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    Re: President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    The topic is leadership... not emotions.
    Scooter, what do you do when you assemble the material to blanket this place with posts?

    Simply read the titles and not the content?

    You brought up the issue of emotions as the way to equate leadership here...
    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Obama + leadership = fail. Imagine that.. they guy with no executive experience at all can no more run a country than he can give a decent speech w/o reating it from his master.. the teleprompter.

    Obama fails the test of leadership

    White House press secretary Robert Gibbs tweeted to the world recently that President Barack Obama had on his night table “The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt,” Edmund Morris’s rip-roaring, Pulitzer Prize-winning account of the formative years of America’s most colorful president.

    Presumably, Gibbs was implying that the great man now occupying the White House was taking pointers from the great man who preceded him.

    Politicians just love to see themselves as leaders like Teddy Roosevelt or Winston Churchill — giants who trampled over obstacles with unyielding doggedness and even a kind of childlike insouciance.

    As Obama underachieves his way through the Gulf of Mexico oil spill crisis, Gibbs’s effort to link the president to Roosevelt makes the opposite point intended: Great leaders are a very rare thing, and the man in the White House today ain’t one of them — at least not yet.

    Obama’s detached performance with respect to this massive and growing crisis — the ripple effects of which could still be with us on Election Day 2012 — is generally portrayed as a PR meltdown and a simple failure to step up by an understandably beleaguered Obama.

    “It’s impossible not to feel sorry for President Obama,” writes Maureen Dowd in The New York Times, “pummeled by the cascading disasters, at home and abroad.”

    Well, it’s possible.

    Obama’s failure to convey any hint of genuine emotion, to rouse the American people to turn their hearts toward the Gulf and to assure them that their world — still built on the plentiful supply of fossil fuels — is not falling apart, is a profound failure of leadership.

    Instead of offering reassurance, the president is using the crisis to promote his political agenda, hankering for alternative energy and climate change legislation in Congress — though there won’t be any significant replacement of carbon-based power sources for years to come.

    Instead of an uplifting message of unity rallying the country to confront the horror and assuring all Americans that we will deal successfully, one way or another, with its disastrous effects, the nation is treated to petty lecturing of BP — even a refusal to let BP evildoers sully the stage the administration uses to discuss the latest failures.

    The very company the administration needs to work with to stop the bleeding is vilified and threatened with criminal prosecution.

    This separates Obama from the “bad guys.” But it also likely harms the stoppage effort by creating a climate of suspicion and forcing BP to focus on PR and legal CYA operations while trying to plug the well.

    The spill is becoming one of the great catastrophes the country has faced. Think of how other presidents have risen to the occasion under similar circumstances.

    Who can forget that moment when, touring the ruins of the World Trade Center, former President George W. Bush — with a spontaneity hard to imagine from Obama — grabbed a bullhorn and declared to the workers at ground zero that revenge was coming:

    “I can hear you! I can hear you! The rest of the world hears you! And the people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon! The nation — the nation sends its love and compassion — to everybody who is here.”

    Or remember President Bill Clinton’s emotional meeting in April 1995, a few days after the Oklahoma City tragedy, with the families of those killed in the truck-bomb attack on the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building and his moving speech at the memorial service afterward.

    That moment helped the country work through its grief and began Clinton’s political rebirth after the massive GOP sweep of November 1994.

    And what do we get from Obama?

    A bloodless news conference at which even his description of his daughter beseeching him as to whether the crisis was solved was given with all the emotion of, say, Michael Dukakis.
    I like what Obama said. It's something I can put my hands around to watch the results.

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    Re: President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    The topic is leadership... not emotions.

    There's a house fire caused by a PG&E crew replacing a gas meter..
    The fire trucks and their crews roll up..
    The fire chief steps out of one of the trucks and reads a prepared speech about how tragic this house fire is and how sad it makes him personally to the gathered news crews..
    The firemen stand around and watch as the home eventually burns to the ground..
    The chief then shoots off an email of the speech he just gave to the rest of the press and his supporters along with the details of how he is going to make sure PG&E pays for the damages along with the news he will turn off everyone's gas until safer meter operating standards are put in place.

    By the "logic" being employed here, that's a fine example of leadership.



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    Re: President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxius View Post
    tool shed bush showed great leadership during his presidency

    Whatever Bush was or wasn't doesn't take away from the fact that Obama is truly a terrible leader as he has proven this far.
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    Re: President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Scooter, what do you do when you assemble the material to blanket this place with posts?

    Simply read the titles and not the content?

    You brought up the issue of emotions as the way to equate leadership here...
    I like what Obama said. It's something I can put my hands around to watch the results.
    Did you read the story? Or just take the time to boldface portions of it that you thought supported your opposition to my opinion while disregarding the rest?

    What did Clinton do a few days after Oklahoma City? He met with the families of those killed and gave a speech at the memorial service afterward.

    What did GWB do after 9/11? Toured the ruins of the World Trade Center, grabbed a bullhorn and declared to the workers at ground zero that revenge was coming.

    What did your teleprompter reading d*ck with ears do? Gave a bloodless news conference at which even his description of his daughter beseeching him as to whether the crisis was solved was given with all the emotion of, say, Michael Dukakis. Homeboy did not even leave DC.

    It took this Post Turtle nearly 2 full weeks to even visit for a photo op on a beach that was prepped by about 200 folks just for his "I care" message photos to be taken. Folks who left the scene nearly at the same time he did. He was busy doing other things far more important apparently



    All hail your great leader.

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    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Did you read the story? Or just take the time to boldface portions of it that you thought supported your opposition to my opinion while disregarding the rest?

    What did Clinton do a few days after Oklahoma City? He met with the families of those killed and gave a speech at the memorial service afterward.

    What did GWB do after 9/11? Toured the ruins of the World Trade Center, grabbed a bullhorn and declared to the workers at ground zero that revenge was coming.

    What did your teleprompter reading d*ck with ears do? Gave a bloodless news conference at which even his description of his daughter beseeching him as to whether the crisis was solved was given with all the emotion of, say, Michael Dukakis. Homeboy did not even leave DC.

    It took this Post Turtle nearly 2 full weeks to even visit for a photo op on a beach that was prepped by about 200 folks just for his "I care" message photos to be taken. Folks who left the scene nearly at the same time he did. He was busy doing other things far more important apparently



    All hail your great leader.

    YES THE PRESIDENT HAS MORE IMPORTANT THING TO DO THAN SIT THERE AND BE A MOUTH PIECE FOR BP ... MY GOD AGAIN IT IS BP's MESS THERE IS NOT A THING OBAMA CAN DO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. BP HAS TO FIX ITS LEAKING WELL... OH BTW NOW YOU WANT OBAMA AND THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CHARGE AND CLEAN UP THIS MESS ... OF A PRIVATE COMPANY WHERE DID YOUR VALUES GO... YOU KNOW THE ONES DURING ALL THE BAILOUTS ...
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    Re: President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by AMD Fanatic View Post
    Whatever Bush was or wasn't doesn't take away from the fact that Obama is truly a terrible leader as he has proven this far.
    ok bp is cleaning up an oil spill in the gulf ... VS NORTH KOREA AND SOUTH KOREA WANTING TO START A NEW KOREAN WAR WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT... do you attend his daily security briefings you have zero idea of the stuff that hits his desk. he is not just sitting there with his thumb up his butt. he has bigger fish to fry than a private companys problems
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    Re: President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Maxius View Post
    YES THE PRESIDENT HAS MORE IMPORTANT THING TO DO THAN SIT THERE AND BE A MOUTH PIECE FOR BP ... MY GOD AGAIN IT IS BP's MESS THERE IS NOT A THING OBAMA CAN DO TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. BP HAS TO FIX ITS LEAKING WELL... OH BTW NOW YOU WANT OBAMA AND THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE CHARGE AND CLEAN UP THIS MESS ... OF A PRIVATE COMPANY WHERE DID YOUR VALUES GO... YOU KNOW THE ONES DURING ALL THE BAILOUTS ...
    Yep - it's time for the government to get more involved and "Take charge". Yes, BP has the technology and resources - but, the overview of the entire situation belongs to the US government.

    THEN, READ MY LIPS HERE - HAND BP PETROLEUM THE BILL. Getting government involvement doesn't suggest a TAXPAYER BAILOUT.

    Just like Katrina - government should take charge of the situation. Capping the well is only 1/2 the problem - then comes the cleanup.

    The government needs to be smack dab in the middle of that. This drama won't be over for 5, 10 maybe 20 years.

    And give BP the bill - the whole bill.

    Nobody suggested a bailout - what we have now is the fox running the henhouse and that ain't good.

    Where's that National Energy plan the lefties where whining about during the Bush years? Cap & Trade isn't a National Energy plan it's an excuse for another tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maxius View Post
    ok bp is cleaning up an oil spill in the gulf ... VS NORTH KOREA AND SOUTH KOREA WANTING TO START A NEW KOREAN WAR WHAT IS MORE IMPORTANT... do you attend his daily security briefings you have zero idea of the stuff that hits his desk. he is not just sitting there with his thumb up his butt. he has bigger fish to fry than a private companys problems
    He's done an outstanding job in the middle east. Clinton did a smoking job with the "Buy them off" plan for North Korea - remember that one? Diplomacy didn't work so hot. Watch for Iran next - just give it time......

    He is sitting there with his thumb up hisass on the Gulf disaster - he can simply put someone in charge, appoint a staff and have them brief him in minutes a day of his busy time.

    Give BP the bill for that too.
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    So you're suggesting that government should be allowed to assert a best course of action, follow through with it, and coerce a private entity to pay the bill without their consent or involvement?

    Just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    Did you read the story? Or just take the time to boldface portions of it that you thought supported your opposition to my opinion while disregarding the rest?
    gee whiz, again I did. My question to you has become more valid. Did you? I boldfaced portions of it? I went through it highlighting the main premise that you dance around. The president uplifting us in times of grave crisis via emotional displays. Your quest for that river in Egypt is no longer funny. It is sad.

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    What did Clinton do a few days after Oklahoma City? He met with the families of those killed and gave a speech at the memorial service afterward.

    What did GWB do after 9/11? Toured the ruins of the World Trade Center, grabbed a bullhorn and declared to the workers at ground zero that revenge was coming.
    Scoot, are you now comparing these three as if they are the same? BP came in and bombed us? geez, this crying wolf of yours is getting pretty bad. Are you trying to get me to share your rage? Because this type of insensitive partisan play is starting to do that. Are the lost lives of Americans now fodder in your well established need to bash Obama?

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    What did your teleprompter reading d*ck with ears do? Gave a bloodless news conference at which even his description of his daughter beseeching him as to whether the crisis was solved was given with all the emotion of, say, Michael Dukakis. Homeboy did not even leave DC.

    It took this Post Turtle nearly 2 full weeks to even visit for a photo op on a beach that was prepped by about 200 folks just for his "I care" message photos to be taken. Folks who left the scene nearly at the same time he did. He was busy doing other things far more important apparently



    All hail your great leader.

    hmm all the emotion of Dukakis? Emotion? Funny you should use that word after all that complaining.

    And a photoop deals with the issue of deep water oil drilling? That's all that's been done? Talk about pickin and choosin.

    Tell you what, when BP bombs TX, LA, or FL and shattered human remains are scattered across an accessible site, if Obama doesn't give an uplifiting speech full of emotion, I'll listen to you. Until then, you are the little boy who cried wolf and these types of comparisons of yours sicken me.

    Here's a view from those enraged, and I see they had no need to bring up visions of ground zero nor Oklahoma...
    Last edited by otoc; 06-07-2010 at 08:24 AM. Reason: added the grannies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveW View Post
    THEN, READ MY LIPS HERE - HAND BP PETROLEUM THE BILL. Getting government involvement doesn't suggest a TAXPAYER BAILOUT.
    must have missed this...
    Quote Originally Posted by otoc View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    We have also ordered BP to pay economic injury claims, and this week, the federal government sent BP a preliminary bill for $69 million to pay back American taxpayers for some of the costs of the response so far. In addition, after an emergency safety review, we are putting in place aggressive new operating standards for offshore drilling. And I have appointed a bipartisan commission to look into the causes of this spill. If laws are inadequate, they will be changed. If oversight was lacking, it will be strengthened. And if laws were broken, those responsible will be brought to justice.
    ..not that I fault you with all the twisting side steps being posted around here...

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    Re: President Obama

    Enough with this phony scandal crap. Its time to ask some tough questions about what was really going on back in 1993

    http://gawker.com/5556281/was-obama-...mp-there-it-is

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    ^^ tough call

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackDragon24 View Post
    Enough with this phony scandal crap. Its time to ask some tough questions about what was really going on back in 1993

    http://gawker.com/5556281/was-obama-...mp-there-it-is

    god it's real.....








    Thursday, June 3, 2010

    OBAMA MADE CAMEO IN 1993 RAP VIDEO?!?


    AT 1MIN 1SEC - 1MIN 3 SEC






    http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3341/obomber.jpg



    FOCUSED GIF OF THE THREE SECOND OBAMA VIDEO-
    http://www.gifsoup.com/view/652261/obama-o.gif

    What do you think?

    Pay close attention to his ears poking out, the shape of his nose, and skin color.

    Obama would have been 32 years old at the time.. (Obama's birthday 8/4/1961)

    None of the pics and/or video were altered. This is an observation. This is not meant to be derogatory or inflammatory.
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    Utah Slim said... Jesus ••••••••••• Christ! Its OBAMA! I'm in such a state of shock right now... I think I will call off work and go home and beat my asain wife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phopojijo View Post
    So you're suggesting that government should be allowed to assert a best course of action, follow through with it, and coerce a private entity to pay the bill without their consent or involvement?

    Just curious.
    After they trashed the ocean and beaches of 3 or more states, affecting untold thousands of families and wildlife.

    YES - NOT JUST YES, HELL YES.

    Obama has already presented them with billing.
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