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  1. #4081
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    It's a bad bill... hope it dies.

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    It's a bad bill... hope it dies.
    Obamacare lite or Obamacare 2.0 ... Whichever you prefer.

    They want you to be patient young grasshopper. I've been patient for 8 years and the establishment republicans haven't done shit so you see incomplete legislation. Maybe they ought to start working a 40 hour week.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^^ My thoughts are simple... if that's all they've got after seven years to think about it... they should be voted out.

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    ^ They should be voted out it's willful neglect...
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    Nancy Pelosi’s Health Care Tweet Gets Unintended Response

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/nancy...nded-response/

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    Nancy Pelosi’s Health Care Tweet Gets Unintended Response

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/nancy...nded-response/

    TRANSLATION: Just another government administrated clusterphuk.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveW View Post
    TRANSLATION: Just another government administrated clusterphuk.
    Old Nancy her age is starting to show mentally she's making stupid mistakes and her microphone and camera work is confusing blather a 5 year old would reject.
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    'Loss is not acceptable': House to move on health bill, as Trump rolls dice

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...olls-dice.html

    Trump better be real careful about aligning himself to closely with the republican establishment. Ryan and the establishment are trying to push a poorly planned poorly written piece of crap not much different than Obamacare. I really believe Ryan and the establishment want failure. They are perfectly happy with the status quo.

    Trump needs to remember the establishment is th never Trump crew. They will stab him in the back if he gives them the opportunity.
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    Trump blames Democrats for GOP health care bill failure, says ObamaCare is 'imploding'

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...imploding.html

    I blame Ryan and the republican establishment they had seven years to come up with a replacement and they came up with a steaming pile of nothing new except a name change. I think it wasn't accidental they're happy with the status quo... No frigging guts...

    Everybody knew they wouldn't get a single democrap vote. Ryan screwed the president and me and you.
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    Trump signals new hope for ObamaCare overhaul, says 'Do not worry!'

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...not-worry.html

    Russian!!
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Not getting much play in the media wing of the DNC.. but apparently bamma raided the profits to keep bammacare from imploding while he was in office. PDT should "fix" that and let the chips fall.

    Obamacare Implosion Now? Since Obama Siphoned GSE Dividends To Prop Up, Can Trump Simply Halt 1st Qtr Sweep?


    Earlier this month, Harvard Ph.D. Jerome Corsi of InfoWars (@jerome_corsi) and a CPA "who worked for two years for a major U.S. accounting firm as an outside auditor for Freddie Mac," confirmed a 2012 scheme hatched by the Obama administration to funnel hundreds of billions in dividends from Government Sponsored Enterprises (GSE) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to prop up the failing Obamacare program - by paying subsidies to insurers to remain in the system.

    If you need to catch up on it, read the InfoWars article above or watch this 18 minute video:


    The conclusion reached by Corsi and others is that this was probably illegal.

    In fact, House Republicans actually sued the Obama Administration in 2014 over the fact that the subsidies to insurers weren't appropriated by congress and won, which the Obama administration appealed. As Zerohedge and the Atlanta Journal Constitution pointed out last week, the Trump administration has until May 22nd to decide whether or not to pursue the appeal:


    In 2014, House Republicans sued the Obama administration over the constitutionality of the cost-sharing reduction payments, which had not been appropriated by Congress. The lawmakers won the lawsuit, and the Obama administration appealed it. Late last year, with a new administration on the other end of the suit, the House sought to pause the proceedings — with a deadline for a status update in late May. -AJC

    And a ZeroHedge analysis:


    Of course, any decision to remove those subsidies would likely result in yet another massive round of premium hikes and further withdrawals from the already crippled exchanges where an astounding number of counties across the country have already been cut to just 1 health insurance provider. And, as we've pointed out before, higher rates = lower participation = deterioration of risk pool = higher rates....and the cycle just repeats until it eventually collapses. -ZeroHedge

    Meanwhile, President Trump has made several Tweets since the Ryancare debacle in congress:
    ObamaCare will explode and we will all get together and piece together a great healthcare plan for THE PEOPLE. Do not worry!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 25, 2017
    The Democrats will make a deal with me on healthcare as soon as ObamaCare folds - not long. Do not worry, we are in very good shape!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 28, 2017

    But wait, could it happen even sooner? Former Blackrock portfolio manager Ed Dowd may be on to something...
    By not long...do you literally mean weeks as you order the stop of the illegal Fannie/Freddy dividend sweep into Treasury thus ensuring ????? https://t.co/VEQ4bkgduG
    — Ed (@DowdEdward) March 28, 2017

    Since MSM won't report #Fanniegate all #Trump has to do is stop the steal and Obamacareliterally implodes ???? Within weeks. Watch Dems run!???? https://t.co/vLzeJQbEhR
    — Ed (@DowdEdward) March 26, 2017

    Simple question: what if Trump's Treasury simply stopped the illegal dividend sweep NOW? It is the end of the 1st quarter, after all...

    Not only would it force the MSM to cover Obama's 2012 scheme to siphon funds from Fannie and Freddie, the stage would be set for far more sensible healthcare solutions from lawmakers who aren't simply shilling for the industry.
    Update: And look who Trump's golfing with today - Rand Paul and OMB Director Mick Mulvaney...

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Looks like ACE has it up now as well:

    Did Obama Illegally Divert Money From Fannie and Freddie Mae to Prop Up Obamacare?

    Might be another scandal from the Scandal-Free Administration (TM).Note that this story started with allegations from Jerome Corsi, Alex Jones, and InfoWars -- however, it seems to be snowballing into a genuine story, not just a speculation or rumor.

    After the Affordable Care Act was signed into law, Obamacare opponents in the House of Representatives shrewdly refused to fund handouts to insurance companies to subsidize health insurance premiums for lower-income individuals. Since the primary purpose of the legislation was to provide subsidized health insurance for struggling Americans, Obamacare was left in a lurch.

    The executive branch tried everything from deceptive accounting to shell games to move money from one pot of government funds to the Obamacare till. Ultimately, a federal judge stepped in and ruled that the Department of Health and Human Services could not redirect other federal funds to pay for the subsidies.

    Within weeks, however, the subsidies were miraculously funded, against the will of Congress.

    Recently revealed documents appear to confirm that the sudden influx of Obamacare funds was money the Obama administration diverted from Fannie and Freddie.

    As these additional details emerged, respected financial reporters such as Maria Bartiromo of Fox News and the Fox Business Network began lambasting Obama for his dishonest budgetary tactics.
    Fannie and Freddie have shareholders -- and the shareholders are suing, making the claim, basically, that Obama embezzled them.

    Update: More background from ZeroHedge, including a bit I'd forgotten -- the House of Representatives sued over this practice in 2014.

    Tucker Carlson talked about this a couple of nights ago. The discussion begins at 35:50 (near the end of the show). Josh Rosner, managing director of Graham Fischer Management Company (no, I don't know who he is or what that is) calls this "a simple theft."



    Thanks to Jack Straw
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^^ We should take bets on when Obambi will say into the microphone, "I am not a crook".

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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    ^^ All we need now is Deep Throat.
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    Re: Obama's "Public" Health Care Plan

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchcedar View Post
    ^^^ We should take bets on when Obambi will say into the microphone, "I am not a crook".
    Never happen, Obama is way to narcissistic to even entertain that. How narcissistic you ask? More narcissistic than TicToc.....

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