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  1. #16
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    ext4 is the lastest version of the ext file system. It has finally been released as stable in Kernel 2.6.28. It will allow us to have partitions up to 16EB (exabyte)! That's large enough to record all internet traffic in the world for a period of 2 months!

    It supports individual files up to 16TB in size.

    On top of the new size capabilites, there are some speed improvements too. It also prevents file fragmentation better then ext3 does.

    But you probably wont see very many distros using this file system until they adopt kernel 2.6.30. This version has a bug fix that is plaguing the 2.6.28 version of the kernel. Ubuntu has chosen to patch their 2.6.28 kernel with the fix for the 2.6.30 kernel. This bug fix will help prevent file corruption in case of a system crash or unexpected power failure.

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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Have to say I love it.

    As soon as I get a new printer (Lexmark is a plague on Ubuntu - I hear HP is good) I'll be converting this machine entirely to Ubuntu.

    I stuck with ext3 - didn't really see the need to go ext4.

    Round of applause for the Ubuntu developers.

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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Urbeg, if I go by your sig, you are using a pre r600 ATI GPU. How did you solve the driver issue?
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Quote Originally Posted by urbeg View Post
    I stuck with ext3 - didn't really see the need to go ext4.
    sure, there is no need to use ext4, but i find it SO much faster that i've been spoiled now that i've been using it for about 6 weeks. i can't go back. let me put it this way, fsck use to take about 90 seconds under ext3, and now with ext4, it takes 8 seconds. plus, the whole system feels so much more smooth and responsive. once you experience this, you can't go back.

    i still have my 32bit, ext3 partition of ibex, and i go back to it just to remind myself how much better ext4 and 64bit really is. it doesn't take me long to reboot back into jaunty.

    i was always hesitant about going to 64bit, but as of now, there is no longer any excuses not to use it. there is a 64bit flash plugin, and java. 99.9% of 32bit apps are available to the 64bit crowd. the only difference i've noticed is the increased speed and stability.
    Last edited by wolfen69; 04-27-2009 at 10:01 PM.
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    I've got it installed on only 3 machines (including the one in my sig). I find it stable, and I like the new GDM. I think it boots SLIGHTLY quicker but not much for me. I'm not really seeing all the speed everyone is talking about, but it's better than Intrepid. Could just be me... I don't know... I'm still using EXT3 because all through the testing I kept hearing all the stories about 0 byte files and data loss with EXT4. I can't afford to play with my data. It's all backed up but I don't want to run headon into a recovery day.

    I do like it but it's a mixed bag of beans for me. I have MANY machines with NOW unsupported ATI video cards, and laptops with Intel GMA video that's just as bad if not worse. Those lappys are still running 8.04 - They sucked wind under Intrepid as well.

    My fingers are crossed for 8.10 (better opensource ati support, and better support of any kind for Intel).

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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    For Intel GMA, try enabling UXA acceleration in xorg.conf. It improved my performance drastically, but caused issues with the screen going into standby.
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_raider View Post
    For Intel GMA, try enabling UXA acceleration in xorg.conf. It improved my performance drastically, but caused issues with the screen going into standby.
    I know there are work arounds. In fact one of the threads on the Ubuntu Forums about this was started be me and lead to the HOWTO: Jaunty Intel Graphics Performance Guide

    It's just that Hardy runs flawless on this machine and I don't see a need to get the newest version if I have to RIG it to work well. It ain't broke, so I'm not going to fix it.

    When 8.10 comes out, and see how that one is doing with my Intel / ATI based graphics systems. All the nVidia systems get the update because there are NO issues with them.
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    I am upgrading to it right now.


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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    I did the upgrade. Everything is working fine, just as it was before. I can't really tell what has changed


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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Palandri - did you go with ext3 or 4?

    I installed it with ext4 on my AX78 A7DA-S (see sig) but it was a pia.
    Had to use advanced installation method and then repartition the hd.
    I used 8GB for the swap file and left the rest for the file system (/) on a Maxtor 160GB SATA hd.
    Haven't had time to do more than the basic installation since I'm working this week.
    I'll play some more this weekend.

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    Last edited by Electric Bill; 04-29-2009 at 07:54 AM.
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    ext3


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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Quote Originally Posted by Electric Bill View Post
    I used 8GB for the swap file
    8gb swap seems a bit of overkill. are you still going with the antiquated notion that you must double the ram?

    how much memory do you have?

    with computers coming with tons of memory these days, swap is just basically unnecessary. if you check your system monitor, you'll probably never see any swap usage. i use 1gb swap and consider that to be almost too much. i have never seen more than 500kb of swap used.
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfen69 View Post
    8gb swap seems a bit of overkill. are you still going with the antiquated notion that you must double the ram?

    how much memory do you have?
    I'm an antiquated guy.

    Actually I just abritarily picked a number since Ubuntu kept requesting that I create space for a swap file.
    It was also recommended on the Ubuntu forums in a discussion about installing Jaunty with the ext4 fs.

    I have 4GB on that rig which is actually the A7DA-S in my sig - not the AX78 I stated earlier.

    Now if you'll excuse me I've got to go crank my Model A up so that I'm not late for work.

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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Urbeg, if I go by your sig, you are using a pre r600 ATI GPU. How did you solve the driver issue?
    Hmm i'm not sure which issue you are talking about as my install has worked straight from the word go.

    If it helps I haven't installed the proprietary drivers, I went with the default xorg.conf settings as I didn't see much improvement with the proprietary drivers in my previous Ubuntu install.

    sure, there is no need to use ext4, but i find it SO much faster that i've been spoiled now that i've been using it for about 6 weeks. i can't go back. let me put it this way, fsck use to take about 90 seconds under ext3, and now with ext4, it takes 8 seconds. plus, the whole system feels so much more smooth and responsive.
    Wow, 82 seconds? If that is the kind of speed improvement I will see I'm definately going to switch it to ext4. I will do a test install of it using ext4 and let you know how it works out for me - keep in mind I'm using the 32bit version of Ubuntu.
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    Re: anyone try ubuntu 9.04?

    Quote Originally Posted by urbeg View Post
    I will do a test install of it using ext4 and let you know how it works out for me - keep in mind I'm using the 32bit version of Ubuntu.
    i'm using 64bit, so that may have something to do with the speed increase also. the 90 second fsck i mentioned was with a 32bit install. but most people have reported an appreciable increase in speed regardless of 32/64 bit.
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