President Obama

[AMDScooter]

2 Years ago..

If you voted for Obama to prove you aren’t a RACIST, you need to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you’re not an IDIOT

Still holds today.

[otoc]

Ahh I see. I didn't read it in the context of the "MSM conspiracy angle."

So what did the MSM conspire to do this time? To not show the whole video?

I was watching a clip of the Breitbart.com boys on Hannity talking about this, and it was quite hilarious. What cracks me up mostly is that they constantly bag on the liberal media for not discovering this stuff because of the "relative ease" in which it was available. Well my question for the Breitbart boys is this: If it was SOOOO easy to find this stuff, then how come the conservative media outlets didn't pick up on it 4 friggin years ago? I'm pretty sure that NRO, Limbaugh, Savage, Fox News, and lots of other conservative media outlets existed way back when...are they conspiring to elect Barrack Obama as well?

Pardon me while I clutch my pearls and lean on something to prevent from fainting

I'm simply laughing at all this nonsense in an election cycle where the GOP offers crap and counts on sheeple getting their talking points fed to them without vetting. I guess its all about the economy improving.

Breitbart and Heritage got pawned. There's a conspiracy alright...
Did Professor Derrick Bell Visit the White House?

The conservative Heritage Foundation shows some pluck by searching for the late law school professor Derrick A. Bell in the White House visitor’s logs, and finds that “Visitor logs show that Derrick A. Bell visited the White House twice since President Obama took office. The logs show two visits by an individual of that name on January 29 and 31, 2010.”
Why would this matter? Bell has recently splashed into the conservative media world after Breitbart.com and Fox News showed some video of then-Harvard Law School student Barack Obama speaking at a rally on campus in 1990 in support of Bell’s efforts to improve the diversity of the school’s faculty. The video had been previously shown on Frontline in 2008, including a scene of Obama hugging the professor,* which some falsely claim was not in the original PBS documentary. Bell without question held some controversial views (read this 1993 New Republic piece for more on that) and some conservatives seek to portray this as yet another close Obama associate with radical views – with a lapdog media covering it up.
There are two problems with the Heritage post. One: it excludes some details from the visitors’ logs. There are 28 columns on the publicly released records, the Heritage blog lists seven. The data they omit includes a description of what the visit was for: in this case, for both visits: TOURS. A White House tour – not MEETING or APPOINTMENT. Another data point: TOTAL PEOPLE. This is a reference to how many people were present for the tour, meeting or appointment – in this case 304 people and 282 people.
Check out the visitors’ logs HERE.
But Bell surely could have taken a tour or two and then met with President Obama, right? Sure, it’s possible – and I asked the White House about it. The answer from a White House official: this was not the same Derrick A. Bell. He had a different birthday than the late law professor, whose birthday was November 6, 1930. That would seem to undermine the significance of this visit.

[AMDScooter]

^^^ From the front pages of LGF to TLR courtesy of our resident centrist spouting his usual trope about others being sheeple and guesses the economy is "improving". Keep guessing.

[Dutchcedar]

I'm simply laughing at all this nonsense in an election cycle where the GOP offers crap and counts on sheeple getting their talking points fed to them without vetting. I guess its all about the economy improving.

Breitbart and Heritage got pawned. There's a conspiracy alright...
Did Professor Derrick Bell Visit the White House?

From the original post at Heritage:

Heritage could not independently confirm that the Derrick A. Bell listed is the same individual who spoke at the rally. The White House did not return a request for comment.

So we learn that certain people don't get answers from The Won.

Shock.

Pawned? Only if you're a centrist would ya see it that way.

[Keven]

HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius appearantly knows nothing about ObamaCare.

Props to my man Senator Ron Johnson from Wisconsin



Reveleant transcript:

SEBELIUS: The original estimate, yes. I think that’s —

JOHNSON: Right. So, the original estimate for deficit reduction —

SEBELIUS: I’m assuming —

JOHNSON: The original estimate for deficit reduction in the first ten years was $143 billion, correct?

SEBELIUS: Yes —

JOHNSON: So now we, we’ve reduced that $143 billion by $86 billion — by not getting revenue from the CLASS Act — and now $111 billion because we’ve increased the mandatory costs of the exchanges, correct?

SEBELIUS: I’m assuming the numbers are correct. I’m sorry I don’t have them.

JOHNSON: So, when you add those together, that’s $197 billion added to the first ten-year cost estimate of Obamacare, so now we are instead of saving $143 billion, we are adding $54 billion to our deficit, correct?

SEBELIUS: Sir I —

JOHNSON: We’ll submit that to the record. But, that’s basically true. So instead of saving $143 billion, by this administration’s own figures and budget, we’re now adding $54 billion to our deficit in the first ten years. To me, that would be the first broken promise. It is true that the president said that by enacting this health-care law, every family would save $2,500 per year, in their family insurance plan — correct?

SEBELIUS: He said that once the exchanges are up and running, and you have an affordable marketplace, the insurance estimates were that the rates would go down by about $2,500, yes — that has not occurred yet.

JOHNSON: The Kaiser Family Foundation has already released a study saying that average costs of family health-care plans is up $2,200, correct?

SEBELIUS: Again, there is no new marketplace yet for insurance policies.

JOHNSON: But the costs are already up. We’re already different by $4,700; it’s going to be hard to get us down to $2,500 cost savings. I would consider that broken promise number two.

It’s also true, that President Obama very famously said, ‘If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health-care plan, you will be able to keep your health-care plan. Period. No one will take it away, no matter what.’ Now, you’ve granted quite a few waivers — about 1,200 to 1,700 waivers — on about 4 million Americans, correct?

SEBELIUS: I’ve no idea what waivers you’re talking about or —

JOHNSON: Well, those are waivers —

SEBELIUS: On doctors and health plans, is that . . . I —

JOHNSON: Just waivers from having to implement portions of the health-care law that probably would have allowed those — or forced those workers — off their employer-sponsored care.

SEBELIUS: Again, I’d be happy to answer these questions, but I have no idea what waivers you’re talking about —

JOHNSON: The waivers that HHS has granted to employers not —

SEBELIUS: Which do what?

JOHNSON: Not having implemented sections of the health-care law.

SEBELIUS: There have been waivers granted to employers, yes.

JOHNSON: And had those waivers not been granted, chances are, those employees probably would have lost their employer-sponsored care, correct?

SEBELIUS: I have no idea. I mean, I’m happy to answer those one at a time and look at the waivers and see what —

JOHNSON: Unfortunately, I’m pretty short on time.

[otoc]

^^^ From the front pages of LGF to TLR courtesy of our resident centrist spouting his usual trope about others being sheeple and guesses the economy is "improving". Keep guessing.

My once a month check to see if your game of sidestepping rhetoric remains. Yup. You take an abc link and make it something else. Funny that. That it wasn't off and funnier that you tried to make it a point about the source of material to counter a point considering your track record. All it took for me was a simPle google search on this video scoop that was nothing but extremely old news that breitbarts boys needed to edit to make news. See you next month scoot.

[SteveW]

^ Once a month check? Translation: Obsession.

[otoc]

From the original post at Heritage:So we learn that certain people don't get answers from The Won.

Shock.

Pawned? Only if you're a centrist would ya see it that way.

Really Dutch. Considering I used your quote to find their post to educate myself that in spite of them not getting verification they still titled the entry as he did visit the white house twice. Great journalism. Why'd they do that if not for the results showing up by them sheeples in the comments. If vetting my information like this makes me a centrist, well guilty as charged, whatever relevance that has with a discussion about Obama. Let's try again in a while when you tire of your •••• schtick.

[Dutchcedar]

^^^ Blah, blah, blah. If ya dislike the people here so much, why don't you get the f**k out of here instead of doin' your monthly check.

For example:

If vetting my information like this makes me a centrist, well guilty as charged, whatever relevance that has with a discussion about Obama.

Nobody said vetting information like this made you a centrist.

Gads, get over yerself.

Take up kite flying or somethin'.

[AMDScooter]

^^^ Blah, blah, blah. If ya dislike the people here so much, why don't you get the f**k out of here instead of doin' your monthly check.

For example:Nobody said vetting information like this made you a centrist.

Gads, get over yerself.

Take up kite flying or somethin'.

The forums longest running joke checks in once a month to check the guy who's supposed to be on his ignore list.

[bk94si]

I thought Obama was going to fix our foreign relation problems? Now they are burning HIM in effigy.
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ke-of-massacre

[Mountain Mania]

I thought Obama was going to fix our foreign relation problems? Now they are burning HIM in effigy.
http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ke-of-massacre

Obama's war in Afghanistan has been a massive failure. No hearts + minds are being changed, lol.

Troops there are almost sitting ducks with the current tension. I have a nephew there and he spent 2 tours in Iraq prior. He finally wants out.

[kbohip]

^^^^Don't worry, if Romney becomes pres., we'll invade Iran. Now THAT'S the war Americans can fight and not have egg all over our faces afterwards. That's the one alright, nothing can go wrong!

[Mountain Mania]

^^ Could happen too.

Although I believe Israel will target Iran nuclear facilities soon. Definitely before next January. Once Israel gets involved it wouldn't surprise me to see America get involved again.

A nation constantly at war.

[Keven]

^^^^Don't worry, if Romney becomes pres., we'll invade Iran. Now THAT'S the war Americans can fight and not have egg all over our faces afterwards. That's the one alright, nothing can go wrong!

Would you rather Iran set off a nuclear bomb in Tel Aviv?