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    hello hello

    I don't even know how to start this thread but basically, my life is somewhat of a mess and I don't know how to get my shit together. This isn't a WAH thread but I'm just looking for ideas.

    I have a lot of anxiety & depression. I'm only 19 and I'm losing hair like crazy and even getting gray hairs. The stress of life is just slowly killing me.

    I'm 99% sure that I have some form of aspergers. I've always felt anxious and it seems just as much as a sensory thing as a psychological one. I have the whole run of symptoms, crazy fatigue, pain, etc etc etc. It makes it really hard to get motivated and accomplish things.

    I notice that lights are extremely bright for me, I have to constantly squint. It's like there are spot lights up in my face. I also have some kind of auditory perception problem because it's really hard for me to make out what people say and hear nuances.

    Where this all really ••••s with me is that it affects my ability to socialize with people, which is what life is really about. I can't really have conversations and just am extremely uncomfortable. Even with my friends I have anxiety and just feel zoned out. When I'm zoned out and can't think of anything to say it just makes my anxiety worse.

    In the back of my mind I kind of knew I was different but didn't really think of it. Only until recently have I really seen myself without my ego to protect me and it's a huge mind ••••.

    The other day I was invited to a party and didn't go because it just would of been uncomfortable. Every time I go to one the same thing happens really.

    I've tried the medication route and holy shit is it scary what these doctors do. I think I've been prescribe just about everything possible. Adderall helps me focus and get things done but it usually totally ••••s with my head and it caused a stroke before. Just reading my writing I've noticed a huge decline in IQ.

    I'm seeing a psychologist right now and am thinking of getting a prescription of beta blockers to help with anxiety.

    What can I really do?
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    Re: hello hello

    pry yourself out from in front of that monitor first off. Take a trip to the beach or something and bum around for a bit, you would be suprised how much better you will feel after some fun in the sun looking at buns!

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    Re: hello hello

    And yer favorite beach-front watering hole, of course
    Now, start folding in the pond with us and you'll recieve a lot of
    this gal's attention


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    Maybe you need to go see a pin doctor. I thought it was just a lot
    of BS, but my sis went and after he got done sticking pins in her
    a few times, her vertigo was history and it's helped her bad back
    quite a bit..Never know.

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    Dont get on prescription meds. When i was a kid they tried to tell me i had add and put me on Ritalin. That crap makes your brain feel like its in slow motion. What was worse was my mom wanted me to take it. So i had to hide the pills i wasnt taking.

    If your feeling stressed out, go for a run, hit the punching bag.

    Or my way, which i dont suggest for everyone. Roll up a doobie, take it to a quite part of the beach. Sit, spark and relax. Sunset is a good time to do it.


    When your in social situations do you get antsy because you wondering what there thinking about what your saying?

    And dont worry to much about the zoning out when people are talking. I do this allllll the time. They start talking and i go off thinking about crazy stuff in my head. Just to come back to he conversation when they have stopped talking and are asking me about what they said.

    Just say yep sounds good. Usually works for me


    I really wouldnt take meds though.

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    light really messes me up as well after a little fireworks incident many years ago

    stress? get an aquarium..look at them fishes going around and caring less about the next whatever seconds their brain processes ahead than a dead leaf..and then go out with as many women as you can...thatll teach you a whole lot

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    Re: hello hello

    Quote Originally Posted by computermaniac View Post
    I don't even know how to start this thread but basically, my life is somewhat of a mess and I don't know how to get my shit together. This isn't a WAH thread but I'm just looking for ideas.

    I have a lot of anxiety & depression. I'm only 19 and I'm losing hair like crazy and even getting gray hairs. The stress of life is just slowly killing me.

    I'm 99% sure that I have some form of aspergers. I've always felt anxious and it seems just as much as a sensory thing as a psychological one. I have the whole run of symptoms, crazy fatigue, pain, etc etc etc. It makes it really hard to get motivated and accomplish things.

    I notice that lights are extremely bright for me, I have to constantly squint. It's like there are spot lights up in my face. I also have some kind of auditory perception problem because it's really hard for me to make out what people say and hear nuances.

    Where this all really ••••s with me is that it affects my ability to socialize with people, which is what life is really about. I can't really have conversations and just am extremely uncomfortable. Even with my friends I have anxiety and just feel zoned out. When I'm zoned out and can't think of anything to say it just makes my anxiety worse.

    In the back of my mind I kind of knew I was different but didn't really think of it. Only until recently have I really seen myself without my ego to protect me and it's a huge mind ••••.

    The other day I was invited to a party and didn't go because it just would of been uncomfortable. Every time I go to one the same thing happens really.

    I've tried the medication route and holy shit is it scary what these doctors do. I think I've been prescribe just about everything possible. Adderall helps me focus and get things done but it usually totally ••••s with my head and it caused a stroke before. Just reading my writing I've noticed a huge decline in IQ.

    I'm seeing a psychologist right now and am thinking of getting a prescription of beta blockers to help with anxiety.

    What can I really do?
    Eliminate as much MSG from your diet as you possibly can. Let me say this again. Eliminate as much MSG from your diet as you possible can. Screw the beta blockers, and the Xanax and the Prozac and whatever else your doctor will put you on. They won't help. They will however freak you out more if like me, you hear strange things going on inside your head after taking them. I read an opinion once that said taking Xanax made the patient feel like there were bugs crawling around in his head. It sounds funny until you're in the same situation. Let's just say that a year ago I was there, right there where you are now. Within 10 minutes of taking a Xanax pill, I'd hear the strange noises in my head. I took these pills a total of 4 times before I figured out this wasn't for me.

    How did I get to this point? At the age of 27, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Lucky for me, it was benign. However, it was growing and benign or not it would eventually kill me if I didn't have it removed. I chose a form of treatment known as radio neurosurgery, they refer to it now simply as the gamma knife. Basically this amounts to sending 254 beams of Kobalt uranium into the center of the tumor thereby (hopefully) killing it. It killed it. I wouldn't be typing this right now if it didn't.

    I should be happy right? Well, last year for whatever reason I was looking up info on the gamma knife treatment when I came across a figure I'd not seen before. It seems that in roughly 5% of people who've had a benign tumor treated with the gamma knife, those tumors become malignant. 5% doesn't sound like anything to anyone else, unless you're someone with an acoustic neuroma, a type of brain tumor that only 1 in 100,000 people get.

    This info scared the shit out of me. Here I was at the age of 35 not worrying about a thing. I certainly wasn't worried about dying, as I hadn't even thought about life insurance until then. I was literally worried maybe 10 seconds when I first heard the news that I had a brain tumor back in '99. The doctor then told me it was malignant and I had options. I was 26 then, and I guess I just didn't worry about my health as much as I do now.

    To make a very long story short, all it took for me was reading the info that 5% of the types of tumors that I have treated the way I had it treated turned cancerous turned me into a nervous wreck. I'd honestly never given this dead tumor a second thought before. The only reminder I'd ever had of the ••••••• was the total hearing loss in my left ear...and the ringing.

    I went to my doctor a wreck. I had an anxiety attack in which I was positive I was having a heart attack. I told the doctor that I had been having pains in my chest leading up to the "attack" and that I was sure I'd had a heart attack. Later on when it turned out my heart was fine I tried to convince him that I had angina.

    My doctor though had a lot of help on this issue of anxiety. His own son had suffered from the same thing so he knew exactly what I was going through. He told me that it was all in my head. I looked at him incredulously as if he'e just told me I was gay or a female. Needless to say I was sure he wasn't correct in his opinion. I then set out to prove him wrong. I started riding my excersise bike every other night. I was positive I'd have something bad happen to me, but it never did. My heart was fine. My brain was fine.

    Then one night I went out drinking with my friends. That night I was completely pain free. I never thought about the chest pains I was sure I was having. I never thought about the tumor in my head that I was sure was turning malignant and was sure to do me in. I simply....for the first time in many months relaxed.

    My advice to you is this. Go out with some friends as soon as you can. Have a few drinks. I can almost guarantee you that you won't be thinking about the problems you are thinking you are having.

    Getting back to the MSG. MSG was causing me to have headaches. Not just normal headaches but the type that would be with me from the time I woke up in the morning until I went to sleep that night. I would usually throw up as well. I would get these headaches at least once a week, and often times more. Then one day I had an incredibly painful headache. All day long I was in agony and throwing up. Then my wife asked me...could it be MSG? We'd eaten at a Chinese restaurant the night before. This had happened before to not just me, but even my wife. It turned out that she had headaches after eating there too.

    That was a year ago. Since then, I've had about 6 headaches. I used to have that many in 2 weeks. I stopped eating anything I could find that has large doses of MSG in it. Not only are my headaches almost completely gone, I've not had any more panic attacks. Stay away from the MSG! Google it and learn all of the other names it's got too. There are almost 40 of them. Good luck!

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    try eating real food. jeremiah or organic valley eggs, organic peanuts, good cocnut oil (i use jarrow formula... and take in lots of fat. it's good for you). lots of berries and cherries and bananas, norwegian cod liver oil, unpasteurized cheese (you can get it at sprouts and whole foods)... and all that sort of stuff. get all genetically modified crap out of your food. stay away from most grains. eat plenty of grass fed beef. also, organic gelatin (gobio is good) is great for the joints. some of those meds will mess up your joints. and drink distilled water. get all fluoride out of your water intake (fluoride is easily absorbed through the skin by the way) and all aluminum away from your food.


    and that gm food has been shown to make cows infertile BTW. so, that may be some of the problem with your hair. there's two gals at work with that same hair loss problem.


    and i'm serious. this sort of diet has done wonders for me. my mental acuity is up, my weight is down 40-45 lbs depending on the day and i feel better than ever.

    your diet is EXTREMELY important to your mental health. your brain is a physical part of you after all.


    and stay off the ••••••• pills for christs sake! those things do nothing! been there, done that. it's all just a •••••••• sales pitch. if the doc is prescribing you things, find a new doc. your problem is your logic and viewpoint. you don't fix that with pills. you fix that with learning.

    and by the way, those pills will kill you if you keep taking them. they'll •••• every system in your body up beyond repair. i ended up with gynecomastia after taking effexor. thank god it didn't •••• me up down there, if you know what i mean.
    Last edited by old82; 07-03-2009 at 05:26 AM.
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    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemφller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbohip View Post
    Eliminate as much MSG from your diet as you possibly can. Let me say this again. Eliminate as much MSG from your diet as you possible can. Screw the beta blockers, and the Xanax and the Prozac and whatever else your doctor will put you on. They won't help. They will however freak you out more if like me, you hear strange things going on inside your head after taking them. I read an opinion once that said taking Xanax made the patient feel like there were bugs crawling around in his head. It sounds funny until you're in the same situation. Let's just say that a year ago I was there, right there where you are now. Within 10 minutes of taking a Xanax pill, I'd hear the strange noises in my head. I took these pills a total of 4 times before I figured out this wasn't for me.

    How did I get to this point? At the age of 27, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. Lucky for me, it was benign. However, it was growing and benign or not it would eventually kill me if I didn't have it removed. I chose a form of treatment known as radio neurosurgery, they refer to it now simply as the gamma knife. Basically this amounts to sending 254 beams of Kobalt uranium into the center of the tumor thereby (hopefully) killing it. It killed it. I wouldn't be typing this right now if it didn't.

    I should be happy right? Well, last year for whatever reason I was looking up info on the gamma knife treatment when I came across a figure I'd not seen before. It seems that in roughly 5% of people who've had a benign tumor treated with the gamma knife, those tumors become malignant. 5% doesn't sound like anything to anyone else, unless you're someone with an acoustic neuroma, a type of brain tumor that only 1 in 100,000 people get.

    This info scared the shit out of me. Here I was at the age of 35 not worrying about a thing. I certainly wasn't worried about dying, as I hadn't even thought about life insurance until then. I was literally worried maybe 10 seconds when I first heard the news that I had a brain tumor back in '99. The doctor then told me it was malignant and I had options. I was 26 then, and I guess I just didn't worry about my health as much as I do now.

    To make a very long story short, all it took for me was reading the info that 5% of the types of tumors that I have treated the way I had it treated turned cancerous turned me into a nervous wreck. I'd honestly never given this dead tumor a second thought before. The only reminder I'd ever had of the ••••••• was the total hearing loss in my left ear...and the ringing.

    I went to my doctor a wreck. I had an anxiety attack in which I was positive I was having a heart attack. I told the doctor that I had been having pains in my chest leading up to the "attack" and that I was sure I'd had a heart attack. Later on when it turned out my heart was fine I tried to convince him that I had angina.

    My doctor though had a lot of help on this issue of anxiety. His own son had suffered from the same thing so he knew exactly what I was going through. He told me that it was all in my head. I looked at him incredulously as if he'e just told me I was gay or a female. Needless to say I was sure he wasn't correct in his opinion. I then set out to prove him wrong. I started riding my excersise bike every other night. I was positive I'd have something bad happen to me, but it never did. My heart was fine. My brain was fine.

    Then one night I went out drinking with my friends. That night I was completely pain free. I never thought about the chest pains I was sure I was having. I never thought about the tumor in my head that I was sure was turning malignant and was sure to do me in. I simply....for the first time in many months relaxed.

    My advice to you is this. Go out with some friends as soon as you can. Have a few drinks. I can almost guarantee you that you won't be thinking about the problems you are thinking you are having.

    Getting back to the MSG. MSG was causing me to have headaches. Not just normal headaches but the type that would be with me from the time I woke up in the morning until I went to sleep that night. I would usually throw up as well. I would get these headaches at least once a week, and often times more. Then one day I had an incredibly painful headache. All day long I was in agony and throwing up. Then my wife asked me...could it be MSG? We'd eaten at a Chinese restaurant the night before. This had happened before to not just me, but even my wife. It turned out that she had headaches after eating there too.

    That was a year ago. Since then, I've had about 6 headaches. I used to have that many in 2 weeks. I stopped eating anything I could find that has large doses of MSG in it. Not only are my headaches almost completely gone, I've not had any more panic attacks. Stay away from the MSG! Google it and learn all of the other names it's got too. There are almost 40 of them. Good luck!
    I get headaches almost daily, some days much worse then others. Never thought about msg before being the cause. Next time i eat chinese food im going to have to see if there worse the next day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old82 View Post
    try eating real food. jeremiah or organic valley eggs, organic peanuts, good cocnut oil (i use jarrow formula... and take in lots of fat. it's good for you). lots of berries and cherries and bananas, norwegian cod liver oil, unpasteurized cheese (you can get it at sprouts and whole foods)... and all that sort of stuff. get all genetically modified crap out of your food. stay away from most grains. eat plenty of grass fed beef. also, organic gelatin (gobio is good) is great for the joints. some of those meds will mess up your joints. and drink distilled water. get all fluoride out of your water intake (fluoride is easily absorbed through the skin by the way) and all aluminum away from your food.

    My diet is terrible, and I know I've got to change it. I drink R/O water as much as I can when at home. My big thing right now is getting away from MSG as much as I can. It really, really messes me up. Indigestion, migraines, even sore muscles in the upper back. It's a shame too, as MSG does wonders for the flavor of foods.

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    try tumeric and garlic and all that. tumeric is amazing to taste and very good for you.

    i forgot to mention, you can get grass fed beef cheap if you find a farmer and butcher, some people to group buy with. and organic peanuts are only like 30 cents more a lbs than the regular ones.
    Last edited by old82; 07-04-2009 at 02:33 PM.
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemφller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

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    Re: hello hello

    Stay away from grains? Grains are like in everything lol, how else would i get carbs?
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    Re: hello hello

    My best advice would be:

    1)Trust God
    2)Eat healthy/Drink Water
    3)Exercise 3-4 times a week
    4)If you have people you love in your life, spend time with them
    5)Try to have some fun (within reason)

    As a Christian, I believe anxiety is best treated by casting our cares on God and remembering He is able to do immeasurably beyond what we can even imagine. Anxiety and depression are not new afflictions to humanity;they have both been around since the beginning....

    1 Peter 5:7 (New International Version)
    7Cast all your anxiety on Him because He cares for you


    But regardless of your religious beliefs, I agree 100% that Meds are NOT the solution
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    Re: hello hello

    Quote Originally Posted by computermaniac View Post
    Stay away from grains? Grains are like in everything lol, how else would i get carbs?
    wild rice and bananas and fruit (i guess wild rice is a grain... supposedly it's still healthy)

    and aye, god can cure your illness with the wonder of nature, and our ability to eat it!
    Max Plank: "A new scientific truth does not
    triumph by convincing its opponents and making them
    see the light,
    but rather because its opponents eventually die"
    Arthur Shopenhauer: "Every truth passes through three stages before it is recognized.
    First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is opposed. Third, it is regarded as self evident."
    Martin Niemφller:
    "When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;I was not a communist.
    When they locked up the social democrats,I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.When they came for the trade unionists,I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;I wasn't a Jew.When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out."

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    Go buy a big bottle of Fish Oil capsules at Sams or Walmart or wherever. Take 5 at night and 5 when you get up in the morning. I've done some of the "popular" depression meds and they are dangerous -period. My doctor put me on Fish Oil at a time in my life when I just wanted to be zombified. I honestly thought he was giving up on me as far as the prescription meds went. It kinda scared me but that day when I took the 5 capsules of fish oil, I honestly felt a smirk on my face a few hours later, and I could tell the "weight" was being lifted. That was about 7 years ago and I haven't seen the doctor since.

    There is no history of depression in Eskimos. My doctor told me that. He also told me the only side effect is happiness. Fish oil isn't pushed as an aid for depression simply because there is no money in it for Big Pharma.

    Now... I don't know where your "religious" beliefs lie, but I believe that if you are feeling like garbage, basically it's because the Holy Spirit wants you to feel that way -because you aren't living right. Just know it's done out of love though.

    Get on track man. Time is short. Get on your knees before your God. Praise Him for everything He has done for you. Praise Him, thank Him. Now repent to Him and mean it.
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