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  1. #3871
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^^I find that this ad for BO care more accurately represents the type of person who voted for the law and the person behind it in the first place.



    The fact that the morons who keep voting Democrat can't figure out that their leaders see them as drunk idiots or onesie wearing man children tells me maybe the Dem leaders are right about them.

    Meanwhile stupid, clueless, Republican leaders can't understand why voters went for this guy instead of Jeb.

    Last edited by kbohip; 10-26-2016 at 01:14 PM.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Just got the annual kick in the ass from the health insurance company.

    If you recall, last year's 60%+ increase made me switch to basically catastrophic plan.

    This year premiums are going up another 35%. On top of that deductible is going up 15% in network, 17% out of network.

    I really don't remember anyone asking me if I was OK with subsidizing poor people's health insurance directly out of my pocket. I now pay over twice as much in premiums as I did 4 years ago, with about half the coverage.

    Time for this health care scam to die.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^ We got strapped with a nice $1000 deductable a couple of years ago. Then, less and less coverage each year to hide things and keep premiums down - they basically gutted our coverage. Now, in addition to the basic stuff ther are options for additional coverage for things that used to be in the basic plan.

    Obamacare was nothing but a lie from day 1. Re-Distribution of wealth scam.

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^ I like the second picture no doubt TT&BB like those super cool red flannel pajamas and hot chocolate... mmmm
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan



    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    ^^ I like the second picture no doubt TT&BB like those super cool red flannel pajamas and hot chocolate... mmmm
    I thought that was TT...

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    https://twitter.com/CounterMoonbat/s...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

    The 4 stages of Obamacare grief:

    1 It's the law
    2 It's working
    3 It's complicated
    4 Why won't the GOP help us fix the law we lied to pass?

    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^ Break out your check book and be prepared for premiums and deductibles that cost more than you earn. Every time you go to the doctor all you're going to get is the middle finger digital rectal exam because that's all your insurance will cover. Preventive care is good but the number one priority should always be healing the sick and the injured.

    The middle class takes it in the shorts just like always.

    Politicians exempt...
    Last edited by tucker; 10-28-2016 at 08:35 AM.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    I don't think many people get it.

    Universal, Single Payer health care will be such that the government will negotiate hospital procedure and medication prices on behalf of everyone. This is what happens in Australia.
    You pay extra in tax - in Australia it's about 2%. But you pay NO HEALTH INSURANCE costs.
    Also, in Australia, you can opt out of the government run scheme (Medicare in Australia) and just get Private Health cover. Medicare pays for essentials - sickness and injury. Private cover pays for essentials plus optional extras eg chiropractor.

    If this was done in the US, from what I've seen, you'd be about $200 per week better off.

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    ^^ it may work in Australia it won't work in a already over taxed country of 3 hundred and twenty million. A country with the highest number of illegals and the highest number of non-working people. Labor participation stinks. Socialism and communism always fails unless the population is held in captivity and slavery.

    btw... Why did you let the government cripple your gun rights... Puzzling...
    Last edited by tucker; 10-30-2016 at 08:49 AM.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Things are moving along pretty much as expected.

    “A lot of folks on the left will say that this is a huge sign of success -- look at all of these people who need coverage and help,” Nicholas Horton, senior research fellow at FGA and co-author of the report, told FoxNews.com. “My response is that it is not success when you have able-bodied adults who are being trapped in welfare and reducing their incentive to work.”

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    New York Was Overpaid for Obamacare Health Exchange Setup: Feds

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local...402450125.html

    Politicians are basically crooks and liars.

    More taxpayer money wasted on Obamacare. The greatest president EVAR with the greatest Heath Plan EVAR. You have to past it before you can see what's in it... Buyers remorse...
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Gee, it seems like only yesterday the left was telling us Obamacare and it's part-time work loophole wouldn't have an effect on full-time jobs. Yet here we are years down the road and the end result is exactly what we knew it would be.

    Recall that in October, the Household Survey revealed that the number of full-time workers tumbled by 103,000 as part-time workers jumped by 90,000. The trend continued in November, when another 118,000 part-time jobs were added, paired with a far more modest 9,000 increase in full -time jobs.

    The divergence is even uglier when looking at the non-seasonally adjusted jobs, i.e., real change: here we see a drop of 628,000 full-time jobs in November, offset by a surge in 678,000 part-time, mostly retail jobs.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-1...time-jobs-soar

    It's almost like employers found a way around that whole Obamacare thing and now we're screwed because of it.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^^ Not a surprise to anyone paying attention... or that gives a sh*t. I put the bammacare drones in the latter category. next up.. fight for $15... meet your replacements..



    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by AMDScooter View Post
    ^^^ Not a surprise to anyone paying attention... or that gives a sh*t. I put the bammacare drones in the latter category. next up.. fight for $15... meet your replacements..



    I would actually much rather order through a machine than have to deal with the idiots at the fast food joints most of the time. 30 years ago in Denver, there was an Arby's that had a fully automated touchscreen ordering system not unlike the one shown above. It was way ahead of it's time and worked great for me, but unfortunately a lot of people had a tough time with it which was understandable I suppose back then. They gave up on them after a couple of years and went back to the face to face system. I'm amazed that it's taken them this long to put them back in considering we now have a fully smartphone savvy society.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    I like the catch at the end...

    ObamaCare co-op in Maryland stops handling ObamaCare business


    Yet another ObamaCare co-op has shut down its operations — and taken $65.5 million in taxpayer subsidies with it. Evergreen Health Cooperative becomes the 18th co-op to shut down, most of which ceased operations over the past twelve months, leaving just five in operation for 2017. Six thousand customers who assumed they had picked their own insurance for next year in the open enrollment period will now have the state exchange automatically assign them an insurance plan, the Free Beacon reports:

    Evergreen Health Cooperative Inc. of Maryland announced earlier this month that it is withdrawing from the Affordable Care Act exchanges next year, leaving only five co-ops in operation. The co-op will not offer or renew individual health policies in 2017. …

    Earlier this year, Kevin Counihan, a top official for the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, told lawmakers that the remaining co-ops were on corrective action plans and could not give any assurance that the remaining co-ops would not fail.
    Did we say “fail”? That’s not exactly what’s happened to Evergreen. As it turns out, the ObamaCare co-op that got taxpayer startup funding isn’t blinking out of business as the other seventeen did. They’re just dumping the ObamaCare business and going private:

    While Evergreen Health will no longer offer plans on the Affordable Care Act exchange market, the company will continue to operate off the exchanges as it converts to a for-profit entity.
    Hey, they’re just getting a head start on ObamaCare’s repeal … right?

    Let’s recall the purpose of the co-ops in order to appreciate the karmic hilarity of this move. Democrats set up the co-ops as a replacement for the “public option” that they had to remove in order to pass the bill — the government-run plans that were supposed to provide competition against the eeeeeevil insurance companies. The co-ops were supposed to help transition ObamaCare into a single-payer plan by pushing insurers out of the markets by offering impossibly low premiums. It turned out that the co-ops could only survive with massive and ongoing government bailouts, which spoke volumes about Democrats’ assumptions about insurers and the insurance market. When Congress cut off the bailouts, the co-ops began folding like cheap suits.

    However, this co-op took ObamaCare federal start-up subsidies to provide the Democrats’ planned path to socialized medicine, and … now wants to transform itself into the very type of insurer that Democrats wanted to destroy. That’s so laughably ironic that it’s almost worth the hijacking of taxpayer dollars to see it. Almost.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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