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  1. #16
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    Quote Originally Posted by old82 View Post
    i have to wonder if they could have effected it. it seems lighter in color now.
    thats just the effects of the buzz you have...lol

  2. #17
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    Quote Originally Posted by old82 View Post
    what happened is i went to the leasing office and told them about the tub. they just told me to make sure there was no soap scum on it. i did that. then they called me after a while to schedule it. they wanted me to call them back so they could schedule it but i kept putting it of and forgetting to. so, they decided to send the guy anyway. then they tried to blame it on me by saying that they would have warned me about the fumes if i had called them. i'm calling •••••••• on that one.

    second off, they didn't even bother to vent it properly until i complained AGAIN after having to spend a night on the art building floor. they told me the fumes should have been gone after 3-4 hours and that no one else complained when they resurfaced their tubs. they also told me the fumes weren't harmful.


    is this behavior in violation of any laws? i'd be very happy to nail them for this.


    oh, do any of you know if these fumes could have effected the structual integrity of a bicycle helmet? they say never to spay any cleaners on these helmets, and given the density of the fumes i have to wonder if they could have effected it. it seems lighter in color now.
    I'd have to see the terms of your original leasing agreement to understand what laws, if any, they violated.

    But what you have described above sure seems like they are liable for any damages you occur.

  3. #18
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    how should one handle a situation like this?


    and that stupid thing is still emitting fumes. soon as i turn that fan off that come right back.
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  4. #19
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    Got any window box type fans? If ya do maybe reverse the air flow so they suck air out FROM the apartment and blow it out.

  5. #20
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    that's the thing. that tornado fan blows it straight out my bedroom window. it's not that bad with it on but i still don't like being in the bedroom or bathroom due to it. when i turn it off the fumes come right back. the only thing that could explain that is that it's still emitting.


    what sort of agency do you report renters issues to?
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  6. #21
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes


  7. #22
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    man! now they're having this stupid school party across the street (i should be in bed soon)! i tried closing my living room windows and that dulled the noise a good bit but i can't turn on the a/c because it emits this stupid stinky smell. so, it's either hot or noisy tonight....
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  8. #23
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    look at what this jackass sent me. my paintings are done with linseed oil based paint by the way. and the newest ones have been dry for over a month. conived •••••.... how does he think this assertion will help him?

    we'll start with my reply to him (i deleted personal info.)

    -----------------------------------------------------


    i mean in writing via e-mail as i noted earlier. i count in writing as
    via e-mail. please have my air filters replaced by the end of friday.
    whenever i turn on the a/c it emits nasty fumes that i can taste in the
    air if i stand in front of the a/c unit.

    please also realize that your deceitful behavior and assertions
    regarding my paintings is easily remedied as i have at least two
    professors familiar with my painting and as i can actually take them to
    the court room to have the judge smell them. the paintings are all made
    of series one linseed oil based paint. i have had some of them for
    almost a year, and as i noted earlier all of them have been dry for
    well over a month. even when oil paintings are wet the smell they emit
    is not toxic and not that strong. linseed based oil paint is not the
    same paint in any way shape or form as regular oil based house paint.
    your lies hold no water here.

    thank you for clarifying your level of honesty on this issue. i will
    react accordingly.

    ---------------------------------------------and now what he sent me---------------






































    VIA US MAIL TO:







    We will comply with your request to communicate only in writing. However, this means we may not communicate via email and will be inconvenient for you.



    According to the lease, Section 33, Miscellaneous, "...Written notice to or from our managers constitutes notice to or from us. Any person giving a notice under this lease contract should retain a copy of the memo, letter, or fax that was given, as well as any fax transmittal verification. Fax signatures are binding. All notices must be signed. Notices may not be given via email".



    Therefore, please comply too with this section of the lease going forward and communicate only in writing in accordance with this paragraph. You may still call in emergency requests to 972.454.5000 and afterward hand deliver a copy of your written service request if needed.



    As stated in my previous email to you, we will allow the carpet fan to stay in your apartment as long as there are not any other maintenance emergencies that require the use of the fan through Friday. We'll allow the use of the fan through the weekend under these same terms. Once the fan is removed, however it will be removed permanently.



    We strongly disagree with your assessment of the fumes in your apartment and believe the high number of paintings you have stored is contributing to your problem. We strongly recommend that you remove all personal property that contains hazardous materials and paintings from your apartment. Many of these items are stacked against walls and lying on the floor. Until further notice, we are allowing use of the carpet fan as a courtesy to you. In addition, please understand that we will not be responsible for any electricity used by the carpet fan as this is an extraneous service you are requesting.



    We recommend turning on the exhaust fan in your bathroom as well if you want further ventilation.







    -----Original Message-----
    From:
    Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 5:01 PM
    To:
    Subject: fan, fumes, legal violation



    from hence forth i will only communicate with you (anyone that's

    employed by waterview park or university house) via e-mail.



    i wish to have all communication in writing.





    further more, please do not remove the tornado fan from my apartment

    until i have told you that the tub is no longer emitting fumes. it

    still was emitting fumes when i left this morning as i turned it off

    and left the bathroom door closed for 10 minutes. when i came back the

    fumes were still strong. so, the tub has not stopped emitting fumes and

    i'd rather that i be able to use my apartment without becoming light

    headed.



    please realize that you may be in violation of the law if you remove

    that fan before the tub stops emitting fumes.
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  9. #24
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    I have, and have used both series one and series two linseed oil paint. They have no fumes! Hell, they have less odor than some of the acrylic paints I've used them over.

    These guys are just grasping at straws.

  10. #25
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    damn thing is STILL emitting noxious fumes. i can only stay in this room about 10 minutes or so.

    i left the bathroom door closed today with the fart vent on for about five hours (i also closed the bedroom window as i was leaving and i thought it might rain). when i came back the bedroom was stinking and the bathroom was really stinking.


    isn't there an authority i can hand this too?

    i'm gonna see if my coach and professors will come over and witness it.
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  11. #26
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    6 days! and it's still emitting fumes! 6 ••••••• days!
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  12. #27
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    do these tornado fans use much electricity? the one that's in there is about 18-24 inches tall.
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  13. #28
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    Not sure about the Tornados but your basic box fan uses about 75-100 watts.
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  14. #29
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    i keep trying to get people to come by and smell it as witnesses. i'm not having much luck.

    do any of you live near richardson tx?
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

  15. #30
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    Re: tub resurfacing fumes

    it still stinks...not as bad... but still?!
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemöller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

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