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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by tucker View Post
    I think you have it all wrong. After 4 years of what we have right now the country is going to be more than ready for fiscal responsibility and adult supervision in Washington, DC. You don’t get fiscal responsibility with RINOS or moderates that aren’t much different from what we have right now.

    I’ve figured out why the liberals hate old Sarah so much. She has everything to do with the middle class and the middle class is what the out of touch elitist liberals really hate. The middle class is the only thing between them and the socialist Shangri-La they want so badly.

    The dems lose big in 2010 and in 2012 it will be a democratic party disaster.
    I think both parties lose big in 2010, your prediction is the usual thing that happens, so what you're saying is history will probably run it's course in 2010.

    But saying I/Dems hate SP because she's "supposedly" for the middle class is way off base. I don't like her because of most of her views (religious nut, anti-gay, pro-gun, anti-environment, I could go on forever).

    I am middle class from the midwest and I don't think she supports my views (right or left) at all.

    My father (early 90's) is somewhat conservative and thinks she's a nut case looking to make a fast buck off the very people she "claims" to be for..

    Just how does your party grow by going further to the right? I'm curious as to how that works, it didn't in New York's 23rd, you had the "RINO" supporting the Democrat and he won.
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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by liteman View Post
    Who was this kid, I'm guessing he must have been a "WIT" (winger in training). No adult would use that term, I'm guessing 16 or 17 yrs.old.
    Well, I often referred to him as the TLR resident Alex Keaton. You'll know the reference if you've ever watched "Family Ties." As for the owned bit? Andrew took a juvenile saying and made it his own. Lol, I'll never forget how infuriated it made Orang. Speaking of which that's yet another PCPeer who's gone completely missing. I think there's maybe two dozen people at best I recognize here from the old pre PCP days anymore, and lately they're dropping off like flies.
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    Re: Election 2010

    Schiff's message is becoming more refined and compelling and is starting to translate into layman's terms.

    While I may not agree with him on some key issues, he is a chunk of what we need in government. And I think he is going to win and oust Chris Dodd. More republicans better find similar genuineness and conviction- cause I'm working to oust 3 Repubican incumbents and two of them are Jon Kyl and John McCain.

    It's about 1/2 hour to get through them all (note: they lost Part 3)- but here is how it's coming.

    Part 1:


    Part 2

    Part 4
    Last edited by AeroSim; 12-16-2009 at 09:29 PM.
    "We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government....

    Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business."

    William Jennings Bryan.

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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    Well, I often referred to him as the TLR resident Alex Keaton. You'll know the reference if you've ever watched "Family Ties." As for the owned bit? Andrew took a juvenile saying and made it his own. Lol, I'll never forget how infuriated it made Orang. Speaking of which that's yet another PCPeer who's gone completely missing. I think there's maybe two dozen people at best I recognize here from the old pre PCP days anymore, and lately they're dropping off like flies.
    Andrew let himself get baited into bannage then decided it just was not worth the effort.
    "The most dangerous myth is the demagoguery that business can be made to pay a larger share, thus relieving the individual. Politicians preaching this are either deliberately dishonest, or economically illiterate, and either one should scare us...
    Only people pay taxes, and people pay as consumers every tax that is assessed against a business."


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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    Well, I often referred to him as the TLR resident Alex Keaton. You'll know the reference if you've ever watched "Family Ties." As for the owned bit? Andrew took a juvenile saying and made it his own. Lol, I'll never forget how infuriated it made Orang. Speaking of which that's yet another PCPeer who's gone completely missing. I think there's maybe two dozen people at best I recognize here from the old pre PCP days anymore, and lately they're dropping off like flies.
    Actually, I think it's more that the venues are changing- and are more compelling to many.

    They're likely spending more time at places like YouTube, Twitter, MySpace, and Facebook and getting more information from videos, webcasts and podcasts.

    And personally, I think forums like this one may survive because it is making allowances for links to these. My bottom-line opinion- I think forums will survive because they are still a great hub or starting point for information and will be on again and off again for community.
    Last edited by AeroSim; 12-16-2009 at 10:08 PM.
    "We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government....

    Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business."

    William Jennings Bryan.

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    Re: Election 2010

    BTW- If you're from Arizona and Republican- get rid of John McCain. He was a good squid but turned into just another politician. It's time for a change...

    http://jimdeakin.com/

    I guess it takes another squid to know that....

    Think about it- I know I'm digging deeper into this one.
    Last edited by AeroSim; 01-04-2010 at 03:46 PM.
    "We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government....

    Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business."

    William Jennings Bryan.

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    Re: Election 2010

    All I can say for 2010 elections is I am freaking super happy that it will mean Jennifer Granholm's reign of terror will be at an end. Maybe Michigan can get a good Gov'na? Probably not though since there are so many stupid liberal retards running around detroit wondering why our state sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bearded Frog View Post
    All I can say for 2010 elections is I am freaking super happy that it will mean Jennifer Granholm's reign of terror will be at an end. Maybe Michigan can get a good Gov'na? Probably not though since there are so many stupid liberal retards running around detroit wondering why our state sucks.
    I don't envy you- I don't envy you at all. Too bad. I spent some time in Mich. (Livonia), and traveled about a bit- nice place- it reminds me of what green really looks like when I visit from AZ.

    But fear not. If the current status quo continues like they are, they'll have Helicopter Ben Bernacke make a few airdrops of relief packages.

    Of course, I'm not really sure where to go next if the rest of the country winds up like Detroit....
    "We say in our platform that we believe that the right to coin money and issue money is a function of government....

    Those who are opposed to this proposition tell us that the issue of paper money is a function of the bank and that the government ought to go out of the banking business. I stand with Jefferson rather than with them, and tell them, as he did, that the issue of money is a function of the government and that the banks should go out of the governing business."

    William Jennings Bryan.

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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by AeroSim View Post
    I don't envy you- I don't envy you at all. Too bad. I spent some time in Mich. (Livonia), and traveled about a bit- nice place- it reminds me of what green really looks like when I visit from AZ.

    But fear not. If the current status quo continues like they are, they'll have Helicopter Ben Bernacke make a few airdrops of relief packages.

    Of course, I'm not really sure where to go next if the rest of the country winds up like Detroit....
    That may be made in jest but it probably isnt far off. Unemployment is currently about 15% and only set to rise in 2010. Detroit is like a warzone of crime, poverty and despair. People like to shrug this off as "oh its just the auto industry." Uhm yeah thats a huge part of it but why are they failing? Michigan is CONSTANTLY raising taxes and costs on businesses. As a result they are running out of businesses left to tax. Who would start a business in michigan when there are so many better alternatives not far away?

    Michigan is a sign of what is to come with the rest of the country. We are leading the way. We're kind of like the internal version of Europe. The National Gov't wants to follow our lead and we're all wondering why...

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    Re: Election 2010

    what texas candidates should one look at?

    and how the hell do you get schiff to look at what bill still has to say? can any of you buy his services for a short time to see if you can get into contact with him directly.
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    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
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    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
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    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by liteman View Post
    I think both parties lose big in 2010, your prediction is the usual thing that happens, so what you're saying is history will probably run it's course in 2010.

    But saying I/Dems hate SP because she's "supposedly" for the middle class is way off base. I don't like her because of most of her views (religious nut, anti-gay, pro-gun, anti-environment, I could go on forever).

    I am middle class from the midwest and I don't think she supports my views (right or left) at all.

    My father (early 90's) is somewhat conservative and thinks she's a nut case looking to make a fast buck off the very people she "claims" to be for..

    Just how does your party grow by going further to the right? I'm curious as to how that works, it didn't in New York's 23rd, you had the "RINO" supporting the Democrat and he won.
    I'm wondering how much longer your party can keep it's head in the sand about the results of "The Great Liberal Dream" in California and Michigan.

    There is a concept called "Cause and Effect" at play - no government in history has been able to Tax it's way to Prosperity - Obama and the current Democratic Congress don't seem to understand that.

    I expect come election day the results will speak for themselves.

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    ^^^Not even Michael Steele is predicting a Repub takeover of Congress.

    Just how does your party grow by going further to the right?
    Last edited by liteman; 01-12-2010 at 03:22 AM.
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    Re: Election 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by liteman View Post
    ^^^Not even Michael Steele is predicting a Repub takeover of Congress.

    Just how does your party grow by going further to the right?
    I don't have a party sir. However, further to the right must mean Republicans.

    Right now the it's the Democrats doing the fine Team Building job for the Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by liteman View Post
    Not even Michael Steele is predicting a Repub takeover of Congress.
    Maybe his beans don't say so or maybe he's not willing to make predictions before there are even candidates in place. Either way, if Michael Steele is your weather vane, good luck with that.

    Just how does your party grow by going further to the right?
    First, growth may not even be that important, but numbers at the polling booth are. With such a large population of unaffiliated voters, the number in the party seems to be mattering less and less. It has more to do with motivating the members to show up and drawing the independents to your candidates. You can do both of those things with strong convictions. Its probably less effective than being Democrat Lite, as John McCain showed us so well.

    Democrats might be better sounding boards for your question, with liberals being out-numbered by conservatives 2 to 1, but with liberals in control of the Democrat Party. Not just casual liberals either, but extremists like Pelosi, Reid and Obambi.

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    Right now the it's the Democrats doing the fine Team Building job for the Republicans.
    Doing a fine job indeed.

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