heatware - http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=29781
If he never registered the 360 when he bought it the warrenty should be "transferable" because microsoft won't even know your not the original owner. and who really registers their products?
Updated info: I had the price wrong. It's $130 for X360 with one wireless controller. I've updated the thread title with that correction. $150 with Gears of War, the only game he has that Buu is interested it. The only other game Buu is interested in right now is Halo 3.
The seller doesn't have the original receipt but the date of manufacture on the back of the console is Sept 2007. I'm not sure if he has registered it (need to find that out). When asked what he would have done (before selling it) if it got the RR error he said he would have called MS and given then the console serial number to identify it. He has not had any reliability issues with it so far. If Buu purchased it he would be able to remain in contact with the seller for the next 12-14 months or so if the RR happened to occur and the original owner had already registered it preventing us from registering it for the first time.
Question about the RR - someone mentioned that it's relatively easy to fix by changing a heatsink or something like that? I think I could handle that as a last resort if I was unable to get it fixed under the extended 3 year warranty.
Last edited by Lenny; 06-28-2009 at 03:22 PM.
but im just gonna toss this out here.
i bought my xbox 360 20gb version (before they ever came out with the elite back when this was the top model) in January of 2007.
and my xbox 360 works fine, i have NEVER gotten the RROD. in fact i haven't really had any issues with it.
just saying that because while there were ALOT of bad apples, not all were bad.
if it was bought in the last year its still under warranty i believe. you should be good eitherway.
There are a number of home remedies for the RR. The one I hear of the most is wrapping it in a towel to solve the HS issue. My friend did it and it kept it goign for a few more weeks. Opening it up is the more complicated of the two. Im not sure if the latter is a permanent fix or not, since there arnt any long term studies short of personal anecdotes.
GoW for 20$ isnt bad , but there are SO many halo 3 floating around that you can pick it up for bargain bin prices.
Buying an older model 360 is buying a time bomb no matter how you look at it. On one hand, you can help out a friend in the immediate future, otoh problems down the line may ruin the friendship unless the terms are clearly established.
I personally wouldnt do it. 360s can be snagged for cheap with a little patience. Dell often run 20-25% off coupons every few months, and that knocks the arcade down to 151$ and the pro to 220$ (elite to like 300$ if you have the cash). 20gb HDs are all over fleabay for cheap too, so for about 40$ more than what he is asking, you can get a newer model and peace of mind. I suppose you can buy his and get a squaretrade warranty on it if you really want to help him out.
heatware - http://www.heatware.com/eval.php?id=29781
Good price, and if you do get RR, you can permanently fix it by taking it apart, putting good thermal paste on it, and changing the way the heatsink mounts. Go watch some utube videos to see how easy it is. Don't do the towel trick, as it is temporary and may wreck it permanently.
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You guys have provided a lot of great feedback and opinions on both sides of the fence. Buu is leaning towards buying the used 20gb model. Final decision to be made real soon.
From what I see, fixing the RROD is a hit or miss venture. For $120 though, it's almost worth it even if it only goes another 2 years before it croaks. Aren't they still $250.00 new?
Last edited by kbohip; 06-28-2009 at 10:08 PM.
I know this is especially comparable to the new car/used car analogy, where saving a little money isn't worth it in the long run. But in this case I don't have the money to toss around for a new Xbox. If I can get a working system for cheap and have it last a while it's worth it. Like kbohip said.
The RRoD seems to be covered, with either giving it to him for sending back in in the next 2 years, registering it and sending it back myself, or if all else fails and the warranty is over a while from now, DIY. He's had it for a year and it's been fine, as well as not being one of the very early models. Both pluses.
Mainly Halo and Gears of War, but I do realize the Xbox is much more versatile as a platform.
I don't consider the friendship an issue. A hardware failure isn't something to hold someone accountable for.
Your guys' input is greatly appreciated.
How important is the size of the hard drive? Is it used mainly to stored saved games and such? Can you install a bigger drive yourself if you wanted to? Can a drive be installed in a new 360 Arcade?
If you plan on having a lot of games AND play a lot of them frequently, then the 20gb of space will be gone - so a 120gb solution would be better. A 20gb is great to start out with.
Also, MS warranties the RROD issue for up to 3 years. Everything else (ie DVDROM not reading after one year) has the standard 1 year warranty.
In some cases the RROD cannot be avoided, even if you put it in an environment that will keep it cool. Even the brand new revision (Jasper) models are having an RROD like issue.
It basically cannot be avoided regardless of which route you take to get an xbox360.
Besides if its from a friend in school... if it breaks down within a week Buu can just beat him up to get his money back .