolers for removing excess heat riht out of the case, but do we really need cards this long?
    Nvidia never said they cared about how much power their cards used.

    That's intel's job with larrabee.

    Nvidia doesn't have any competition, so why should they spend more money on r&d when they can save it for their profit? Same goes for ati. Have they made any serious innovations that you can think of? I can't think of many at all. Remember, nvidia overcame 3dfx by copying them and due to 3dfx's business errors, no other reason.

    I seriously hope tech places will come to their senses and give this mediocre reviews (I'm talking no more than 50%) across the board (no pun intended) if all it is (n) times faster than the 8800 ultra.

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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    If it can match the GX2 it will be a killer card considering its a single gpu solution and won't have the multigpu driver limitations that sli and crossfire have.
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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    Quote Originally Posted by vote ron paul View Post
    Nvidia doesn't have any competition, so why should they spend more money on r&d when they can save it for their profit?
    They always have to be ready with something in R&D, you might say AMD got in a pinch probably from not putting enough resources to R&D, expecting too little from the competition.

    Nvidia is pretty much doing what they have done in the past for the most part with the exception of really screwing up the naming conventions.

    I think we all begin to expect too much, we know what "we" want them to deliver but in the real world things are not always quite so easy to accomplish and we just get let down for having high hopes.
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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    i'm pretty sure i remember them saying they'd be trying to create cards with better power requirements, then again i wouldn't be able to find where i read that so who knows.
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    Re: Some GT200 info...

    The new generation cards with low & medium power requirements are already available for some time (G94 & G92). Anybody that is really interested in that, can stay with them; unless of course you also seek the lack of more power hungry cards so that everyone is forced to use a low-medium power one, or the idea of having the high-end card with an average power consumption & cost.

    Personally I never cared about PC components power consumption simply because they have nothing to do with enviromnental health since the power they use is considerably lower than other commonly used power sources.

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